Deaconess Students

New Castle Ken · Apr 10, 2004

Hi Everyone,
I was just curious as to how much the program at DCN is changing. I heard that you had to secure a site for clinicals before you are even accepted into the program. Has anyone else heard of this new requirement?
mona

I don't know about the changes but I have read in a posting a few weeks ago that a student was having trouble finding a clinical site. She was able to use the facilities that DCN was associated with but as far as specialties (I think Peds) she couldn't find a hospital to take her on. Actually, for a hospital to take on an individual student puts them in a bind legally.

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Apr 10, 2004

I don't know about the changes but I have read in a posting a few weeks ago that a student was having troupble finding a clinical site. She was able to use the facilities that DCN was associated with but as far as specialties (I think Peds) she couldn't find a hospital to take her on. Actually, for a hospital to take on an individual student puts them in a bind legally.

Thanks for the info.

Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?

mona

RedSox33RN · Apr 10, 2004

Thanks for the info.
Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?
mona

I asked a friend about this, and she thinks it is because the students have to work off of the instructors license, and the hospital or RN is not a true instructor, it would put all licenses in jeopardy should something happen. Lawyers would have a field day if they found out that a student is working off of a license from someone not even accredited by the school they are attending. At least, that was her perception of it.

New Castle Ken · Apr 10, 2004

Thanks for the info.
Why do you think taking on an individual student puts the hospital in a legal bind?
mona

I assume the hospital would be taking full responsibility for the student's actions, rather than the instructor and the school. Also students would have to rely on the hospital staff to teach them which would also be a problem. Many times new staff have enough trouble getting someone to help them let alone students (without instructors).

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Apr 10, 2004

I assume the hospital would be taking full responsibility for the student's actions, rather than the instructor and the school. Also students would have to rely on the hospital staff to teach them which would also be a problem. Many times new staff have enough trouble getting someone to help them let alone students (without instructors).

Hi Kenneth,

I am not quite sure how the legalities of this situation would play out. I believe that nursing students are usually covered by the school as far as liability.

I agree with you on the fact that most hospitals have their hands full as it is, but I think you also have to see the positive side of having a student on board. An extra pair of competent hands could be a godsend on a busy floor.

mona

Lisa C a Nurse2b · Apr 10, 2004

I found a clinical site right off the bat. Not a problem, the local Hospital is very excited to be involved in the program. I do think that having my clinical site setup did help out in me being accepted. I start classes in the fall.

Lisa

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Apr 10, 2004

I found a clinical site right off the bat. Not a problem, the local Hospital is very excited to be involved in the program. I do think that having my clinical site setup did help out in me being accepted. I start classes in the fall.
Lisa

Lisa, that is great news, good luck to you!

mona

fry.girl · Apr 10, 2004

Hi Everyone,
I was just curious as to how much the program at DCN is changing. I heard that you had to secure a site for clinicals before you are even accepted into the program. Has anyone else heard of this new requirement?
mona

Mona,

I was accepted for the Fall 2004 session without a clinical contract, but DCN did mention that half of the Fall class needs to have their clinical contract before classes start.

I am not sure why a hospital would be in a legal bind in accepted a clinical contract from a DCN student versus a contract with any student from another school. Both of the major hospitals here in Orlando precept community college nurses year round. I responded to an ad on http://www.campusRN.com from Florida Hospital advertising for nurse externs to complete their clinical training for college credit at their hospital. They only require a one week orientation to start. So I am hoping to hear something positive back this week...

Cheri

mona b RN, BSN, RN · Apr 11, 2004

Mona,
I was accepted for the Fall 2004 session without a clinical contract, but DCN did mention that half of the Fall class needs to have their clinical contract before classes start.
I am not sure why a hospital would be in a legal bind in accepted a clinical contract from a DCN student versus a contract with any student from another school. Both of the major hospitals here in Orlando precept community college nurses year round. I responded to an ad on http://www.campusRN.com from Florida Hospital advertising for nurse externs to complete their clinical training for college credit at their hospital. They only require a one week orientation to start. So I am hoping to hear something positive back this week...
Cheri

Good luck to you Cheri. I hope the hospital calls you with good news.

I'm curious as to why only half of the admissions for fall have to have a clinical site in place, why wouldn't that apply to all the students?

mona

Lisa C a Nurse2b · Apr 12, 2004

Mona

DCN only has 40 slots for the fall 20 must already have clinical sites setup. I don't know why this is. I was told this by Erin Kelly as I was filling out the application for the fall. So I just got on the ball and did everything I could to get everything in order before the deadline. Then I had to wait.

Lisa

fry.girl · Apr 13, 2004

Congrats on getting a Clinical Contract...That ROCKS...It is so encouraging to hear this program work for people...It gives me hope.

Sounds like you got your stuff together...Way to go!!!! :lol2:

I will keep you up to date with how my "Preceptor Hunting" goes.

Cheri