Published Jun 5, 2014
smartnurse1982
1,775 Posts
Does anyone think that online Rn to Bsn programs might be considered inferior by nurse recruiters?
I know it should not be that way.
I am hearing horror stories of grads of other professions who have degrees obtained online but can not find jobs.
Lots of recruiters of other professions even admit to it.
I think many people have this perception that online schools are not as vigorous as brick and mortar schools.
Of course,there is so much variety of online schools.
Non profit,schools that are regionally accredited but have no brick and mortar campus(WGU)
For profit schools that are regionally accredited(Chamberlain) with a brick and mortar campus.
Some are non profit with a brick and mortar campus but not accredited(my old Adn school just started an Rn to Bsn program but it is not accredited yet. The Adn was Acen accredited since the late 60's). If i start there in Sept i would be in the 1st Rn to Bsn class to graduate from the school.
Wgu is giving me a vibe of "We accept anyone",
WHy? I know for a FACT i failed the entrance exam,but the recruiter said i passed.
applesxoranges, BSN, RN
2,242 Posts
There are reports of people viewing them as inferior but I think it also depends on your area. I know a lot of nurse managers push people to go to Ohio University in my area due to partnerships with the hospitals and schools. One manager I interviewed with mentioned that she sent a lot of nurses that way.
I think if the school is well-known and seen frequently in your area, it may help it. Like I live in Ohio and I am going to Ohio University. Will the Ohio University name mean as much if I went somewhere, say California? Probably not. Also, I assume that all resumes go through HR first which seems to be the case for my area. If the HR person doesn't recognize the name, will it matter as much?
Also, I assume that all resumes go through HR first which seems to be the case for my area. If the HR person doesn't recognize the name, will it matter as much?
That is what i am thinking.
Western Govenors University is a fairly new program.
ProgressiveActivist, BSN, RN
670 Posts
There was a big push for the bsn and many of the associates degree nurses were doing the WGU program.
They did some kind of testing and were given credit for chem bio micro statistics by a sales rep. These
individuals could have never passed the courses in a real
university.
They bought their papers from some website and graduated in under a year. What a joke. A WGU degree means cheap and easy.
klone, MSN, RN
14,856 Posts
They did some kind of testing and were given credit for chem bio micro statistics by a sales rep.
I have no idea what this means. You don't just "do some kind of testing and are given credit" - I can tell you that for both chemistry and microbiology, there are classes with several tasks each that are required to complete, and the tasks are fairly rigorous. I struggled with a few of the microbiology tasks, and I'm quite intelligent.
They bought their papers from some website and graduated in under a year.
If your coworkers did that, that's the fault of your coworkers, NOT the school. I know of professional "paperwriters" who write masters theses and doctoral dissertations for people who have graduated from all different types of colleges, including Ivy League universities. That doesn't mean that these Ivy League universities are cheap and easy - it means that there are always going to be people out there looking to cheat the system.
Read the recent thread. One poster stated she finished the bio chem class in under a week by completing the five rubrics.
This program is not educationally sound. I personally know a nurse who struggles with basic math due to a learning disability who was given college credit for algebra and statistics by WGU. She told me it's not a real school they will do anything to get you to enroll.
featherzRN, MSN
1,012 Posts
Read the recent thread. One poster stated she finished the bio chem class in under a week by completing the five rubrics.This program is not educationally sound. I personally know a nurse who struggles with basic math due to a learning disability who was given college credit for algebra and statistics by WGU. She told me it's not a real school they will do anything to get you to enroll.
Doubtful. WGU will not give credit for statistics unless you present a transcript stating you have taken an equivalent stats class within the last five years. And people HAVE failed the entrance exam before, I've talked with them personally. Algebra I believe is waived if you have an associates degree, but I won't speak to that as I was a math major so mine was already waived.
As for biochem, I am probably the one who completed it in five days - and I worked very hard on it, probably eight hours per day. WGU measures competence, not seat time. Many people work for months on the exact same class, but as this was a retake for me I was able to complete it quickly.
I also took micro at WGU and it is a full lab with lab reports that must be completed, along with a competence exam taken with a proctor.
HA,seems great to me.
I do not have to try hard...but that is the problem.
Soon word will get out(it actually has btw hence the reason for this thread) that WGU is an easy program,and soon into the garbage the resume goes by recruiters who wont take it seriously.
Kind of a repeat of Phoenix University
I have voted against hiring a person with a degree from a known quick and cheap diy online school. The job will always go to the person who attended a well regarded school of nursing.
I do feel that people who invest time and money in these online schools are going to wish that they hadn't taken that route to a bsn.
I have voted against hiring a person with a degree from a known quick and cheap diy online school. The job will always go to the person who attended a well regarded school of nursing. I do feel that people who invest time and money in these online schools are going to wish that they hadn't taken that route to a bsn.
A Bsn is a Bsn correct?
ARe you a nurse recruiter?
No. All BSN programs are not the same. There are actually some that have clinical hours and real live clinical instructors.
I am an ICU nurse and I stupidly agreed to be on the hiring committee.
Can you show me an RN-BSN program that actually has clinical hours and clinical instructors/preceptors? I'm honestly curious.