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by Misscruella Misscruella (Member) Member Student

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I have been failed in a nursing program. I believe I had a good reason to overturn my grade so I filed a grievance with the school and they would not overturn it. They told me that because it has been over ten weeks since I finished the class they cannot overturn my grade and that is written in their policy. I don’t want to have this F on my transcript. So if I have a good reason to get it overturned I am wondering if I am being given false information? I am thinking about suing the school but i don’t know if a judge could force the school to override their policy. The only reason why ten weeks have passed is because the grievance process took many months at the school so it is not my fault that this much time has passed. I don’t want to waste my time suing the school if it will be pointless and I will not win.

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NICU Guy has 4 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in NICU.

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If this is a nursing core class, you need a C to pass the class. If you currently have an F, what is your grievance that your grade should be changed from an F to a C?

What does their policy state about filing a grievance? Does it state "Grievances must be submitted within XXX days of the end of the semester, if so what was the time period that you submitted your grievance?

Is this your second grievance or is the same one from January?

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adamg has 1 years experience.

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What do think is a good reason for them to overturn your grade? What course is it in? Can you retake the course if you are concerned about it being on your transcript. An F on your transcript is not the worst thing I have one on my transcript from my first degree and not slowing down my second career 

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3 hours ago, NICU Guy said:

If this is a nursing core class, you need a C to pass the class. If you currently have an F, what is your grievance that your grade should be changed from an F to a C?

What does their policy state about filing a grievance? Does it state "Grievances must be submitted within XXX days of the end of the semester, if so what was the time period that you submitted your grievance?

Is this your second grievance or is the same one from January?

This is the same grievance. It is a long story about why I think I should have my grade overturned. my instructor failed me for a couple patient complaints, because I was late twice, I used my cell phone in a wrong area , all in clinical. But why I think I could get my grade overturned is because I was told I had a chance of passing the course around November, after I had been given a warning in the course, but I was told I still could pass so I did not drop out. Then at the end of the semester my instructor told me I would be passing, but apparently it was not up to her. the rest of the faculty told her that they didn’t think I should pass and would not allow me to pass. I think it was unfair to tell me that I had a chance of passing in November when I could have dropped out, could have spent my time elsewhere and applying to other colleges, if despite my efforts I was still going to be failed in the end. I don’t think I could prove that my instructor told me I had a chance of passing mid semester, but at the grievance hearing the director did admit that the instructor came to her and wanted me to pass at the end of the semester so that aligns with her statement to me of telling me I would pass. All students were under the assumption that it was up to the instructor who passed clinical because no one else was overseeing the students in clinical besides our instructor. It was only at the end of all of this that I was made aware that it is a team decision by the faculty who passes clinical. I cannot prove that we weren’t told about this team decision thing, but it is not stated in the nursing handbook that it is a team decision by faculty who passes clinical. 

 

I filed my grievance immediately after the semester ended. I was told by the vice president that it can’t be longer than ten weeks after the end of a class for a grade to be overturned, but she is totally ignoring the fact that it has only been longer than ten weeks because the grievance process took longer than ten weeks! So she stated if she were to turn my grade from a F to a W it would be overriding the schools policy which they cannot do. I think it’s not true I think they can do whatever they want they are the school but I do not know for sure. 

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3 hours ago, adamg said:

What do think is a good reason for them to overturn your grade? What course is it in? Can you retake the course if you are concerned about it being on your transcript. An F on your transcript is not the worst thing I have one on my transcript from my first degree and not slowing down my second career 

I cannot retake the course because it is a nursing course I was in the program and got kicked out. I cannot renter the program because of a clinical failure.

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On 10/9/2019 at 5:15 PM, Misscruella said:

my instructor failed me for a couple patient complaints, because I was late twice, I used my cell phone in a wrong area , all in clinical.

Are you really shocked you failed?  Being late twice by itself would fail you in a lot of programs. 

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1 hour ago, Rionoir said:

Are you really shocked you failed?  Being late twice by itself would fail you in a lot of programs. 

No I’m not but the fact is that I was told I would be passing and my instructor also explained to us that if we were going to be late to call ahead and there would be no problem. Other students were late and were passed. I would like to stay on topic though please and have my question answered...

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To answer your question, you are not going to get anywhere by suing your school because you failed.

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RNNPICU has 13 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in PICU.

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Unfortunatey you do not have a chance for overturning the decision.  Especially since you were late to clinical twice. It is likely that they were still considering passing you even with your three stated incidents: late for clinical X 2 and using your cellphone in an unapproved area.  You must have not shown any improvement in anything or llikely had other issues

You being late is a factor, but other students were probably not late a second time and used their phone in an unapproved area.  

I don't see your case here for allowing you to continue. It also sounds like there may have been other issues that you are not stating. 

You would have to have had a stellar, extraordinary clinical experience to counter your other transgressions.

I think it is probably best you start over with a new program.

 

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I really can’t believe you want your grade overturned because you were late *twice*, used your cell phone in the wrong area, and had patient complaints.

 

We get sent home from clinical if we even have our cell phones on our person, being late twice is an automatic clinical absence (and you’re only allowed one clinical absence per semester), and depending on what the patient complaints were that could easily have us booted from the program. I honestly don’t know what you’re expecting here....

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Nurse.Kelsey has 0 years experience as a RN and specializes in Pediatric Home Health (LPN).

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Listen, you get what you put into it. You cant take a nursing program lightly and think you can get away with tardiness or using your phone at your leisure. When you are in clinical you are supposed to be there prepared and ready for the day. Because in the real world that is how you have to be. 

Most programs make you go home for that stuff. Most programs fail students for that stuff. Learn your lesson and be better for the next program if you decide to continue to pursue nursing. 

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This sounds like a rehash of a similar thread from the past.  Time and effort obsessing on a Don Quixote mission would most likely be better spent on other endeavors.

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