Obamacare? what are your thoughts

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Hello ladies!

As healthcare professionals, what are your opinions on Obamacare?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

Oh the irony of being called a lemming by someone who has nothing to offer but baseless vitriol and mock outrage over a law designed by conservatives and intended to increase citizen participation in the health insurance free market.

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.

I'm not a lady, but I don't think it's the place of the United States government to regulate insurance. That seems more of a states rights issue. To add, I think the whole thing is a botched, ridiculous, monstrosity of policy that needs to be banished and quickly forgotten about.

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Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
Did you look at the charts? They reference the AP for their info by the way. Or do you just want to keep being one of Obama's sheep? Or should I say lemmings?

​Well, I didn't vote for him, so I am neither one of his sheep/lemmings. Guess you'll have to find another way to insult me.

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Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.

What would you replace it with?

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
I'm not a lady, but I don't think it's the place of the United States government to regulate insurance. That seems more of a states rights issue. To add, I think the whole thing is a botched, ridiculous, monstrosity of policy that needs to be banished and quickly forgotten about.

Well, the House of Representatives under Republican leadership has attempted to banish this law some 50 times. To date they have been unsuccessful and they don't have a viable replacement option to offer.

What are the basic goals of the Federal Government as outlined in the preamble to the constitution?

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
Well, the House of Representatives under Republican leadership has attempted to banish this law some 50 times. To date they have been unsuccessful and they don't have a viable replacement option to offer.

What are the basic goals of the Federal Government as outlined in the preamble to the constitution?

Why do we need a replacement? Health insurance is not a basic human right.

Preamble? Are you suggesting that would fall under "promote the general welfare?" I disagree entirely and place it under the tenth amendment.

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
What would you replace it with?

Nothing.

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What are the basic goals of the Federal Government as outlined in the preamble to the constitution?

You mean this?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I think the key word is GENERAL. If the founders thought we should provide health care to our citizens why didn't they establish programs for the government to pay the physicians of the day? I don't think healthcare is what they had in mind.

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If the founders thought we should provide health care to our citizens why didn't they establish programs for the government to pay the physicians of the day?

If the founders thought we should have slaves then why did we get rid of slavery? If the founders thought women shouldn't vote then why did we expand voting laws? If the founders thought horse and buggies worked fine then why should we have any traffic laws or regulations?

Seriously. Society changes; the country needs to change with it. The world of today is not the world of 1776, and we MUST adapt to what is needed today. There's no going back, so deal with what the issues are today.

And it is truly disturbing to find people who work in healthcare that think providing better access to healthcare is NOT a part of "general welfare."

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If the founders thought we should have slaves then why did we get rid of slavery? If the founders thought women shouldn't vote then why did we expand voting laws? If the founders thought horse and buggies worked fine then why should we have any traffic laws or regulations?

Seriously. Society changes; the country needs to change with it. The world of today is not the world of 1776, and we MUST adapt to what is needed today. There's no going back, so deal with what the issues are today.

And it is truly disturbing to find people who work in healthcare that think providing better access to healthcare is NOT a part of "general welfare."

Actually a lot of the founders did want to abolish slavery but creating a stable and united country was more important at the time. In any case, you are missing the point. The point is that the founders did not mean for that phrase to mean healthcare, or more precisely government funded/subsidized health insurance.

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Actually a lot of the founders did want to abolish slavery but creating a stable and united country was more important at the time. In any case, you are missing the point. The point is that the founders did not mean for that phrase to mean healthcare, or more precisely government funded/subsidized health insurance.

I'm not missing your point, I'm disagreeing with it.

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Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.
Nothing.

So you have no alternative for the 8 million Americans who would lose their health coverage if Obamacare is overturned?

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