Published Oct 28, 2005
Shane_in_Arizona
5 Posts
I am interested in finding out about any creative ways your school/organization is dealing with the shortage of nursing faculty. Parterships with health care organizations, grants, loan forgiveness programs, others?
sirI, MSN, APRN, NP
17 Articles; 45,819 Posts
:balloons: Hello and Welcome to Allnurses.com:balloons:
Great to have you with us here in the Educator forum. I hope you get the opportunity to check the other forums as well.
The shortage here is just as bad as any place. So many potential students are turned away due to the fact we just do not have enough instructors. At my university, we are fortunate to have employed enough, but, I know 2 who are leaving and will be most difficult to replace.
We offer loan forgiveness with our university and that does seem to ease the pain somewhat.
What suggestions do you have?
spaniel
180 Posts
Frankly I do not see all that many openings for the decently paid assistant/associate or certainly full professorships. Yes, there are loads of poorly paid adjuncts positions around. I'd really like to see some hard data on shortages. I see the issue more as a shortage of basic RN (ADN/ or BSN) programs. It is my understanding that colleges see this major as one of the more expensive majors to fund.
KatieBell
875 Posts
I'd agree with Spaniel. I've just come from looking at the Chronicle of higher education...jobs, and most of the nursing jobs are for adjunct- which is fine, but pays poorly...Most people when they find out I want to be a nurse educatior they ask me why because I can make as much as a staff nurse- without going back to school etc.
Our school has a partnership with the local hospital, the main employer of our graduating nurses. They fund two of our nursing faculty salaries which allowed us to expand the program. Additionally, they provide a stipend which makes the salaries more competitive with what could be made in clinical practice.
SarasotaRN2b
1,164 Posts
How is the opportunity to obtain a tenured position if one is able to relocate? And where can one find more opportunities in the US?
I've got some time to go, but I am curious.
psalm_55
67 Posts
How is the opportunity to obtain a tenured position if one is able to relocate? And where can one find more opportunities in the US?I've got some time to go, but I am curious.
tenure requires doctorate, and years of teaching, research, and service to the academic community and community-at-large . it takes years. but one can apply for a "tenure track" position.
kaydee rn
10 Posts
Hi I am interested in knowing how nurse faculty are paid. A good deal of our Full time faculty's time is spent in lab and clinical. Neither of these activities are counted one hr for one hr for our teaching load. It is LESS. Therefore nursing faculty need to work more hours (eg 19) for the same amount of pay as other depts, such as English in which there are no labs or clinicals. They need to work just the 15 hrs to make "required teaching load"
Have any other nursing depts resolved this inequity...how?
Thanks
VickyRN, MSN, DNP, RN
49 Articles; 5,349 Posts
Hi I am interested in knowing how nurse faculty are paid. A good deal of our Full time faculty's time is spent in lab and clinical. Neither of these activities are counted one hr for one hr for our teaching load. It is LESS. Therefore nursing faculty need to work more hours (eg 19) for the same amount of pay as other depts, such as English in which there are no labs or clinicals. They need to work just the 15 hrs to make "required teaching load"Have any other nursing depts resolved this inequity...how?Thanks
At our community college, the pay overall for faculty is low (NC is 47th in the nation for community college salaries, and our college, servicing four economically-challenged counties, is on the lower end for NC). The nursing faculty on our campus do have the highest salaries (we make more than those who teach English, algebra, anatomy, computer technology, etc.), but even then our salaries only equal or are LESS than what our new ADN graduates make as they enter the job market as a staff nurse
JaneyW
640 Posts
Vicky-
Congrats on making the CNE!! I am just starting my MSN and learned all about the CNE in a research project. You should be very proud to be among the first to achieve that status!
To the OP: here in CA, there are plenty of tenure track positions at the ADN level and they pay pretty well with good benefits and retirement. But, you can still make as much or more at the hospitals. I am looking at it as no holidays and summers off to travel if I want. I am looking for a pension. The big problem is that the powerful unions that secured the good pay and benefits also have made it so the colleges can't pay nursing instructors more than any other instructors. This is a problem as there are more applicants for positions other than nursing.
rpv_rn
167 Posts
"this is a problem as there are more applicants for positions other than nursing."
wish i knew where these applicants are! are you speaking of msn prepared rns? our tenure track, full / part time positions require msn degree. clinical instructors may be rns with bsns but they are adjunct, not tenured.
I meant applicants for English, History, etc. Non-nursing positions. I am speaking of what I have heard about community college level here in California. I think that our community college level profs get paid fairly well, but staff nurses get paid well also!