Overheard at the nurse's station

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My office is at the opposite end of the unit, away from the nurse's station. My daily routine is to spend the mornings on the unit, rounding with doctors, helping with care, and talking to patients. I spend the afternoons in my office doing paperwork and administrative tasks. The hospital is remodeling the floor above ours, and I needed to move out of my office for a few weeks because of the noise and dirt directly above me. My office is now temporarily in a small storage area right behind the nurse's desk. Some of the staff must have forgotten I was there, because this is the conversation that took place. (Some details have been changed to protect the innocent. And HIPAA)

CNA: Can you look at the IV in 412? It keeps beeping.

RN: That's not my patient.

Me, coming out of the office: Did you just tell her that's not my patient when she asked for help?

RN: NO

CNA: Yes she did.

ME: Go take care of the IV then come into my office

So we had the talk about teamwork, respect, integrity, and putting patients first. Of course she said she was sorry, she had been distracted, this is not her normal behavior. I warned her that this was unacceptable, and I did not want to hear this type of thing again. Then about an hour later, another conversation between the same two staff.

RN: I was just in 411. She needs a bedpan. Go put her on.

CNA: OK

Me, coming out of my office: Did you just tell her to go put a patient on a bedpan when you were in the room?

RN: NO

CNA: Yes

ME: Go put her on the bedpan yourself, then come into my office.

I usually dislike writing staff up, but this girl really deserved it.

Here is the bottomline Sue. You are the boss. its your unit. All I ask on behalf of your RNS is please make sure you are staffing appropriately........

did you ask the nurse what her thought process was before you disciplined her?

Specializes in Gerontology.

If a nurse has time to leave the room, wash her hands and then go find a CNA to tell her a pt needs the bedpan, she could have put the pt on the bedpan! And then ask the CNA to take her off!

Specializes in nursing education.
Sue, do you pay your RNs overtime to stay after and finish the charting they did not get done because they were doing CNA work?

CNA work? Come on. Put the patient on the freaking bedpan already. Do your assessment while you're at it. (butt, skin, urine, stool, listen to some lung sounds) Talk to the patient. Ask about pain. Gee whiz, it's not CNA work. It's nursing work and patient care.

any of ya'll have 8 pts on a busy med surge floor?

Our staffing is excellent. RNs usually have four patients. And the CNAs do not spend their time hiding in the back room or smoking outside. I have caught this RN sitting at the desk texting, or sitting in the lounge with a magazine when she was not supposed to be on break. This is a pattern of behavior for her. My main point is that I heard it because my office is behind the nurse's station now, and she didn't even try to hide what she was doing. On second thought, why am I defending myself to a brand new RN who has no management experience and lacks the cognitive abilility to understand the situation?

Here is the bottomline Sue. You are the boss. its your unit. All I ask on behalf of your RNS is please make sure you are staffing appropriately........
Specializes in Gerontology.

I have 5 pts and provide TOTAL pt care. No CNAs, no techs. Just one PSW ( similar to a CNA) who will provide basic care to one pt. I still do EVERYTHING for the other 4 pts, plus VS, treat,ents, charting etc for the 5th. Some days, I have 6 pts. We are Rehab. Every pt gets washed dressed, up in a w/c, plus more.i would NEVER walk away from someone who needs a bedpan.

There is absolutely CNA work, LPN work and RN work. Hospitals created this monster by trying to have APs do as much patient care as possible. I could write volumes andexpound upon this for days but I think for the most part it would fall on deaf ears......

Specializes in Trauma Surgical ICU.

Oh, yes I have had 8 pts, we all have unless we went into a specialty area or a state that has mandated ratios. Busy is nursing, you will be pulled in 200 different directions at once and still expect to take care of your pts basic needs.

I am a new nurse ma'am. But I will go head to head with you cognitively any day ma'am. ANY day........

Specializes in I/DD.
any of ya'll have 8 pts on a busy med surge floor?

^ No, but I have had 7 tele patients on a busy cardiac surgical floor. I can tell you as one who has been a tech and a nurse, it is 10 times faster to put the patient on the bedpan yourself than to run around and find a tech to do it. If I am really busy then I will put the patient on the pan, give them a call bell, and give them some privacy. AFTER I leave the room I will ask the nearest tech to watch out for the call bell because I need to do XYZ. And I will ask kindly, with respect. Please oh please do not become the kind of nurse that expends more time/energy to find someone else to do work that you are perfectly qualified to do, than it would to just do it yourself.

Let me reiterate, in most situations it will SAVE you time to do this kind of work yourself than to search for someone else to do it for you. Not to mention it will improve those all-important patient satisfaction scores.

Please also be aware that when I post here I am purposeful blunt to save time. When I am on the floor I am a team player. I am going to be a great nurse and my patients will be well cared for. I will put people on bed pans and take care of code browns all day long. But my boss better not whine about the odd bit of overtime here and there.....

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