Am I the only one who finds this disrespectful? - page 9

Right now there are two threads (one which was closed) devoted to "things you should know before coming into our department" and the tone of the thread is thinly-veiled contempt at ignorant,... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from klone
    My husband (also an RN) and I have talked about joining the Peace Corps after the kids are grown and moved out.
    I went on a 2 1/2 week medical mission to Vietnam this last summer. It is doable. Next year though I'm taking my kids - I missed them, especially the 5 year old.

    The link to our website is in my sig line . . . .

    steph
  2. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I remember, Steph. And I envied you that experience. What a wonderful thing you did.

    Kristina, I thank you for your concerns in this thread. I agree, we have to balance being professional and compassionate with being our human selves, which includes the occasional vent. I feel we are "ok" as long as the vents don't turn to flames and/or attacks on others.
  3. by   slou!
    Quote from klone
    My husband (also an RN) and I have talked about joining the Peace Corps after the kids are grown and moved out.
    This is my ultimate goal and one of the main reasons I want to go into Nursing. I REALLY want to do this, and if everything goes how I plan, after I graduate, I WILL do this! I actually made a thread about this about last week!
    https://allnurses.com/forums/f8/peac...ng-186614.html
    I actually just learned about Doctors Without Borders, from that thread, and am looking into that also. You need experience though, so I would actually have to work before going to away, and with PC you go right after you graduate. Maybe I will do both, I don't know! But definitely SOMETHING like this. I have a passion for helping other people in need
  4. by   klone
    Quote from slou!
    This is my ultimate goal and one of the main reasons I want to go into Nursing. I REALLY want to do this, and if everything goes how I plan, after I graduate, I WILL do this! I actually made a thread about this about last week!
    https://allnurses.com/forums/f8/peac...ng-186614.html
    I actually just learned about Doctors Without Borders, from that thread, and am looking into that also. You need experience though, so I would actually have to work before going to away, and with PC you go right after you graduate. Maybe I will do both, I don't know! But definitely SOMETHING like this. I have a passion for helping other people in need
    Good for you! I hope you pursue your dreams! My sister joined the Peace Corps in 1993 after graduation from college (she was an ESL teacher in Gabon, West Africa) and spent 4 years there. I visited her there for three weeks. I know it was a wonderful experience for her, and I think it's a very noble calling.
  5. by   SillyLilly
    When I worked at a Blockbuster, I would frequent the forum " I hate Blockbuster Customers".

    How much more blunt can that get?
  6. by   firstyearstudent
    As an outsider, I am getting mixed messages from the nurses here. On one hand, I hear people demanding respect for a challenging and technical profession and being offended when they are called waitresses (even in jest). On the other hand I see them comparing their situation to that of workers at Blockbuster. Perhaps I'm just not aware of a similar forum for doctors, but I suspect that they would find it somehow unprofessional or unseemly to publicly trash their patients (although I am certain they do so in private).
  7. by   jonear2
    As an outsider, I am getting mixed messages from the nurses here. On one hand, I hear people demanding respect for a challenging and technical profession and being offended when they are called waitresses (even in jest). On the other hand I see them comparing their situation to that of workers at Blockbuster. Perhaps I'm just not aware of a similar forum for doctors, but I suspect that they would find it somehow unprofessional or unseemly to publicly trash their patients (although I am certain they do so in private).

    All jobs and professions are fairly similar in this respect. Its almost an "us against them" mentality. Yes the patients are there because they need help and we are the providers of that help, but we cant always feel loving and giving. People who work at blockbuster complain about their customers because they deal with those customers every day. Nurses complain about their patients because we seal with them every day. I dont think you should hold MDs up to such a higher standard of professionalism than nurses. Perhaps we just havent found the venting site for physicians yet. I appreciate the answers to my previous question about where to draw the line. I was quite surprised at the answers and found them very helpful.
  8. by   SmilingBluEyes
    There is a very large and well-known site where physicians talk, exchange information and yes, vent, and believe me, they are no more "professional" when they kvetch than we are. They are just as human, get just as frustrated and disgusted and burnt-out as well as somewhat jaded, as anyone else.

    Let's please not condemn everyone here for venting----and remember, if the thread is offensive, you always have the option of abstaining.
  9. by   33-weeker
    Quote from rn/writer
    What I've noticed about venting is that it is often the byproduct of nurses who feel trapped in some way. We are continually faced with patients and situations we feel helpless to manage effectively.

    The homeless mentally ill whose distorted thinking and treatment resistance is now viewed, through the lens of political correctness, as their choice to be "free."

    The babies with mothers' whose dysfunctional thinking/behavior have us cringing at the thought of sending them out the door to who-knows-what.

    The ED patients who present with all kinds of challenges, not to mention entourages of family and friends who act as if their loved one is the only patient who really matters.

    Folks with dementia for whom there are no easy answers.

    Customer service approaches that feed right into obnoxious behavior and outrageous demands.

    Management that is either passive or aggressive or both, the kind that leaves nurses hanging in the wind, or worse, taking cover under desks.

    Short staffing. Unreasonable expectations. Toxic co-workers.

    And I've barely made a dent.

    Venting is sometimes all that stands between quitting in frustration and disgust and being able to go back in the next day.
    :yeahthat:
  10. by   rn/writer
    Quote from firstyearstudent
    As an outsider, I am getting mixed messages from the nurses here. On one hand, I hear people demanding respect for a challenging and technical profession and being offended when they are called waitresses (even in jest). On the other hand I see them comparing their situation to that of workers at Blockbuster. Perhaps I'm just not aware of a similar forum for doctors, but I suspect that they would find it somehow unprofessional or unseemly to publicly trash their patients (although I am certain they do so in private).
    I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a profession that doesn't have its gripes, even though we may not see their expression of it. Often, the carping is done via group or serial email and is quite popular. One of my daughters is a teacher, and, believe me, educators have the same kind of pet peeves that nurses do. So do EMS personnel, cops, lawyers, retailers, and anyone else who deals with the public.

    We get weary of patients, patrons, customers, clients, parents, and the rest who don't follow instructions, don't believe rules apply to them, don't do their part and expect us to make up the shortfall, don't think we'll catch the fact that they're trying to put one over on us and all the rest.

    I can deal with someone who is uneducated but basically has a good heart. I'll gladly go the extra mile for a patient who needs help and has the common (or maybe I should say uncommon) decency to treat me like a human being instead of a balky appliance or a vending maching.

    The ones who seem to invite venting are those who have a ready list of demands but require little of themselves. My teacher daughter gets irritated with parents who complain about their children's grades but consistently ignore the recommendations and requirements that they and their kids are supposed to fulfill.

    The fact the nurses and Blockbuster employees both vent is no commentary whatsoever on professionalism. It only means that at times they both deal with difficult people.
  11. by   dawngloves
    :yeahthat:
    If you're a PITA you are a PITA and I am going to complain about you to my peers because I am not here to suck up your stuff.
    I don't see your W2 form or your insurance card so it is not a prejudice against your socio economic status. I do however know how much things cost and when I see these things on your person and you ask me for a bottle of Purell, I am going to roll my eyes.
    And on the other hand, I will give you cans of formula if I know you have 4 other kids at home and they are wearing clothes that are ill fitting.
    And yeah, when I was a waitress I complained about customers taking the rolls home in their purse!Was that unethical?
    Last edit by rn/writer on Nov 2, '06
  12. by   33-weeker
    Quote from dawngloves
    And yeah, when I was a waitress I complained about customers taking the rolls home in their purse!Was that unethical?
    You can't re-serve them to another customer, so what's the issue?
  13. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from firstyearstudent
    as an outsider, i am getting mixed messages from the nurses here. on one hand, i hear people demanding respect for a challenging and technical profession and being offended when they are called waitresses (even in jest). on the other hand i see them comparing their situation to that of workers at blockbuster. perhaps i'm just not aware of a similar forum for doctors, but i suspect that they would find it somehow unprofessional or unseemly to publicly trash their patients (although i am certain they do so in private).
    [font="comic sans ms"]no one is comparing our situation to that of workers at blockbuster. what we are saying, though, is that every job that deals with the public has it's "moments" and venting is not unique to nursing. teachers do it, insurance brokers do it, trust fund managers do it, cops do it, and blockbuster workers do it.

    there are similar forums for doctors, and yes, they vent about their patients. and nurses. and nps and crnas and everyone else.

    this forum is for nurses, and we're venting on our forum, not on cnn and not in the monthly newsletter that every hospital around here sends to every homeowner.

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