Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's - page 82
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Aug 25, '08It's not unbelievable at all in my personal experience. The only thing that I find shocking is that Americans are so dead-set against universal healthcare. It's simply illogical that the average uninsured or underinsured citizen would fear having healthcare for all Americans.
And by the way, when is the last time you had to have work done on your teeth? Even with insurance, I can't afford the bridgework and root canals that were prescribed for me 10 years ago.
I'd take an increase in taxes over my $150/month premiums anytime, especially if I knew that when a medicine was ordered, I didn't have to refuse to fill the script because my insurance didn't cover it.
I'd take a delay in treatment over no treatment at all anytime.
And, BTW, I have had THREE patients just this past week alone who were admitted with rebounding HTN and chest pain because they couldn't afford their medications. Three. In one week. All because of the perfect storm of fixed incomes, budget cuts, and rising cost of living.
It's only gonna get worse folks. I look at it this way: the fatcats in Washington are blowing our healthcare dollars in fighting the wrong war.
Aug 25, '08IMO, if MM wanted to show you how BAD socialized medicine was instead of how good it was, he could create just as much shock effect going that way too. I think its a grey area and of course the system is in need of reform. Personally I would be all for universal healthcare if resources would be utilized in a better fashion than now. For example, myself and a co-worker went through each patient on our 16 bed unit. Out of all patients, only one is what we would call 'viable.' ONE!! It sounds heartless, but quit spending billions of dollars on dead people! This is just my experience and I would love to hear how others see how healthcare dollars are wasted in other areas. Also, another documentary "the business of being born" shows how midwives are being pushed out and insurances wont cover them, but heck, how much cheaper is that?!?! Why should ALL women come to the hospital and get drugs they dont need when a midwife can give them adequate care at HOME? Spending money on this crap is rediculous.
Aug 25, '08Quote from AngelfireRNCheck his website. He has independent verifications posted about the patients he profiled.I wondered if it was at all true. Seemed pretty fantastic. That's why I asked. It's 1 in the morning, all my synapses may not be firing. Thanks.
Aug 25, '08Quote from FionaSophiaIts good as long as you can pay for your care....(Or have one of the ever shrinking jobs that offer good family care.)20 20 did a counter interview with michael moore, he refused to answer a lot of questions about the exaggerated and misleading aspects of his film. My eyes and ears are open but the bttom line is, I am glad to be an american and if I am going to be sick someplace, please let it be here.
Aug 25, '08Quote from gregmclbased on what???? the commonwealth fund actually has found that other countries have both better access to care and better health statistics overall from a population standpoint.bradley, i am almost certain it is way exaggerated. he came up with good stories about adequate healthcare recv'd in other countries and hardly a negative comment about people dying on lists while being treated in a country with socialized medicine. if i had the money, i would make a counter film to sicko and find tons of people who are receiving excellent healthcare in this country without the red tape, and people losing body parts to infection in other countries. i am almost certain his film is very exaggerated
and what waiting times?
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Aug 25, '08I guess from reading these posts McCain will be the next President of the United States. He is for Universal Healthcare. I always thought nurses were Democrats.
Aug 26, '08People don't want universal health care because we don't want a 20% increase in taxes to pay for it. We don't want to pay for Nancy Pelosis's constituents to have sex change operations. We don't want to pay for health care for illegal aliens. Perhaps if you liberals started to have to foot the bill for these things your attitudes would change. I guarantee all of you want universal heath care but none of you want to pay for it. When everyone pays the additional $1000/month per person in your family that this entitilement will cost then I want to hear how great you think universal health care is. Liberals are long on lip service but short on proividing the capital to fund these grand tax schemes.
Aug 26, '08Does Michael Moore doctor in Cuba or the U.S.? Nuff said.
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Aug 26, '08CRNA,
Perhaps if you liberals started to have to foot the bill for these things your attitudes would change.all of you want universal heath care but none of you want to pay for it.
Liberals are long on lip service but short on proividing the capital to fund these grand tax schemes.
Instead of attacking everyone who doesn't agree with you, why not suggest a viable alternative?
Aug 26, '08Quote from blondy2061hExcuse me!!!It's over exaggerated and pretty inaccurate. An ER can't forcefully remove someone- EMTLA. I seriously wonder where Moore came up with these stories.
Michael Moore's sources were thoroughly checked by several media networks and found to be absolutely accurate. Federal Law states that ED patients who are stableized may be discharged at will.
There was a 20/20 report about that, as well as 60 minutes program validating the film's information. Write them for a copy of those programs, and see the truth. The above post is conjecture!