Racism at Oakland University?

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In Dean Catherine Vincent's pediatric pathophysiology course, all of her white middle-class students did exceptionally well but a Mexican-American student in her class failed miserably. What was the reason for the minority student's failure? Could it be mere coincidence? It would not be the first time in history that a teacher handed out grades according to his/her racist beliefs. "Studies have reported faculty bias toward minority students in grading papers, judging clinical performance, and assessing written examinations" (Villarruel, Canales, & Torres, 2001). "Nurse educators need to acknowledge that, with a few exceptions, racism is endemic in our programs" (Barbee & Gibson, 2001).

What can be done when the faculty at Oakland University sides with Dean Vincent? Isn't it convenient that her exams are graded by hand affording her the opportunity to grade exams in any manner she pleases including racist ones?

Whites make up 86% of the registered nurse population. Despite the dramatic increase of Hispanics in the U.S., there has been no significant increase in the number of Hispanic nurses. I wonder what's keeping Hispanics out of nursing?

http://www.manuelsweb.com/vincent.htm

I just have to say be careful what you post here, Manuel. Some folks on this bb have been burned b/c of things that were posted here that others read. You never know who is reading. Seriously. If that dean sees this, and sees that you've posted those exams on your website and weren't supposed to, you could be kicked out of the school if it's a violation of an honor code or regulation.

You have a right to free speech to a point, yes, but I would seriously consider consulting a lawyer about what's posted here if you intend to pursue legal action. Some of it could be considered slander, even if it is true. Just watch your back. That's all I'm saying.

I feel in this day and age... this has little to do with color, race, creed or sex.... going over the threads in Nurse-zine alone would show anyone that some of us frequent certain threads more then others... regardless of our present, past or future life, regardless of color, race creed or sex.... it would be wrong to assume that any of the factors stated are an issue... I will mantian that a language barrier could be in place.

If there was such an injustice... ALL places in this day and age have an appropraite way and method to make greavences... and with that once completed and done in accordance to rules is still valid... then there is an appeal period... my question is if we are talking college and university here then there is something MISSING or not being told us on this thread....

I would hate to assume that some organizations are not allowing anyone for whatever reason to 'fail' another for 'whatever' the reason and I'm starting to wonder if there is more here then meets the eye...

I don't quite understand this post.

But I wanted to say "HI!" I wish I had more time to read this post and understand what's everyone's discussing. I'll come back and try to understand more.

I do know the Pediatric Profressor. She was a knowledgable instructor and I learned a lot from her. She was a tough instuctor but a good instructor. (If it's the same Professor Vincent that taught Pediatrics)

My class had 4-5 black ladies. And 4-5 white men. The remaining students were white ladies. (ages ranging from younger to older)

I currently work in Detroit. There's a lot of fellow workers that are all different races and gender.

I figured out where all the exams were.

I don't have much time as I previously said. But all the writing looks like my paperwork. I didn't excel in her class....it wasn't a racism thing for me. I'm very easily intimitated and I think that's my problem. I tell you....I've grown a lot since nursing school.

She's teaching in the Master's program now?? OMG I was thinking of getting my Master's...She does the pediatric portion?

Congratulations in getting into the Master's program!! Good luck!! I hope you graduate!!! :D

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

Manuel...I was the only Black nursing student in all of my clinical rotations and college nursing classes, and I graduated with a 3.4 GPA. I gave the studies all I could to the best of my brain power, and didn't allow my race to become a factor, even though there were a few touchy situations that I could have made a big deal out of. I tried to offer to my all white counterparts and all white instructors the best ME I could, just like I try to do in all walks of my life to everyone...regardless of their race, color, creed, or religion. I don't exist as a "race", but as a human being with much potential to offer society, family, and self. Give your work the best you can, and then you will have something to stand on when it comes into question. If you have had others review your exams and other work, and they see areas where you could have worked a little harder, or presented a more indepth response to the test's questions, then learn to accept that we aren't always going to be graded the way we think we should. A bad grade does hurt, but the ultimate outcome is are you giving it the best you can so when you graduate you will be able to say "Well done Manuel"? Sounds to me like you are being too hard on yourself in all the wrong ways. Are you? Are you a perfectionist who can't stand anything less than "A" grades? How is your self-esteem? Does this time in your life remind you of any other time in your life? Were you this way growing up as a child in school, too? I'm just throwing these thoughts at you to hopefully cause you to reflect on other rationales for why you are so hurt when you don't do well, to the point of you having to always focus on your race or skin color as the root of the problem. I wish you well in your endeavors in life, Manuel. (((hugs))) :)

Oh Renee.... sooooooo well said! I wish I had an applauding smiley!

Heather

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

:kiss Thank you, Heather! :)

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.
Originally posted by cheerfuldoer

Manuel...I was the only Black nursing student in all of my clinical rotations and college nursing classes, and I graduated with a 3.4 GPA. I gave the studies all I could to the best of my brain power, and didn't allow my race to become a factor, even though there were a few touchy situations that I could have made a big deal out of. I tried to offer to my all white counterparts and all white instructors the best ME I could, just like I try to do in all walks of my life to everyone...regardless of their race, color, creed, or religion.

That's very nice Renee, but how do you know that Manuel does NOT give the best of himself. Perhaps it was not your intention, but you make it sound as if someone who is a victim of racism, "allowed" it to happen.

I don't exist as a "race", but as a human being with much potential to offer society, family, and self.

That's nice.

Give your work the best you can, and then you will have something to stand on when it comes into question. If you have had others review your exams and other work, and they see areas where you could have worked a little harder, or presented a more indepth response to the test's questions, then learn to accept that we aren't always going to be graded the way we think we should. A bad grade does hurt, but the ultimate outcome is are you giving it the best you can so when you graduate you will be able to say "Well done Manuel"?
Good points.

Sounds to me like you are being too hard on yourself in all the wrong ways. Are you? Are you a perfectionist who can't stand anything less than "A" grades? How is your self-esteem? Does this time in your life remind you of any other time in your life? Were you this way growing up as a child in school, too? I'm just throwing these thoughts at you to hopefully cause you to reflect on other rationales for why you are so hurt when you don't do well, to the point of you having to always focus on your race or skin color as the root of the problem. I wish you well in your endeavors in life, Manuel. (((hugs))) :)

That wasn't quite fair was it? Where did Manuel indicate that race or skin color is always a problem in his life? Isn't it possible that he has actually had to deal with racism in his life and he isn't using it(racism) as some excuse? Whenever someone is victimized in this way, there is often this patronizing attitude toward the victim that he/she is "allowing" themselves to be victimized as if he/she is just supposed to buck that crap and pretend as if didn't happen, or they are just "playing the race card" and you're the one with a problem. It's another form of blame the victim. As a Black woman, you should know better.

Cheerfuldoer:

Thanks for all of your insight. Getting your perspective as a minority nurse means a lot to me.

Askater11:

Thanks for sharing your personal experience about Dean Vincent. I'm glad you had a positive experience with her. Yes. She does teach the graduate and undergraduate peds.

Sandstormdust:

Their is no language barrier. I do have a slight accent. I have taken every recourse through the school of nursing. I have appealed to have my grade changed and lost. I could make a complaint of racism through the Office of Cultural Diversity. Please openly state what it is you think I am hiding.

Everyone:

Thanks for all your input. It is more than I hoped to imagine. It has forced me to reassess the situation, but I stand with my gut reaction and the web page stays. Creating it also helped get me past delving on the issue.

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

You are more than welcome, Manuel. :) As long as you were able to comprehend what I shared with you, that's all that truly matters. Please feel free to send me a "PM" if I can be of any further help to you, or you simply need a listening ear to talk to. God bless you and may you continue to thrive in your nursing career and everything else you do. (((HUGS))) :kiss

Originally posted by SharonMH31

.....there is often this patronizing attitude toward the victim that he/she is "allowing" themselves to be victimized as if he/she is just supposed to buck that crap and pretend as if didn't happen, or they are just "playing the race card" and you're the one with a problem. It's another form of blame the victim. As a Black woman, you should know better.

As another Black woman, you sound like you have a problem with anyone offering a different point of view. Being a Black woman, I didn't see Renee's post as being patronizing. But, maybe some of us come from the "old school" and don't blame "Whitey" for every thing wrong that comes our way. Maybe some of us have learned to rise above race issues and excel despite anything that comes our way. Maybe some of us have stopped being victims and act as proud SURVIVORS. MAYBE some of us ARE high achievers and need to hear that just because we are minorities we do not have to strive for perfection ALL the time - we can be human TOO. Being a HUMAN, you should know better.

I just find it hard to believe that this thread is still alive.

-Russell

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