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  1. by   EGspirit
    My intent is not to insult anyone, nor is it my intent to get bullied by a bunch of atheists. If I want that, I have other forums I can go to. What the hell is it with nurses anyway? Why are they often such bullies to people? Not that you have victimized me; I personally couldn't care less, but it has never ceased to amaze me how the cruelest eat-your-young bullies get into nursing.

    If you don't serve God (and in nursing you get the opportunity to love your neighbor when they most need it--which is serving God), then you have no purpose for anything you do. Life is too short; it's too meaningless; everyone dies, so if you're just out there acting like some evolutionary automaton with no clear reason at all for the service you do as a nurse, then I think you are in a lost and sad place. I'd rather suffer and die than have you philosophical zombies caring for me (philosophical zombie...just Google it).
  2. by   Ruas61
    Quote from EGspirit
    My intent is not to insult anyone, nor is it my intent to get bullied by a bunch of atheists. If I want that, I have other forums I can go to. What the hell is it with nurses anyway? Why are they often such bullies to people? Not that you have victimized me; I personally couldn't care less, but it has never ceased to amaze me how the cruelest eat-your-young bullies get into nursing.

    If you don't serve God (and in nursing you get the opportunity to love your neighbor when they most need it--which is serving God), then you have no purpose for anything you do. Life is too short; it's too meaningless; everyone dies, so if you're just out there acting like some evolutionary automaton with no clear reason at all for the service you do as a nurse, then I think you are in a lost and sad place. I'd rather suffer and die than have you philosophical zombies caring for me (philosophical zombie...just Google it).
    Your words are spiteful and arrogant.

    Did G-d give you the exclusive on righteousness?

    Google Micah 6:8.
  3. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    Oh wait!!! I missed the "absolutely nothing" nonsense. Who is anybody to say that much less a "religious" person. Are you pretending to know me? Doesn't the plastic Jesus on your dashboard tell you that judgment is his when he talks to you? As for me the Cat in the Damn Hat tells me this is just another judgment cast by the holier than thou God-Squader's when they have no business casting judgment nor basis thereof except for the fact that somebody else has the temerity to deny having the Jesus in Technicolor telling them when to change their underwear.
    Oh, didn't you know, she has super special powers conferred to her by Jesus that enables her to determine who is fulfilled or not. See, seeing as you don't have her super special Jesus, you can't be fulfilled.

    She is just another shining example of why I became a pagan. I can find fulfillment without all the bloody strings.
  4. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from EGspirit
    My intent is not to insult anyone, nor is it my intent to get bullied by a bunch of atheists. If I want that, I have other forums I can go to. What the hell is it with nurses anyway? Why are they often such bullies to people? Not that you have victimized me; I personally couldn't care less, but it has never ceased to amaze me how the cruelest eat-your-young bullies get into nursing.

    If you don't serve God (and in nursing you get the opportunity to love your neighbor when they most need it--which is serving God), then you have no purpose for anything you do. Life is too short; it's too meaningless; everyone dies, so if you're just out there acting like some evolutionary automaton with no clear reason at all for the service you do as a nurse, then I think you are in a lost and sad place. I'd rather suffer and die than have you philosophical zombies caring for me (philosophical zombie...just Google it).
    No way would I want to serve your idea of God. Your judgmental, rude, and hypocritical. Might I suggest that you worry about the plank in your own eye before you try to remove the speck from ours.
    And I would avoid throwing the bully comments around: You aren't being bullied. You WERE being disagreed with. Huge difference. And if we have our backs up now, it's because of your own comments
  5. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from EGspirit
    mmm buh bye.
    Very mature. Wuzzie had some very good points.
  6. by   khminh
    Quote from CelticGoddess
    No way would I want to serve your idea of God. Your judgmental, rude, and hypocritical. Might I suggest that you worry about the plank in your own eye before you try to remove the speck from ours.
    And I would avoid throwing the bully comments around: You aren't being bullied. You WERE being disagreed with. Huge difference. And if we have our backs up now, it's because of your own comments
    I really like this line of yours. The feeling of transcendence is there. That's why we believe what we believe. However, OP stretched to the extent that anyone who is a caring healthcare professional is serving Jesus or Yahweh. If that is not arrogant, I don't know what is.

    A lot of Christians cannot accept the fact that their feelings about Jesus cannot be translated to another person. Otherwise, we wouldn't have so many religions.

    You see how she said it. If we do not serve God, our lives have no purpose. In this case, if we don't serve Jesus or Yahweh, our lives have no meaning.

    Well, if she really believes that, so be it. My life may have no meaning because I am a Buddhist. However, I have moral principles (not commandments) from my culture and family, and I am who I am because of those principles. My life means nothing in Jesus' eyes, but it means something to myself and my loved ones. That's good enough.
    Last edit by khminh on Jan 2
  7. by   SpankedInPittsburgh
    Oh the actual victims of the holy war are???

    First of all I think we got to see in high-def 3D the whiney nursey-poo poor victim in action. This individual uses her supreme judgement to state that I have "absolutely nothing" and another nurse to "spiritually absent". She then says I should speak up for myself. When I do she flips right into martyr mode. After that she get to her real point that if we aren't serving god (her version no doubt) we have no purpose. Well twit-mistress I don't believe so I ain't serving him. What I do however is take care of my patients. I've done this for years and have been rewarded and recognized richly for such. So much in fact that my employer footed the bill for me to get my DNP and start a new chapter in helping folks. I still won't be serving whatever cartoon character you envision in the sky but hopefully I can help a few more thousand people before I'm done.

    Oh the real victim? It isn't me or your fellow nurses. Heck you're good for a few belly laughs along the way. We aren't dependent on you or your ilk for anything. Oh you will find some low self-esteem types along the way that will listen to your incessant yakking about your beliefs and more than likely a few similarly minded nurses who think all who don't believe the way you / they do are contemptible and damned to whatever cartoon version of hell you have in mind.

    The real victims are your patients. How can you help but to judge if they are "nothing" unless they serve your god? How do you manage to care for these inferior beasts who have not seen the light? Do similarly minded god-squad folks get more attentive care then some "sinner" who hasn't seen your version of the light?

    I'll say it again, whatever flavor of deity you pray to is your business. It has no place in a profession designed to help all sick patients regardless of their belief or how they got into whatever situation they are in. It's divisive as I'm sure you know but that's probably why you went down this road. What fun is martyrdom if nobody is there to worship you for your sanctimonious "sacrifice".

    PS: You said "she" should respond to you. Time for a new plastic Jesus on the dashboard because his little, holy brain must be baked. I'm a guy
  8. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from EGspirit
    And notice, you call yourself "jaded." But hey, if it means nothing more than a job to you, then that's what it is. So long as YOU do your job, and don't leave people suffering because you are spiritually absent.
    I take exception to this comment.

    Someone may not be conventionally religious, doesn't mean they are not capable of delivering exceptional nursing care.
  9. by   Tenebrae
    Quote from EGspirit
    My intent is not to insult anyone, nor is it my intent to get bullied by a bunch of atheists. If I want that, I have other forums I can go to. What the hell is it with nurses anyway? Why are they often such bullies to people? Not that you have victimized me; I personally couldn't care less, but it has never ceased to amaze me how the cruelest eat-your-young bullies get into nursing.
    When you tell me that my patients suffer because of my lack of belief, thats a fairly broad speaking statement with bullying overtones

    You arent being bullied for your beliefs, people are taking exception to what you are saying because it comes across as extremely dooshy and unkind

    If you don't serve God (and in nursing you get the opportunity to love your neighbor when they most need it--which is serving God), then you have no purpose for anything you do.
    How do you think statements like this help your witness for your god?

    Life is too short; it's too meaningless; everyone dies, so if you're just out there acting like some evolutionary automaton with no clear reason at all for the service you do as a nurse, then I think you are in a lost and sad place. I'd rather suffer and die than have you philosophical zombies caring for me (philosophical zombie...just Google it).
    I hate to dispel this notion that because I don't believe in the christian god my life lacks purpose. I get to walk the journey of a patients darkest time in their life and to be a apart of helping people to achieve a good death and to support families as they mourn. (my primary area of practice is gerontology and palliative care).

    As for you not wanting me as your nurse. Thats fine, because after the unbending religious zealotry and general lack of disregard you have demonstrated for your Areligious colleges in this thread, I'd rather not care for you either.
  10. by   elkpark
    Quote from Tenebrae
    How do you think statements like this help your witness for your god?
    ^^ This. I'm always amused by the "Christians" who come here to convince others that their religion is superior (in fact, the only true religion, which we should all embrace), and, in the course of attempting to advertise how great their religion is, thoroughly turn off any number of people who might have been interested or open to persuasion.

    You're a terrific advertisement for Jesus, OP ...
  11. by   Wuzzie
    Heck the OP is turning off Christians. That's true talent!!!
    Last edit by Wuzzie on Jan 3
  12. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from EGspirit
    My intent is not to insult anyone, nor is it my intent to get bullied by a bunch of atheists. If I want that, I have other forums I can go to. What the hell is it with nurses anyway? Why are they often such bullies to people? Not that you have victimized me; I personally couldn't care less, but it has never ceased to amaze me how the cruelest eat-your-young bullies get into nursing.

    If you don't serve God (and in nursing you get the opportunity to love your neighbor when they most need it--which is serving God), then you have no purpose for anything you do. Life is too short; it's too meaningless; everyone dies, so if you're just out there acting like some evolutionary automaton with no clear reason at all for the service you do as a nurse, then I think you are in a lost and sad place. I'd rather suffer and die than have you philosophical zombies caring for me (philosophical zombie...just Googlle it).
    How judgmental of a supposed Christian! I do hope that if you're seriously ill you don't waste time asking your caregivers if they are "philosphical zombies". They'll be too busy laughing to start your IV! You love your religion and feels it adds to your life-great. You do you. But you cannot and should not impose your views on others, especially to a profession consisting of people who often put others needs above themselves and work their butts off to help others. Religion is not a requirement to be a great nurse, or a great anything. If you don't like that, that's your prerogative, but stop with the denigration and name calling of others who don't feel the same way. Aren't we all God's children???
  13. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from elkpark
    ^^ This. I'm always amused by the "Christians" who come here to convince others that their religion is superior (in fact, the only true religion, which we should all embrace), and, in the course of attempting to advertise how great their religion is, thoroughly turn off any number of people who might have been interested or open to persuasion.

    You're a terrific advertisement for Jesus, OP ...
    I think OP is making Jesus sad.

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