Ontario Second Entry Nursing Fall 2021

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Hey everyone!

I haven't seen a post for Fall 2021 yet so here it is!

My choices are:

1. UofT

2. McMaster

3. Nipissing SPP

I started my OUAC application in November and now trying to work on the supplemental packages. My CASPer Test is on January 12, 2021.

I need to take Anatomy and Physio course(s) however, I'm having a hard time figuring out what would satisfy the requirements from all three universities. My options so far are:

1. Take CBLG 101 in Winter and CBLG 111 in Spring at Ryerson. However final grade will be in June; hoping that's fine.  This satisfies all 3 unis

2. Take SCS 2159 in Winter from UofT which is enough for UofT and McMaster but not for Nipissing. I have to take an Anatomy course just for Nip.

I have a Bachelor's Degree in Early Childhood Education from back home, been working as an RECE in Toronto the last 8 years, have a Diploma in Nonprofit Management at Ryerson. My cGPA is 3.55 which I'm worried about. Lots of extra curricular activities from university and volunteering here in Toronto.  I still have to compute the GPA for the last two years.

I requested WES to send my transcripts to Nip and McMaster and asked my old uni to send to UofT.

It's been an expensive application so far; really hoping I get in! Looking forward to chatting with you all and sharing our experiences.

3 hours ago, Eka said:

Hey! When does your offer expire? Just wanted to get a feel for next round for waitlist

Not sure if you’re asking about Queen’s or York, but for York the offer expires June 8th. For Queen’s the offer expired on May 21 (so I’ve already accepted it). Hopefully this helps! 

Just now, jupitersea said:

Not sure if you’re asking about Queen’s or York, but for York the offer expires June 8th. For Queen’s the offer expired on May 21 (so I’ve already accepted it). Hopefully this helps! 

Thank you!!

Hey! Does anyone else’s u of t application still say “application received”?? It hasn’t gone to “under review” yet and I’m wondering why? 

2 hours ago, Bronwyn said:

Hey! Does anyone else’s u of t application still say “application received”?? It hasn’t gone to “under review” yet and I’m wondering why? 

Mine never went to under review, it went from "application received" to "admitted" 

10 hours ago, NursingA2Z said:

Hi, 

Does anyone know if UofT sends out their rejections earlier than June 30th or is it all at one time (ie. The last day to hear back). As well does anyone know of them having a wait-list? 

If anyone has any insights, please let me know :).

Thanks,

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I'm wondering the same thing! Any insight would be super!! :) 

8 hours ago, stressedgirl57 said:

Hi guys! I have a question. Do nursing jobs always require references from previous employers? 

Yes

9 hours ago, nursehopeful1 said:

Wow! Thank you so much for this insight! I hadn't really considered the possibility of strikes, so this is good to know. I also would have a long commute to York - but I just figure that I may not have to go on campus everyday due to online learning. I guess we really don't know at this point. I really like how Nipissing has a lot more placement hours but I think I am just mostly worried about the lack of structured classes. I did my undergrad at UofT so maybe I am just used to a lot of science-based courses so I am trying to figure out if Nipissing's learning style suits me.

I think the same way. We don't know it will be in person or blended class. I think in nursing you must have a good theory. If you know your theory you can handle a lot of unpredictable situation. What I heard York ' s placement is not bad. Nipissing learning style I don't know I am confused. It is my personal preference..

8 hours ago, nursinggrad23 said:

I'm wondering the same thing! Any insight would be super!! ?

Hello! I hope I can shed some light on this from my own experience. Last year I was on the UofT waitlist. I did eventually get offered a spot but had to decline for personal reasons.

In terms of when they send everything out, I found out last year (and I’m pretty sure even those rejected did) a few days before the end of June that I was waitlisted. By June 30th however they have to send you either an acceptance, a waitlist offer or a rejection.

If they offered you a place on the waitlist and you accept it, they send a follow up email 1-2 weeks later letting you know what waitlist group you are in. This way you have an idea of where you are on the list and how likely it is you will be admitted. Last year it was “Top 10,” “Group 2,” and “Group 3.” I was in the “top 10” group and I believe last year they were able to offer a place to everyone in that group and a few from “group 2.”

They will also have you start the on boarding process for clinicals if you are on the waitlist (I.e. vaccination records, police check, mask fit test, etc.). Since you could be admitted up until the program starts in September they need to make sure you all your documents are ready to go. 

I hope this helps!! 

17 hours ago, nursehopeful1 said:

Wow! Thank you so much for this insight! I hadn't really considered the possibility of strikes, so this is good to know. I also would have a long commute to York - but I just figure that I may not have to go on campus everyday due to online learning. I guess we really don't know at this point. I really like how Nipissing has a lot more placement hours but I think I am just mostly worried about the lack of structured classes. I did my undergrad at UofT so maybe I am just used to a lot of science-based courses so I am trying to figure out if Nipissing's learning style suits me.

I completely understand your concern regarding the lack of structured classes. This is was the main reason I was considering to not attend the SPP at first. However, the more I spoke to this current SPP student, she made it clear that it was more blended. Of course, you still have to be a self-driven learner nonetheless. I did my undergrad at York and so it's going to be quite a shift in learning styles. However, the student sent me her outlines and it's all quite clear. The class schedule details which classes you have each day and for how long as well as the learning outcomes and what you are expected to learn on your own. 

Definitely out of my comfort zone but I welcome the experience ?

8 hours ago, mus said:

I think the same way. We don't know it will be in person or blended class. I think in nursing you must have a good theory. If you know your theory you can handle a lot of unpredictable situation. What I heard York ' s placement is not bad. Nipissing learning style I don't know I am confused. It is my personal preference..

Theory will still be there in my opinion, it's just up to you to learn it on your own time and consult your preceptor with any questions you may have. Absolutely right, it boils down to personal preference ?

10 minutes ago, NurseJosieD said:

I completely understand your concern regarding the lack of structured classes. This is was the main reason I was considering to not attend the SPP at first. However, the more I spoke to this current SPP student, she made it clear that it was more blended. Of course, you still have to be a self-driven learner nonetheless. I did my undergrad at York and so it's going to be quite a shift in learning styles. However, the student sent me her outlines and it's all quite clear. The class schedule details which classes you have each day and for how long as well as the learning outcomes and what you are expected to learn on your own. 

Definitely out of my comfort zone but I welcome the experience ?

Theory will still be there in my opinion, it's just up to you to learn it on your own time and consult your preceptor with any questions you may have. Absolutely right, it boils down to personal preference ?

yeah it is definitely a very unique program and not something I am used to. I agree, I think in any nursing program you need to be very self-disciplined! Do you think you could explain a bit more about the classes that need to be taken each day? Are these classes that you take with the other students in the course or is it more so done in the placement with the 1:1 preceptor? I am also just wondering when or if we would learn content such as chronic illnesses, pharmacology, pathophysiology, etc. 

5 minutes ago, nursehopeful1 said:

yeah it is definitely a very unique program and not something I am used to. I agree, I think in any nursing program you need to be very self-disciplined! Do you think you could explain a bit more about the classes that need to be taken each day? Are these classes that you take with the other students in the course or is it more so done in the placement with the 1:1 preceptor? I am also just wondering when or if we would learn content such as chronic illnesses, pharmacology, pathophysiology, etc. 

So from what was told to me, the classes taken are not based on academic knowledge, they are philosophical conversations on the topic of nursing rather than theoretical concepts that are tested. 
When it comes to theoretical concepts, there is an outline of what students should know, but nobody checks-in with students e.g. “how did that go” so it’s really the students responsibility for that matter to raise any questions or concerns with their preceptors. 

The theoretical nursing practical concepts you learn on your own (through textbooks that are passed down to the first years

Lectures  revolve around the theme of the term e.g. mental health etc. 

Students are given Independent study days  where you have the day to work on assignments/ study theoretical concepts and there's the online virtual simulator where you have to treat patients within 30 minutes. 

Every semester, they have a learning plan assignment where students have to present a plan with an overall objective with 3 underlying goals that will lead you to the overall objective — this is to show instructors what students have learned and what their goal for that term is. Usually students will connect this to their practicum and so e.g. “My overall goal is to understand the role and responsibilities of an internal medicine nurse” and then you would have 3 objectives that when taken all together will fulfill your overarching goal. This happens every semester.

In placement, they have small group discussions facilitated by one of the instructors and they talk about their experiences in practicum.

They (faculty) treat you like colleagues — it’s not really the professors passing information down to the students, but more so creating knowledge together and sharing of knowledge too.

 

If I am not mistaken, that content is learned on your own. That's the self directed part which I am nervous for. However, Since it's a very tight-knit community, 2nd year students are always willing to help guide first years.

5 minutes ago, NurseJosieD said:

So from what was told to me, the classes taken are not based on academic knowledge, they are philosophical conversations on the topic of nursing rather than theoretical concepts that are tested. 
When it comes to theoretical concepts, there is an outline of what students should know, but nobody checks-in with students e.g. “how did that go” so it’s really the students responsibility for that matter to raise any questions or concerns with their preceptors. 

The theoretical nursing practical concepts you learn on your own (through textbooks that are passed down to the first years

Lectures  revolve around the theme of the term e.g. mental health etc. 

Students are given Independent study days  where you have the day to work on assignments/ study theoretical concepts and there's the online virtual simulator where you have to treat patients within 30 minutes. 

Every semester, they have a learning plan assignment where students have to present a plan with an overall objective with 3 underlying goals that will lead you to the overall objective — this is to show instructors what students have learned and what their goal for that term is. Usually students will connect this to their practicum and so e.g. “My overall goal is to understand the role and responsibilities of an internal medicine nurse” and then you would have 3 objectives that when taken all together will fulfill your overarching goal. This happens every semester.

In placement, they have small group discussions facilitated by one of the instructors and they talk about their experiences in practicum.

They (faculty) treat you like colleagues — it’s not really the professors passing information down to the students, but more so creating knowledge together and sharing of knowledge too.

 

If I am not mistaken, that content is learned on your own. That's the self directed part which I am nervous for. However, Since it's a very tight-knit community, 2nd year students are always willing to help guide first years.

Wow, this has cleared a lot of things up for me. This makes sense, thank you so much for sharing this I really appreciate it! Best of luck for you !

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