Advice from someone who hires

After years of hard work, you finally graduate from nursing school and in spite of rosy predictions of a great job market, you're finding it's really hard to find a job. Maybe even worse than finding a spot in nursing school, or harder than passing the NCLEX. I hire employees and I know what goes on on the other side of the application process. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

First, you probably read books about putting a resume together, or even hired someone to polish yours. Those are good steps, but to set yourself apart from the masses, you need to do more. Before you even start writing your resume, talk to your friends, classmates, professors and employers. Ask them what they perceive your strengths to be. Take inventory of ALL your skills and accomplishments. Women in particular have a hard time promoting themselves. Don't be shy. Start an informal list of your achievements. If you won awards, jot that down; if your GPA was high, put a little check mark beside that, did you spend time supervising others? Think hard... this doesn't have to be a job title, just a job responsibility. Compile your resume in the way that best suits your skills. If you're a young new grad without work experience find a resume template that highlights your academic history; ditto for someone with vast work experience.

While you're talking to those professors and employers, ask their permission to use them as a reference. Get their preferred contact information. Don't limit yourself to a few people because you don't want to ask the same people for letters over, and over. (It's flattering to be asked, but time consuming to actually write letters for people. Have a number of references you can rotate through as needed.) And, of course, don't have them contacted by prospective employers until the end of the hiring process.

Now, decide what kind of job you want. There are thousands of people out there who apply for every job they find. You may feel anxious, but casting your net too far and wide won't bring many calls for interviews. There is a reason for this, which I'll explain later. Be realistic in your expectations. You probably have a sense for what jobs are most desirable and where competition is intense (Labor & Delivery, peds, etc.) If this is your goal, it'll be even harder to land your dream job. Not to say those jobs are impossible to find as a new grad, but there are many others applying for them. If your ultimate goal is a job with lots of competition, find another way in: if you want to work in a NICU, maybe start at a Children's Hospital working with more difficult patients. Once you figure out where you want to be, concentrate your efforts to those jobs. Write your resume with that in mind. Using the peds example, focus your resume on your experience with kids; your peds rotation, and any other experience you have that shows you're interested in children.

Now, scour the ads, but don't limit yourself to posted or advertised jobs. Talk to everyone you know, tell them what you're looking for and ask if they have any leads. When you do hear of a possibility, focus on that one job as you write your cover letter. Talk about why you fit into THAT organization, talk about their mission, their organizational structure and why you want to work THERE. (You can find organization's mission statements on their websites and learn other details about them, too.) So, your letter reads something like, "I share Washington Hospital's committment to serving the underserved memebers of the community..." Then talk briefly about your volunteer experience giving flu shots to uninsured patients through your church's medical efforts. You want to make sure you set yourself apart from the other applicants. Your cover letter should be less than one page of easy to read text (no tiny font!)

Making your application specific to an employer or organization is time consuming, but it pays off. This is why you want to be specific in your job hunting efforts. When people tell me they sent out 2000 applications, I know that virtually all of them were read briefly and put in the 'big pile'. You're better off sending 20 specific applications than 2000 general ones.

After you send your resume and cover letter, follow up with another letter expressing continued interest. You may even make one phone call to check in. If you hear nothing after three months, send another resume and a new cover letter (can be basically the same, just tweak it to say you're still intersted in working for them). Tell them you're available for an interview and be upbeat, professionally enthusiastic and pleasant.

Speaking of professional, please do NOT include emoticons, or write your cover letter on pink stationary (honest, I've seen this!) When someone is looking through a pile of resumes (whether electronic or hard copy), the first ones cut are those with such glaring unprofessional appearances, or terrible spelling or grammar.

And, if you're lucky enough to be invited for an interview, wear something professional. A suit is better than slacks and a blouse, but do not show up in jeans! Even though it may be perfectly acceptable to wear jeans to class, to restaurants, etc., it is NOT OK to wear jeans to a job interview. If you have to borrow something or even buy a suit at Goodwill, it would be a great idea... trust me! The person interviewing you will notice what you're wearing.

When you get home from the interview, write a thank you note to the person who you spoke with (or several notes if you were interviewed by several people). Thank them for their time, express your strong desire to work there, and express that you look forward to their decision and "if there is anything else I can do..." If you don't hear something in a week, email or phone them and politely ask if they have made a decision and that you're very anxious to be part of their team.

Yes, writing multiple, specific letters is time consuming, but there is a pay-off. Think of it like this: would you rather get a generic birthday card from someone with a stamped signature? or open a card that you know was chosen just for you and had a handwritten note inside saying what a great friend you are?

Best of luck to all!

Specializes in Mental Health, Hospice Care.

Great article, and a very timely one for me personally....I will be graduating my LPN Program in June and want to "get a jump" on all my fellow nursing students in the job market....Even though I am not licensed (yet) I have been hitting the pavement and getting my name to those folks who do the hiring....This is an aggressive strategy for sure, but I really want them to remember me when the time comes to apply for the real deal....it really is about sales and marketing when looking for a job, look the part (professional) and speak well if given the opportunity....the competition is tough here in Denver, but I am convinced that this will work...I hope lol....and one more thing, write those "Thank you" letters....you may be the only one who does, and that in my mind is just good manners....wish me luck!....(no seriously, wish me luck!....:-) I will be waiting to see who did....lol

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noc4senuf makes a good point about 'making the cut'. With piles of applications and resumes a hiring manager has to start somewhere. Fair or not, the first ones that get tossed are the ones with blatent mistakes (like filling out the section that says, DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE). The second round to get shoved aside are those that don't stand out in some way. Another big 'no-no' is filling your resume to the point the page is overflowing. A resume should highlight your best accomplishments, not every single one along the way. Yes, mention you worked at the ice cream shop the summer of 10th grade--and include if you supervised others, but limit those experiences to a line or two, then concentrate on more recent accomplishments.)

I had an applicant do all the right things, but she didn't get to the interview. Nothing wrong with her, she just didn't stand out in the crowd. She changed that a few months later when she wrote a personal note to me saying that she applied for a job, put a lot of work and effort into her resume and cover letter and she was respectfully asking if I might spend a few moments editing her resume. She was extremely diplomatic about it; she genuinely praised our organization, thanked me in advance, and said that she wanted to learn from the experience. I invited her in to talk about her resume. She came with a small notepad and jotted down suggestions I had for her. We looked at her resume and I offered some constructive criticism. She thanked me again and repeated that her intention was to learn from her experience. I received a note in the mail a couple days later thanking me again. Two weeks later, when we had an opening for a grad nurse, she was the first person I thought of. Apparently, she used this tactic at several other places because she had been hired the day before by a competitor! I was truly disappointed that she had been scooped up--I saw her as determined and ambitious. (I'll warn you, if you do use this approach, you may be turned down in your request for feedback on your application. Don't take the first 'no' as a rejection, call several employers and do the same. It might not work, but I can guarantee it will get someone's attention!)

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Nurseboy!!! Psssssstt! Good luck!!!!

Great advice. Total opposite of what our job placement told us. The only thing that I do opposite of what they taught me is I have a 2 page Resume. Like this post says, if I got awards and key accomplishments I am definently going to gloat about it.

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Different people have different philosophies about job-seeking strategies. In my previous example, with the young woman who came back and asked me to critique her resume, some managers might see her approach as pushy or not want to spend the time with her. But, I saw her efforts as genuine and very determined; besides had she not approached me for assistance, she wouldn't have gotten the job anyway--she had nothing to lose and everything to gain.

So, some managers might like seeing a two-page resume; most don't. You won't win with everyone, and you have no idea who might like/ dislike certain approaches. There are some fairly standard expectations of job-seekers, though and you want to follow those rules (always use spell check; have someone else look at your resume and cover letter and edit; dress professionally; be polite to everyone... including the receptionist, house-keepers, and garage attendant!) Sit up straight, make eye-contact, and relax (it's tough, but you'll make the interviewer more comfortable if you're personable and relaxed).

Interviewing is a learned skill. Practicing makes you better. Have someone role play with you and practice answering questions. There are books filled with standard interview questions; they are available at libraries if you don't want to purchase one. Practice answering those questions. (I've heard of some common, yet tough ones: "What did you not like about your last employer?" Hint: they're looking for honesty, but not an applicant ripping their last employer apart; a good answer might be, "I really enjoyed XYZ Hospital, and my boss was terrific, but I felt I was capable of more, my skills weren't well utilized, and there was limited opportunity for growth.")

Near the end of the interview, virtually aways you'll be encouraged to ask the interviewer questions. Don't mumble, "Nah, I don't have any questions." Prepare some. "If I were hired, what would your goals be for me for my first year of employment?" Don't ask, "How much vacation time will I get?"

Lots oh helpful tips! Thank you! :bow:

Good advice. I pretty much followed this plan and was offered the first job I applied for......

Or maybe it was I also have a BS in Prodessional Management and 25 years of customer service exp?

I dunno.....

Hi PattiRN!!

Thank you for the private response, but I am unable to send to you. When I tried to send to you, I received a message that stated you cannot receive any personal emails due to your folder size at the maximum allowed.

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Excellent Post and Thanks!

First, you probably read books about putting a resume together, or even hired someone to polish yours. Those are good steps, but to set yourself apart from the masses, you need to do more. Before you even start writing your resume, talk to your friends, classmates, professors and employers. Ask them what they perceive your strengths to be. Take inventory of ALL your skills and accomplishments. Women in particular have a hard time promoting themselves. Don't be shy. Start an informal list of your achievements. If you won awards, jot that down; if your GPA was high, put a little check mark beside that, did you spend time supervising others? Think hard... this doesn't have to be a job title, just a job responsibility. Compile your resume in the way that best suits your skills. If you're a young new grad without work experience find a resume template that highlights your academic history; ditto for someone with vast work experience.

While you're talking to those professors and employers, ask their permission to use them as a reference. Get their preferred contact information. Don't limit yourself to a few people because you don't want to ask the same people for letters over, and over. (It's flattering to be asked, but time consuming to actually write letters for people. Have a number of references you can rotate through as needed.) And, of course, don't have them contacted by prospective employers until the end of the hiring process.

Now, decide what kind of job you want. There are thousands of people out there who apply for every job they find. You may feel anxious, but casting your net too far and wide won't bring many calls for interviews. There is a reason for this, which I'll explain later. Be realistic in your expectations. You probably have a sense for what jobs are most desirable and where competition is intense (Labor & Delivery, peds, etc.) If this is your goal, it'll be even harder to land your dream job. Not to say those jobs are impossible to find as a new grad, but there are many others applying for them. If your ultimate goal is a job with lots of competition, find another way in: if you want to work in a NICU, maybe start at a Children's Hospital working with more difficult patients. Once you figure out where you want to be, concentrate your efforts to those jobs. Write your resume with that in mind. Using the peds example, focus your resume on your experience with kids; your peds rotation, and any other experience you have that shows you're interested in children.

Now, scour the ads, but don't limit yourself to posted or advertised jobs. Talk to everyone you know, tell them what you're looking for and ask if they have any leads. When you do hear of a possibility, focus on that one job as you write your cover letter. Talk about why you fit into THAT organization, talk about their mission, their organizational structure and why you want to work THERE. (You can find organization's mission statements on their websites and learn other details about them, too.) So, your letter reads something like, "I share Washington Hospital's committment to serving the underserved memebers of the community..." Then talk briefly about your volunteer experience giving flu shots to uninsured patients through your church's medical efforts. You want to make sure you set yourself apart from the other applicants. Your cover letter should be less than one page of easy to read text (no tiny font!)

Making your application specific to an employer or organization is time consuming, but it pays off. This is why you want to be specific in your job hunting efforts. When people tell me they sent out 2000 applications, I know that virtually all of them were read briefly and put in the 'big pile'. You're better off sending 20 specific applications than 2000 general ones.

After you send your resume and cover letter, follow up with another letter expressing continued interest. You may even make one phone call to check in. If you hear nothing after three months, send another resume and a new cover letter (can be basically the same, just tweak it to say you're still intersted in working for them). Tell them you're available for an interview and be upbeat, professionally enthusiastic and pleasant.

Speaking of professional, please do NOT include emoticons, or write your cover letter on pink stationary (honest, I've seen this!) When someone is looking through a pile of resumes (whether electronic or hard copy), the first ones cut are those with such glaring unprofessional appearances, or terrible spelling or grammar.

And, if you're lucky enough to be invited for an interview, wear something professional. A suit is better than slacks and a blouse, but do not show up in jeans! Even though it may be perfectly acceptable to wear jeans to class, to restaurants, etc., it is NOT OK to wear jeans to a job interview. If you have to borrow something or even buy a suit at Goodwill, it would be a great idea... trust me! The person interviewing you will notice what you're wearing.

When you get home from the interview, write a thank you note to the person who you spoke with (or several notes if you were interviewed by several people). Thank them for their time, express your strong desire to work there, and express that you look forward to their decision and "if there is anything else I can do..." If you don't hear something in a week, email or phone them and politely ask if they have made a decision and that you're very anxious to be part of their team.

Yes, writing multiple, specific letters is time consuming, but there is a pay-off. Think of it like this: would you rather get a generic birthday card from someone with a stamped signature? or open a card that you know was chosen just for you and had a handwritten note inside saying what a great friend you are?

Best of luck to all!

Specializes in all but OB and Peds.

Your comments were right on point. I will admit to wearing scrubs to an interview, now as weird as this may sound I have interview scrubs, that I would were. I am a suit kind of person, matching jacket and matching bottoms. The ones I wore were black the soft scrub material with a zippered jacket, very professional looking with a low keyed scrub with just enough color to provide some contrast, with black nursing shoes, it works well well worked well for me, I got the position.. When time is an issue you find a way to make it work, adjustments and flexibility is a must especially in this job market. That scrub suit was a little pricey but it worked and looks professional enough for an interview. I made sure of that.

I like nearly every point made by this article. The one point I feel was glossed over but not actually made apparent was "Be Patient." Not everyone can be patient though. I was working 2 jobs 235mi apart, splitting time between my family and staying at my brothers house (for 6 months) while applying for positions. Between April and August 2010 I was working outside nursing and wondering if I had just spent 5 years and tens of thousands of dollars on an education I wouldn't be able to use because of hiring freezes and layoffs.

Some people can't wait 3 months for a job interview, but being focused and determined will go a long way. Go to the place you want to work, talk to nurses there and find out what they are looking for specifically and who the hiring manager is. Call or leave a note for the manager and set up an informal interview to get "face time," because paper resumes all look the same after a while. Once they see you and put a face to a name/resume/note/phone call, you begin to stand out.

Last but not least, do everything you can to be what you are interviewed for. I was a new grad with NO hospital experience. I let the unit manager who interviewed me know I had no experience but was willing to learn as quickly as necessary, work any shift necessary and do what it takes to get the job, but not look desperate while doing it. It worked, I have a job, I am getting experience, and will be moving into a different position soon.

Good Luck. Be patient. Be Honest. Get the job.

Specializes in LTC, Agency, HHC.
First, you probably read books about putting a resume together, or even hired someone to polish yours. Those are good steps, but to set yourself apart from the masses, you need to do more. Before you even start writing your resume, talk to your friends, classmates, professors and employers. Ask them what they perceive your strengths to be. Take inventory of ALL your skills and accomplishments. Women in particular have a hard time promoting themselves. Don't be shy. Start an informal list of your achievements. If you won awards, jot that down; if your GPA was high, put a little check mark beside that, did you spend time supervising others? Think hard... this doesn't have to be a job title, just a job responsibility. Compile your resume in the way that best suits your skills. If you're a young new grad without work experience find a resume template that highlights your academic history; ditto for someone with vast work experience.

While you're talking to those professors and employers, ask their permission to use them as a reference. Get their preferred contact information. Don't limit yourself to a few people because you don't want to ask the same people for letters over, and over. (It's flattering to be asked, but time consuming to actually write letters for people. Have a number of references you can rotate through as needed.) And, of course, don't have them contacted by prospective employers until the end of the hiring process.

Now, decide what kind of job you want. There are thousands of people out there who apply for every job they find. You may feel anxious, but casting your net too far and wide won't bring many calls for interviews. There is a reason for this, which I'll explain later. Be realistic in your expectations. You probably have a sense for what jobs are most desirable and where competition is intense (Labor & Delivery, peds, etc.) If this is your goal, it'll be even harder to land your dream job. Not to say those jobs are impossible to find as a new grad, but there are many others applying for them. If your ultimate goal is a job with lots of competition, find another way in: if you want to work in a NICU, maybe start at a Children's Hospital working with more difficult patients. Once you figure out where you want to be, concentrate your efforts to those jobs. Write your resume with that in mind. Using the peds example, focus your resume on your experience with kids; your peds rotation, and any other experience you have that shows you're interested in children.

Now, scour the ads, but don't limit yourself to posted or advertised jobs. Talk to everyone you know, tell them what you're looking for and ask if they have any leads. When you do hear of a possibility, focus on that one job as you write your cover letter. Talk about why you fit into THAT organization, talk about their mission, their organizational structure and why you want to work THERE. (You can find organization's mission statements on their websites and learn other details about them, too.) So, your letter reads something like, "I share Washington Hospital's committment to serving the underserved memebers of the community..." Then talk briefly about your volunteer experience giving flu shots to uninsured patients through your church's medical efforts. You want to make sure you set yourself apart from the other applicants. Your cover letter should be less than one page of easy to read text (no tiny font!)

Making your application specific to an employer or organization is time consuming, but it pays off. This is why you want to be specific in your job hunting efforts. When people tell me they sent out 2000 applications, I know that virtually all of them were read briefly and put in the 'big pile'. You're better off sending 20 specific applications than 2000 general ones.

After you send your resume and cover letter, follow up with another letter expressing continued interest. You may even make one phone call to check in. If you hear nothing after three months, send another resume and a new cover letter (can be basically the same, just tweak it to say you're still intersted in working for them). Tell them you're available for an interview and be upbeat, professionally enthusiastic and pleasant.

Speaking of professional, please do NOT include emoticons, or write your cover letter on pink stationary (honest, I've seen this!) When someone is looking through a pile of resumes (whether electronic or hard copy), the first ones cut are those with such glaring unprofessional appearances, or terrible spelling or grammar.

And, if you're lucky enough to be invited for an interview, wear something professional. A suit is better than slacks and a blouse, but do not show up in jeans! Even though it may be perfectly acceptable to wear jeans to class, to restaurants, etc., it is NOT OK to wear jeans to a job interview. If you have to borrow something or even buy a suit at Goodwill, it would be a great idea... trust me! The person interviewing you will notice what you're wearing.

When you get home from the interview, write a thank you note to the person who you spoke with (or several notes if you were interviewed by several people). Thank them for their time, express your strong desire to work there, and express that you look forward to their decision and "if there is anything else I can do..." If you don't hear something in a week, email or phone them and politely ask if they have made a decision and that you're very anxious to be part of their team.

Yes, writing multiple, specific letters is time consuming, but there is a pay-off. Think of it like this: would you rather get a generic birthday card from someone with a stamped signature? or open a card that you know was chosen just for you and had a handwritten note inside saying what a great friend you are?

Best of luck to all!

Then I have even more questions......

They interview and ask for permission and you have to sign an OK for a background check. Then they say I will call you tomorrow, and then never call. You call to check into the position again and to let them know you are still interested and they never get back to you. I interviewed for a job at an ALF (I have no experience with ALF or memory care) but I do have 7 years (almost) of SNF/skilled nursing. So, am I overqualified and they don't want to tell me so, or because I don't have experience they don't think the skills I do have are appropriate? Or because I am an LPN, not an RN? And I even sent a thank you note. Does anyone even read them anymore?? (And I just found out the Executive Director, who interviewed me, is leaving....should I call about the job or assume they aren't interested?)

How professional is that? I have interviewed with several companies that I would have loved to work for and they did exactly this. Not only are you interviewing me, I am also interviewing you. If you can't call when you say you will, or return my calls, how are you with your regular staff? That is really professional. And yet, the interviewer expects the interviewee to be professional.

(I and you is not meant to be you the OP, but an example.)

Are background checks done for everyone, or just the people you want to hire? She told me to put my birth date on the app so she could do a background check, and I did.