Southern Nurses Better Off Than The Rest?

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You may not believe this (or maybe you will!) but I just heard that nurses from states in the South (ie: Mississippi) recently stated to other nurses at the national American Nurses Association convention in Philadelphia that:

"there are no problems with staffing and mandatory overtime" in their states.

If that statement is true - great! Maybe they can tell the rest of us how they did it! (I wonder if the nurses working in pt care in the South know how good they supposedly have it there).

But we also heard from the unionized states in the South (GA, FL, KY, AL, WV, NC, to name a few) that there are terrible problems with staffing in that region of the country. Apparently it is just the non-union Southern states that think everything is just peachy at the bedsides in the South.

These RNs are the leaders elected by nurses in their states to speak for nursing to the legislatures, media, & profession as THE voice of nursing in those states, and they are saying that their states nurses have no problems at the bedsides!!

Any RN here from Mississippi who can back that up?? :)

If some of the Southern RN delegates at the convention are really unaware & misinformed (and are misinforming their legislatures & the rest of the country about the real deal that staff RNs are facing in their states), then staff RNs really need to get into those Southern state nurses assoc & give those people an education, or else nothing is going to get any better for the RN at the bedside in those states.

I wonder why they havent heard from the staff nurses about the staffing shortages they are experiencing. Or have they heard & are just not telling the truth to the rest of us? Or is it true as they say that there are no staff shortages??

Anyway, Southern staff nurse BB friends - please clear this up for me - Do you really NOT have a problem with staffing or mandatory OT in your states?????:eek:

thanks

Lafayette Louisiana here and we have a definate shortage here. Our managers cannot hire people because there are no applicants to be had. We are losing tons of people to agency and traveling and from what i can tell there has been zero attempt to retain nurses. Heck when I let my manager know of my intention to move on to greener pastures I was never even asked to stay.

3 more weeks left in this state and then on to the great state of texas!!!!!!!

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Nurses at Crozer ratify contract---Look what they $$$ won

https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18964

......With an average base salary of $54,000, Crozer nurses had been seeking a limit to the number of patients assigned to them per shift. The union proposed reducing to 5-to-1 the ratio of patients to nurses in medical and surgical units and 2-to-1 in critical care.

Wages for nurses with one year of experience begin at $25 per hour and increase to $37.54 per hour for nurses at the top of the wage scale. In two years, the range will be $27.22 to $41.38 per hour.......

JT I'm in the same state as you, just on the "other" coast. Didn't say there wasn't a shortage in the rest of the state. Just no shortage here. Why do people work for such low wages? People , for reasons unbeknownst to me are very reluctant to leave this hell hole. I am trappped here because my wife won't move. Don't know why othres stay. Residents that are here for school say they are leaving the day after they Graduate. People who do leave only come back for one reason, their elder family members are sick and they need to be with them. Knowbody move to here because they want too, 'cept maybe some foreigners who don't know better

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Honest & for real, ya'll, whoever those folks were who claimed that there isn't a nursing shortage was telling a BIG story (a story is the southern term for a lie) :(

In my 8 years as a nurse, I've never seen a time when nurses weren't in high demand! As for the shortage, My sister-in-law & I saw it coming 4 years ago. I get postcards from hospitals in Nashville & from agencies frequently. We have a hospital in my area that offers $4,000 sign-on bonuses for their non-ICU staff & $5,000 for their ICU staff.

One of the reasons I left the ICU position I held in an area hospital was mandatory OT...it was built into the schedule. It is a common practice in my part of Tennessee. Part of why I'm not floor nursing on a full-time basis as well.

No matter what those administrators said, there is a shortage.

Arkansas is definately having a shortage. My hospital is offering $4000 sign-on for med-surg nurses. In the private hospital where I used to work, med-surg nurses had 12 pts on days. I tried to call report to a telemetry floor, the nurses started crying, she already had 17pts!!!!!! But the suits told us everything was fine. This was non-union. Arkansas is a "right-to work" state, which basically means that if you mention a union , you can be fired.

Shortage or no shortage- mandatory OT or not. Yes, there is a shortage. No, we don't have to do mandatory OT. So who fills in because we don't have enough of our own staff to work a busy emergency room? Agency nurses- who make $10.00 more an hour than we do- and nurses floated from another area when we can get them. And we work short. It absolutely sucks!

So tell me this- what is your hopsital doing to retain staff? I know that when we are short staffed I am thrilled to see agency walk in the door, but what incentive do they have to work staff? They get paid more, get a 401K, get to preschedule, work the days they want, 2 or 3 holidays a year. What happened to doing more for your loyal employees? I just don't get it.

Nursing shortage? You bet. Keep overworking and underpaying your nurses and you will see the shortage growing larger year by year.

Just a quick note form Oklahoma. The shortage is real. At the hospital where I work in the OKC area, we often have only three nurses on the 3-11 shift on the Oncology floor, a high-accuity area,and very often only 1 NA. Manditory overtime is a bad word here, but I've not been shy about telling The Powers That Be that when it comes to choice between my license and thier profit margin, my license will be my priority. Therefore, I often wind up staying over just to make sure all the bows are tied properly. Our unit is a 32 bed oncology unit and we are usually at 23 to30 pts. So, long story short, we don't have manditory overtime but often stay over anyway, staffing sucks, and mgt only cares about their bonuses and making that profit. As for those of us who stay on the floor as opposed to ICU and other critical care units, we stay because by Goddess, somebody has to! I'm too busy to checkin with what administrators are telling our state gvmt. (and too tired) and yes, that is not the way to get things changed. Perhaps someday when I don't have to work full time and am not too old I will get up and make my voice heard. From what I see in this state, mine will be a very lonely voice. Thanks for letting me vent. [email protected]

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Howdy yall

From deep in the heart of texas.

If as suggested thimgs are better in the south, nursing shortage wise, then Lord prevent me from ever becoming a yankee

ROFLMAO,TEEITUP!!!! :roll

Sent a letter of concern to my state ANA...no answer...am writing them again...my concerns will be addressed...

(Old Southern Saying...American by birth, Southern by the Grace of GOD!!!!)

Seems we are ALL in the same boat and these "representatives" are on a yacht...

They need to remember Marie Antoinette...she was also misinformed about the needs of "the people"...all she knew was her world within the palace... thus she felt everyone had food (adequate staffing),so " let them eat cake"(we have no problems with the nursing shortage in our southern states)...I am not suggesting "beheading" these poor misinformed educated idiots,but they need to open their eyes...

Perahaps it shoulds be mandatory that they work a certain number of shifts in their districts before they even ASSUME they can speak for those of us they claim to represent...

Keepin' it in the short grass...think I chipped that last shot!!!

LOL!!!!! Funny how it was southern nurses who suggested it!

NC nurses are not unionized. And the hospitals & other nursing facilities are CHRONICALLY understaffed. We feel the shortage.

Yeah, jt, just tickles the fire outta me that all those "Scarletts ''

("well, fiddle dee dee...nursing shortage? I'll think about that tomorrow...why we don't have a nursing shortage in the South,do we PaPa?) have decided they can speak about bedside issues that they either have extremely limited/ no knowledge of and can make such general statements about the bedside issues we face daily...I wonder what staffing numbers they used to substantiate their statements...not any I have seen lately...

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