Options after failing CRNE 3 times

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I just wrote the crne for the 3rd time this Oct and I was just wondering what options do i have with my BScN if I'm not successful in passing the exam the 3rd time? What else can I do? I know I can write the NCLEX in the states, and that I can take the CPNRE exam in Canada. Any other options? Also, I've heard that some people had a 4th attempt at the exam. What kind of reason would i need in order to get a 4th attempt? Please let me know, any information would be helpful.

Doesn't happen in Alberta. Here's a link to who can write CPNRE:

http://clpna.com/BecomeanLPN/GettingStarted/tabid/67/Default.aspx

No where does it mention that Canadian educated degree holders that have failed CRNE may write it. Ontario is doing no one a favour in permitting this.

Those are the rules, you don't have to like them but rules are rules. I don't like that you only get 3 chances to pass the CRNE, i would prefer 5, but then again those are the rules.

If you guys are that upset about degree holders being able to write the CRPNE, you should write to the CNO about it.

You can bet that if the option is THERE, I'd take it. Anyone who successfully completes any school of nursing I'm sure has worked their butt off in school.

I agree, RPN or RN, both have to work very hard in school and in the hospital. We should unite and collaborate with one another. I read so many RN's bashing RPN and vise versa on this website. Chill out!

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Sorry you feel that you may have failed. My question why did you wait now to ask the question what to do? I would be wondering after the first time. I think x3 times is very reasonable, if you can not pass after the third time you have an educational issue.

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Sorry you feel that you may have failed. My question why did you wait now to ask the question what to do? I would be wondering after the first time. I think x3 times is very reasonable if you can not pass after the third time you have an educational issue.[/quote']

I don't think i failed, i actually think i passed, maybe in the %70'ish range, but I'm just getting ready for worst case scenario. Believe me, I really think i passed.

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I can understand wanting to know your options if you failed the CRNE three times. I just wrote the CRNE for the second time last week and I am very nervous about my mark. There are times in the day that I think I passed and there are other times that I think I failed. When planning for your future it is very important to know what your options are with the education that you currently have.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to take the LPN exam if you have a BSN degree. Many schools allow you to challenge the LPN exam after your second year of schooling as you have met the requirements of becoming a practical nurse. I do not understand why anyone would have a problem with this? BSN students have met the requirements through there education to become an LPN if they wish. Many students in my class wrote the LPN exam after the second year of school, so they could work as an LPN to gain experience and pay for BSN school.

Just because someone is unable to pass the CRNE it does not make them incompetent as a nurse. Taking an exam is very difficult especially in the field of nursing. THis was often a discussion in my BSN program, since nursing is not a career that you have to have one answer and unfortunately when you take an exam like the CRNE there is only one answer. I do think that the CRNE needs to evaluate the way they ensure protection to the public. Just because you pass the CRNE does not mean that you are a safe, competent nurse you can still make a mistake in your career.

These next weeks are very difficult for us as we wait for our exam marks. I would expect that previous CRNE takes would understand this and be supportive. If people are frustrated with CRNE takers who are worried about failing, then maybe they should not be reading these posts. We are looking from support from others not negative options. I hope that everyone who is currently waiting for their mark gets a pass mark and we can move on from this period in our nursing careers.

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Specializes in geriatrics.

Feel free to disagree or debate it all you like. The fact is, the CRNE tests basic competencies that you learned throughout your program. And it isn't as though they expect you to get 80 percent. The majority of people pass within the three attempts. If you aren't successful after the first attempt, the onus is on you to analyze what you need to do for the next time to pass. Instead, some of you come here with the attitude of "woe is me."

Learn to accept responsibility for your actions. That is what all nurses must do...be accountable.

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Instead, some of you come here with the attitude of "woe is me."

I dont think that most people come with this kind of attitude. I believe that they are looking for people who are experiencing the same thing that they are (or who have gone through this) and are looking for support. If this kind of thread does not have anything to do with your current situation then what is the point of posting something unsupportive? People want to look for comments from others who have gone through what they are going through and looking for answers to questions that they have.

Lets remember the profession that we are in and care for others who are looking for help and guidance not bring people down who are currently in a difficult place looking for help and answers.

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Specializes in geriatrics.

Maybe you should quote my entire post next time. When you post in a public forum, you are going to receive responses that you may not like or agree with. That's the way it is. And it's not being negative, simply because you aren't always getting the response you want. I do care about people...but not everyone is meant for nursing. You all know there is an exam at the end, so that's no surprise. Three attempts is more than fair.

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Specializes in ER, Public Health, Community, PMHNP.

To Op and all those who have failed CRN dont take these NASTY nurses on the thread that beleive 3 tries is enough and you should pack your bags and give up nursing because you failed 3X's This forum is great a wonderful resource i have spotted the TROLLS in the Canadian section and in time you will to and simply avoid them or ignore them, cause they are very nasty. Infact i suspect 1 user has 2 usernames and usually post right after the other, and they are always giving each other kudoo's etc.

I find in the NCLEX section the nurses waiting to test or have tested and failed receive SO MUCH support from their peers also waiting to test, the energy and encouragment is so different like night and day. I live in Ontario and i post and visit this Canadian section with caution to many Nasty and angry nurses on here. I pray i never get any of them @ my bedside. To all those doing CRNE for the 2nd and 3rd time best of luck to you

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To Op and all those who have failed CRN dont take these NASTY nurses on the thread that beleive 3 tries is enough and you should pack your bags and give up nursing because you failed 3X's This forum is great a wonderful resource i have spotted the TROLLS in the Canadian section and in time you will to and simply avoid them or ignore them, cause they are very nasty. Infact i suspect 1 user has 2 usernames and usually post right after the other, and they are always giving each other kudoo's etc.

I find in the NCLEX section the nurses waiting to test or have tested and failed receive SO MUCH support from their peers also waiting to test, the energy and encouragment is so different like night and day. I live in Ontario and i post and visit this Canadian section with caution to many Nasty and angry nurses on here. I pray i never get any of them @ my bedside. To all those doing CRNE for the 2nd and 3rd time best of luck to you

I think you will find in some states in the US they only allow a retake of 3 times and then the person has to do some form of review or reassessment. In the UK you only have 3 attempts and Canada has done 3 attempts for many years.

So tell me why should it change when someone fails the third or even fourth time? There has to be a limit. If the person has trained in Canada then I am sure their nurse training will have assisted them in how the Canadian exam is done. It is harder if an IEN but can be done with proper study. I am a IEN and passed first time as did several other people I know.

If you think there are people with duplicate accounts then I suggest you report them and let the staff investigate. Just because people give each other kudos doesn't mean they are the same person.

We do support people but we also expect people to do their own research especailly when CRNE is only held 3 times a year opposed to the NCLEX which is held every day, which means there are many threads discussing the very same question they are asking.

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Specializes in ER, Public Health, Community, PMHNP.
I think you will find in some states in the US they only allow a retake of 3 times and then the person has to do some form of review or reassessment. In the UK you only have 3 attempts and Canada has done 3 attempts for many years.

So tell me why should it change when someone fails the third or even fourth time? There has to be a limit. If the person has trained in Canada then I am sure their nurse training will have assisted them in how the Canadian exam is done. It is harder if an IEN but can be done with proper study. I am a IEN and passed first time as did several other people I know.

If you think there are people with duplicate accounts then I suggest you report them and let the staff investigate. Just because people give each other kudos doesn't mean they are the same person.

We do support people but we also expect people to do their own research especailly when CRNE is only held 3 times a year opposed to the NCLEX which is held every day, which means there are many threads discussing the very same question they are asking.

1.) I never said that it should be changed from 3 tries, i said int he States their are individuals who take it more than 3 times and the members in the NCLEX forum side are more supportive.

2.) In regards to the multiple accounts i will report it and give examples of the threads where i see the pattern emerge

IMO the atmosphere in the Canadian section vs USA section is different the ladies in the USA section have a sense of togetherness they view the individual embodying the human spirit and the person's commitment to nursing and ultimately the acheivment of finishing nursing school. In the Canadian section you are judged by your sole ability to pass CRNE only. No one cares about the 4 yeas you commited to get your degree.

Im not gonna moan any further because pretty much everyone here has a 1 track mind.

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Specializes in geriatrics.

Please...give me a break! I suppose you view the nurses at the CNA mean and nasty since they are the ones who set the guidelines for the CRNE. If you can't pass within 3 attempts, then more education is required. Its a basic exam. Working is much harder....I guarantee it.

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Specializes in ER, Public Health, Community, PMHNP.
Please...give me a break! I suppose you view the nurses at the CNA mean and nasty since they are the ones who set the guidelines for the CRNE. If you can't pass within 3 attempts, then more education is required. Its a basic exam. Working is much harder....I guarantee it.

Yeah ill give you a break indeed. I dont view the CNA nurses as nasty! I think the nurses on the Canadian side of the forum are nasty and i'm calling it as i see it. In my first semester of nursing we did a course titled " compasionate ways of caring" @ first glance you would think that its a joke, one may ask why are they teaching us how to care? Personally i thought the course was not so important but i later learnt of its foundational importance in nursing, in relation to direct patient care and interaction with our fellow nurses. In this form my biggest problem with some posters is their inability or short vision when it relates to nurses who fail 3 times, these posters seem to enjoy kicking someone when their down and i dont think this is a good quality for a nurse. Like another one of my teachers said "nurses eat their young" and that is so obvious on this side of the forum. For the record i have not failed my CRNE 3X but i really do emphasize and im very sympathetic to those that have not been able to achieve a pass on the CRNE after 3 tries, i guess that is what makes me different from some of the usual posters.

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