NVC now moving?

fruity · Feb 5, 2008

This is good news if its true... Let's just hope for the best. Keep us updated!

suzanne4, RN · Feb 5, 2008

Do not make any plans with this news. What is happening to someone from the year before does not have any bearing on your petitions.

And a bigger question is why in the world with a PD date that old, are neither one of you already in the US? It means that there were problems of some type with your petition or documents from the beginning.

agp_ph · Feb 6, 2008

heard from a friend who's PD is july 04 that she recently got good news from NVC - her case is now eligible for further processing.. isn't that great? finally, nvc is moving... (despite the fact that VB cut-off is nov02)...:cheers: my PD is Oct 05.. does that mean, i can hope that my papers will soon move too?

Hi HUG_ME, where did your friend get the message from NVC? did she/he email NVC recently?

agp_ph · Feb 16, 2008

Hi Hug_me. update us on your friend's case. Was she asked to submitted another updated DS230? I called NVC automated response last night and it says there that for the month of February they are processing applications with PD of Jan 1, 2005. Really weird isn't it? If we base on the VB, the automated response should say that for the month of Feb, they are processing applications with PD of Nov 2002(base on Feb VB). I guess they are not waiting for March to start processing cases beyond 2002. If this is true, then this is good news.

I was just wondering if your friend got correspondence already like sending another DS230 for the 3rd time to NVC.

suzanne4, RN · Feb 16, 2008

The dates that are in the bulletin are not written in stone and never have been. The dates listed actually are only for the month that they are posted to start in. And if you have a look again at the March Visa Bulletin is states at the very top that these are the dates that they had in process when the booklet had to be ready for print and posting, and that they expected them to regress quite shortly. And the date that they were going by was around February 7th.

Do not expect dates to push forward, but to go backwards when those that filed the I-485 this summer get added to the mix, and it states that right in that Bulletin.

Until your attorney receives anything from immigration, do not assume anything. It is going to be a long process.

HUG_ME · Feb 18, 2008

Do not make any plans with this news. What is happening to someone from the year before does not have any bearing on your petitions.
And a bigger question is why in the world with a PD date that old, are neither one of you already in the US? It means that there were problems of some type with your petition or documents from the beginning.

well, you could simply ask those with 2002 PD? why in the world, are they soooo left behind??? ours, we're just talking few years, right? ... and you are certainly correct, there have been a number of problems in processing our petition - paper works, technical delays.. etc.. etc..

i totally agree with you suzanne - never ever make any final plans - YET - but what i am saying is that NVC is MOVING>>> true enough, march VB has moved from 2002 to 2005...

let's just wait and see...

Silverdragon102, BSN · Feb 18, 2008

well, you could simply ask those with 2002 PD? why in the world, are they soooo left behind??? ours, we're just talking few years, right? ... and you are certainly correct, there have been a number of problems in processing our petition - paper works, technical delays.. etc.. etc..
i totally agree with you suzanne - never ever make any final plans - YET - but what i am saying is that NVC is MOVING>>> true enough, march VB has moved from 2002 to 2005...
let's just wait and see...

With EB3 people with a PD of 2002 are not nurses but people already in the US on other visas The only reason a nurse would have a PD of that date would be if something was wrong with their application and even then should have been resonabley resolved.

Although March VB has moved forward a huge timeframe there is nothing stopping it moving backwards again as it has done in the past and things will only start moving on the 1st March

agp_ph · Feb 18, 2008

the dates that are in the bulletin are not written in stone and never have been. the dates listed actually are only for the month that they are posted to start in. and if you have a look again at the march visa bulletin is states at the very top that these are the dates that they had in process when the booklet had to be ready for print and posting, and that they expected them to regress quite shortly. and the date that they were going by was around february 7th.
do not expect dates to push forward, but to go backwards when those that filed the i-485 this summer get added to the mix, and it states that right in that bulletin.
until your attorney receives anything from immigration, do not assume anything. it is going to be a long process.

hi suzanne, just want to ask if you have any idea if there are still a lot of people with pd of 2002 to 2004 from the philippines. i know in india there are still a lot with pd of 2002 based on the posts in immigration voice. what about for the philippines? since most of us here are from the philippines, we would really like to know specifically for the philippines. there might be a possibility that there are only a few people left that is why the movement for philippines if fast in the march vb compared to india, mexico and china. since you keep saying there are still a lot of people with old pd, i was just wondering from where you got this info? i've been trying to search the net for info on forums regarding aos of people from the philippines with old pd but have not found anything.

plus there is also a possibility of spill-over of unused visas from eb1 and eb2 philippines to eb3 since eb1 and eb2 have been current for the past months.

as stated in the vb:

employment-based preferences

first: priority workers: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required for fourth and fifth preferences.

second: members of the professions holding advanced degrees or persons of exceptional ability: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required by first preference.

third: skilled workers, professionals, and other workers: 28.6% of the worldwide level, plus any numbers not required by first and second preferences, not more than 10,000 of which to "other workers".

suzanne4, RN · Feb 18, 2008

There are many that have been waiting for what ever reason, but the thing that many of you are failing to read is that the opening sentences in the March Bulletin state that they expect dates to retrogress again fairly quickly as soon as those that had the I-485 petitions this summer get added into the numbers.

There are also so many that have filed in the past two years from the Philippines, that even if they get to those dates, the chances of one getting a visa out of the less than 10,000 per year and including dependents, is going to be quite small.

It is not just those with the AOS, but the number that are applying in the last couple of years and the fact that the Bulletin states that they expect things to retrogress again. When you add in those with the AOS, it drives the dates back again and this is what many are failing to understand.

When you see a newbie post here bragging that they went to the US on a tourist visa and got thru on the AOS this past summer, instead of all of you congratulating them for doing something that was actually illegal, you should be upset as they will be delaying all of you from getting your visa, they have taken cuts in line in front of you.

You are focusing on dates in the past, that is not the issue with the Philippines, but the shear number of those that have applied for the green card. It far exceeds the number of visas per year. If you figure on just under 10,000 per year, and with dependents coming from that number, you are looking at only about 2500 at the most getting visas for themselves and their dependents, so not many when you look at how many are waiting.

suzanne4, RN · Feb 18, 2008

For those that are in other fields, there was not period where they could submit for the AOS for sometime, and that is why they have PD dates from so long ago. Not necessarily that there was anything wrong with their petition when they were here under the H1-B in a profession/job that permits it in the first place.

For those that have been waiting with PD dates of 2005, it means that there were issues with your documents and/or petitions in the first place and chances were that they were denied and then resubmitted. And there are quite a few with PD dates of that long ago. But still do not get any hopes up until you actually get notified that there is a visa for you.

lawrence01 · Feb 19, 2008

hi suzanne, just want to ask if you have any idea if there are still a lot of people with pd of 2002 to 2004 from the philippines. i know in india there are still a lot with pd of 2002 based on the posts in immigration voice. what about for the philippines? since most of us here are from the philippines, we would really like to know specifically for the philippines. there might be a possibility that there are only a few people left that is why the movement for philippines if fast in the march vb compared to india, mexico and china. since you keep saying there are still a lot of people with old pd, i was just wondering from where you got this info? i've been trying to search the net for info on forums regarding aos of people from the philippines with old pd but have not found anything.
plus there is also a possibility of spill-over of unused visas from eb1 and eb2 philippines to eb3 since eb1 and eb2 have been current for the past months.
as stated in the vb:
employment-based preferences
first: priority workers: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required for fourth and fifth preferences.
second: members of the professions holding advanced degrees or persons of exceptional ability: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required by first preference.
third: skilled workers, professionals, and other workers: 28.6% of the worldwide level, plus any numbers not required by first and second preferences, not more than 10,000 of which to "other workers".

as far as i know, re-capping of visas usually does not happen at least until the middle to the latter stages of the fiscal year because they have to make sure that those visas are really not going to be used to make it a 'spill-over' as some people are terming it.

there were quite a significant number that got approved (mostly aos) from mid last year when the pds started moving forward and finally went current in july.

as far as consular processing is concerned, nvc regularly asks for updates and so they have an idea if the case is 'abandoned' or 'inactive' if they get no response from those. some people with old pds in cp really do abandon it because it was taking so long while some are in other countries already and there are also a few that do not respond to give updated biographical info and other updates such as updated police clearances, etc.. so, you may also deduct those not responding anymore and take them out of the equation.

however, uscis also just came out with the 180 day time-limit for the fbi name check and will be now giving gcs to those who filed for aos with old pds and are documentarily complete once their pds become current. this is now added to the equation. there is a total 400,000 that is said to be stuck in the fbi name checks that would otherwise have been given gcs already if not with the lacking fbi name check report. not sure of the country-by-country breakdown for these but should be added to the equation.

so, in my opinion, there are prob. lesser people waiting in line from older pds w/c explains the reason why ph has been temporarily separated from india and china and having the same forward movements as from the "other chargeability areas" since the new fiscal year but that can change in the coming vbs depending on some circumstances and factors i've mentioned above.

people will just have to wait for the next few vbs to find out if it will continue to move forward, stay as it is or even retrogress. one thing is for sure, it will not go beyond the july and aug 2007 pd as there are just too many that filed on those dates.

*these are just my opinions.