No call/show doing OT.

[night owl]

I have a concern that affects pt care/safety and it's a vent.

We have a NA on our LTC unit that come every pay day, he's a no call no show. Last pay day he didn't call or show up for three days. :angryfire Because of his absence, it put pt care at jeopardy because two other NA's called out sick which left our 60 pt unit with one NA and three nurses. All other units were short also and the supervisor could only send one CNA from another unit. One hallway was uncovered so the three of us nurses did all the meds, all the paperwork plus did all the pt care for the uncovered hall. This happened for two of the days he wasn't here. The third day I did the pt care for one hallway and the other nurses covered the meds etc. Our gripe is this...Upon his return, he wound up doing three days OT. Is this allowable? If an employee is a no call no show for three days, should he be allowed to do OT? The supervisor has actually come to the unit, woke him up out of a dead, loudly snoring sleep to ask him/remind him about OT. This happens on a regular basis. Had a nurse done this, she'd been fired let alone do OT. Would this be tolerated at other facilities? I'm not sure if management is aware of any issues with him and why he's a chronic no call/show come pay days OR should we mind our own business and let it go? :stone

[Judee Smudee, ADN, RN]

Every place I have ever worked had very strict rules about this sort of behavior. This employee would be placed on probabtion and if it continued fired. You should not be worrying about this, managment should have dealt with this long ago. What kind of lax people do you work for at this facility? What else do they permit to go on at this facility that compromises patient care?

[night owl]

What kind of lax people do you work for at this facility?

Preferential treatment. "I won't say anything about your no call/show if you fill in the gaps for my staffing." At least that's what we're thinking. Our UM is brand new, so she won't say anything to him...yet.

[meownsmile, BSN, RN]

At our facility, if you are a no call/no show 1 day you have no job. They consider it resignation unless you meet with the manager and you have a very very clear emergent reason for not being there and not having access to a phone. Which now adays with the cell phone there is absolutely NO reason, unless your unconcious someplace in the wilderness, hog tied and surrounded by a band of roving rabid monkeys , not to call in.

If he has been woke up from a dead snoring sleep while at work im surprised that didnt punch his ticket. Thats negligence.

Is he actually getting paid an OT rate though? I wouldnt think he would get that rate if he had already missed 3 days on the pay period. But i have a question,, who's he related to?

[ValerieB]

Give me a break! I can't believe he still has a job. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of and then they find him asleep? Yeah, I'd sure want my loved ones in that LTC facility.

[DusktilDawn]

I have a concern that affects pt care/safety and it's a vent.

We have a NA on our LTC unit that come every pay day, he's a no call no show. Last pay day he didn't call or show up for three days. :angryfire Because of his absence, it put pt care at jeopardy because two other NA's called out sick which left our 60 pt unit with one NA and three nurses. All other units were short also and the supervisor could only send one CNA from another unit. One hallway was uncovered so the three of us nurses did all the meds, all the paperwork plus did all the pt care for the uncovered hall. This happened for two of the days he wasn't here. The third day I did the pt care for one hallway and the other nurses covered the meds etc. Our gripe is this...Upon his return, he wound up doing three days OT. Is this allowable? If an employee is a no call no show for three days, should he be allowed to do OT? The supervisor has actually come to the unit, woke him up out of a dead, loudly snoring sleep to ask him/remind him about OT. This happens on a regular basis. Had a nurse done this, she'd been fired let alone do OT. Would this be tolerated at other facilities? I'm not sure if management is aware of any issues with him and why he's a chronic no call/show come pay days OR should we mind our own business and let it go? :stone

I've heard rumors about this kind of behavior going on other units in my facility. My UM would not tolerate this behavior from any of her staff. I don't understand why people who just don't show up on a regular and predictable basis still have jobs!!!! :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

Shame on your UM for allowing him to do this:nono:

Occasionally someone may screw up their schedule or oversleep, but I know I wouldn't have a job if I regularly did not show up for work without notification. I certainly would NEVER have had a supervisor wake me up to ask me for OT, I would be fired on the spot, I'm not paid to sleep plain and simple.

I think you should first address this matter with your UM and if he/she continues to allow this behavior, if she/he allows different rules for different fools than take it further up the food chain. If this kind of behavior would not be tolerated by nurses, why should it be tolerated by others.

If this happened on the unit I work and my UM allowed it, I WOULD go as far up the food chain as necessary. Why should patients suffer and be placed in danger? Why should staff be forced to tolerated the added stress of being understaffed because this behavior is tolerated? Why should one person be held to a different set of standards than another?

You stated that you did not know if management was aware of the situation, your management may not be aware of this situation, bring it to their attention. Document these incidents and if their are witnesses have them add their statements & signatures if necessary.

[SmilingBluEyes]

If there is no sufficient documentation regarding this, nothing will change.

[Thunderwolf, MSN, RN]

If there is no sufficient documentation regarding this, nothing will change.

I totally agree.