A Call to Action from the Nation's Nurses in the Wake of Newtown - page 17

Reposting from PSNA Communications email. Karen A Call to Action from the Nation's Nurses in the Wake of Newtown More Than 30 Nursing Organizations Call for Action in Wake of Newtown Tragedy ... Read More

  1. by   workingharder
    To InfirmiereJolie,
    What I've seen of these posts are disagreements with your position (and your writing style). Some of the posts were worded in, let's say, frank ways. I really, truly don't see much name calling or insulting remarks in the above list. I know, that's just my perception.

    However. What I do wonder about is how you are going to handle adverse or abrupt disagreement when you enter into the real world of nursing. I will guarantee, you will receive far harsher verbiage in the workplace. There will be strong differences of opinion on the floor from Nurses, Techs, Management and Physicians, as well as Patients and Family. As a working nurse you will have to expect, accept and also embrace it.
    You have strong opinions and the willingness to do research to back up those opinions. I salute you for that. I once had very set in stone opinions about certain ideas and ideals, but with the passing of years I've come to realize that the world has very few issues that are black and white. Most are shaded in gray.
    Take the differing opinions as a sign that, perhaps others have logical reasoning on their side also.
    Remember, the world is a dialogue, not a monologue.
    I really do wish you well.
  2. by   NRSKarenRN
    I have been trying to keep to keep this thread open for its an important topic: preventing gun violence, especially in the schools.
    Posts/threads have been edited to confirm to our Terms Of Service:

    We promote the idea of lively debate. This means you are free to disagree with anyone on any type of subject matter as long as your criticism is constructive and polite. Additionally, please refrain from name-calling. This is divisive, rude, and derails the thread.

    Our first priority is to the members that have come here because of the flame-free atmosphere we provide. There is a zero-tolerance policy here against personal attacks. We will not tolerate anyone insulting other's opinion nor name calling.
    Our call is to be supportive, not divisive.
    Further divisive posting will result in permanent closure.
  3. by   herring_RN
    Statement from APHA Executive Director Dr. Georges C. Benjamin in response to events Friday, Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn.


    And a letter:
    The American Public Health Association expressed its strong support for action to "protect our nation's children and their families from the growing epidemic of gun violence" in a letter sent today to President Barack Obama.

    "Gun violence is one of the leading causes of preventable death in our country and we must take a comprehensive public health approach to addressing this growing crisis," wrote APHA Executive Director Georges Benjamin, MD. "For too long, we as a nation have failed to take on this devastating problem in our communities, and we can wait no longer."

    Benjamin strongly supported the president's leadership in "developing a comprehensive public health approach to reducing gun violence in our nation," and outlined several key steps as part of such a plan, including:

    • adopting common sense gun control legislation such as reinstating the federal ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and closing the "gun show loophole," which exempts private sellers of firearms from conducting criminal background checks on buyers at gun shows;
    • expanding the collection and analysis of data related to gun violence and other violent deaths to better understand the causes and allow authorities to develop appropriate interventions to prevent such violence; and
    • ensuring adequate funding for critical mental health services, and ensuring that the Affordable Care Act provides comprehensive coverage for mental health and substance abuse disorder services as part of the law's essential health benefits.

  4. by   22gawhitacre
    Are gun free signs on schools a common sense approach? Was midnight basketball a common sense approach to deterring crime? Let's have some common sense reforms on free speech and freedom of the press. How about some common sense reform on entitlements?

    Quote from herring_RN
    Statement from APHA Executive Director Dr. Georges C. Benjamin in response to events Friday, Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn.

    APHA: Statement from APHA Executive Director Dr. Georges C. Benjamin in response to events Friday, Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn.

    And a letter:
  5. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from herring_RN
    I think there should be a school nurse in every school.
    Yes! That is something I could get behind. Also something appropiate for a nursing organization to be advocating for.
  6. by   NRSKarenRN
    American Psychiatric Nurses Association Calls for Increased Access to Mental Health Care to Prevent Tragic Loss of Life
    Falls Church, VA
    December 20, 2012
    ...“As psychiatric mental health nurses, we are on the front lines in helping individuals deal with the traumas resulting from such senseless acts of violence. We are also aware of how mental health services can help identify and intervene with individuals who are at risk for such violent behaviors.” says APNA President Beth Phoenix, PhD, RN, CNS. “To paraphrase the UNESCO Charter, ‘Since violence begins in the minds of men, it is in the minds of men that the defenses of peace must be constructed.’ Expanding the availability of services that prevent mental disorders and provide effective treatment for those that cannot be prevented is essential in ‘constructing the defenses of peace’ in our communities.”

    APNA applauds the American Nurses Association for speaking out about this tragedy and has signed onto their letter that identifies measures aimed at preventing such tragedies in our communities. This letter urges policymakers at all levels to:

    • Restore access to mental health services for individuals and families
    • Increase students’ access to nurses and mental health professionals from the elementary
    school level through college
    • Ban assault weapons and enact other meaningful gun control reforms to protect society

    According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health: Mental Health Findings (2010), about 20% of American adults suffered from a mental illness during 2010. However, only about 13% of American adults received treatment for mental illness and 19% of those who did receive treatment still reported having experienced an unmet mental health need during that year. These numbers serve to underline the dire need for better access to mental health treatment. While horrific acts of violence such as the recent shootings are widely covered in the media, the tragic loss of tens of thousands of lives to suicide each year is an often hidden consequence of untreated mental illness.

    Recently, cutbacks within schools and community health care systems have impeded critical access to school nurses and mental health professionals, such as psychiatric mental health nurses, who are trained to recognize and intervene early with those at risk for violent or self-harming behavior. These cuts have been exacerbated during the recent recession. At the same time, the demand for mental health services for all populations, including our nation’s veterans, has been increasing. ...

    October 31, 2011 Ball State Univ. Study:
    Psychiatric nurses need training to reduce gun related suicides ..

    Psychiatric nurses could play a role in preventing firearm suicides and homicides among the mentally ill, but few receive training on this issue, says a new study from Ball State University.

    "Graduate Psychiatric Nurses' Training on Firearm Injury Prevention" found that in spite of the concrete recommendations from American Psychiatric Nursing Association, only 9.4 percent of psychiatric nursing programs in the U.S. reported training their students to look for signs that patients might shoot themselves or someone else, said study co-author Jagdish Khubchandani, a community health education professor in the university's Global Health Institute and Department of Physiology and Health Science.

    This study is a part of a series conducted by Khubchandani and his colleagues, examining efforts by medical education to reduce firearm trauma. Their research has found that 80 to 90 percent of firearm suicides and homicides are committed by people with a mental health need. ...
  7. by   Overland1
    Quote from Statement from APHA Executive Director Dr. Georges C. Benjamin in response to events Friday, Dec. 14 in Newtown, Conn

    "Gun violence is one of the leading causes of preventable death in our country and we must take a comprehensive public health approach to addressing this growing crisis," wrote APHA Executive Director Georges Benjamin, MD. "For too long, we as a nation have failed to take on this devastating problem in our communities, and we can wait no longer."
    Somewhat eloquent, but statistically wrong, and yet another example of Mr. Emanuel's advice (i.e., not letting a good crisis go to waste). I am not really amazed anymore at the wrong information that keeps coming out and is being repeated about gun violence lately. The stuff grows more legs every hour as people see something offered by a so-called authority (often a politician or somebody connected to one) and repeat it as though it was true.

    The advice we should follow is not that of Mayor Emanuel, but rather that of Mr. Thomas J. Watson, Sr... a gentleman I surmise almost nobody here has heard of ("Google" the name, please). His advice is simple:

    "All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think."
    Incidentally, when he said this, the term "men" was used to include all people in a generic sense - Watson was not a sexist and he had no binders full of women.
  8. by   VivaLasViejas
    Improving access to mental health services---especially for our youth---and taking psychiatric disorders at least as seriously as physical disease would not stop violence, but it might help prevent the development of violent tendencies that usually begin in childhood. As studies have shown, many people who commit serious crimes as adults suffered some sort of trauma in early life, leading to difficult behaviors and often progressing to fighting and defiance of authority as they grow older; later, they begin to self harm and/or hurt small animals, which all too frequently leads to violence against other humans. Professional intervention with a child in the early stages of this process would almost certainly reduce the number of these incidences and hopefully prevent future tragedies......but it also takes an educated society and the cooperation of parents, both of which are sadly lacking today.
  9. by   tewdles
    Our health industry decided years ago that there was no value in funding mental health care...
    We essentially de-funded community programs in the early 80s.
    Insurance companies are not interested in providing the type of comprehensive coverage that is necessary if we are going to minimize the danger that some of these citizens can represent when untreated.

    What I do know is this, taking my gun will not make it difficult or impossible for the crazy guy to steal his grandpa's gun and kill people.
    Identifying the crazy guy and providing him with reasonable mental health care makes it less likely that he will harm someone.

    Sorry for the insensitive use of the term "crazy"...
  10. by   Sterling-RN
    First of all, I don't agree that the NRA isn't protecting the 2nd amendment, but even if that were true why are you assuming that an organization protecting "GUN MANUFACTURERS" is so horrible? We have unions that protect automobile manufacturing industry workers, government bailouts to the Auto and other industries, yet have you seen the data on automobile related deaths, vehicular homocide. drunk driving? You don't have to be mentally ill to kill someone behind the wheel, either. It seems odd to me that villianizing manufacturing is your answer to these mass shootings. If the shooter had a couple rifles or handguns, do you think the outcome would have been different?

    So then shall we ban ALL guns? Or just the high capacity ones? It seems to me that even 1 handgun in the hands of a these school shooters would have a devistating impact. Where does it end?

    Shall we ban alcohol again? There is plenty of data that links alcohol use to domesting violence, assault, rape, murder. Banning a thing because, in your enlightened view, it's something "AVERAGE, civilians don't need access to" does NOTHING to address the real issue. That if someone wants to kill a person or a group of people, he will not need to do it with a gun, and if he wants to, he will secure one (or more) REGARDLESS if bans are present or not. Furthermore, he doesn't need to have automatic or semi-automatic guns to terrorize a community.

    So let's put your crusade into practice: How many deaths occur due to drunk driving? How many lives has Crack-Cocaine, heroine or Methamphetamine destroyed? Maybe another ban or law will help here? I think not. It's just more empty action that will do nothing...more nothing...more nothing.

    Moving to support yet another ban on those who would be going through a normal, legal process to secure firearms is going to be as effective against gun related violence/homicide as moving to support yet another law against drunk driving or alcohol or drug abuse. The criminals will STILL get access.
  11. by   HM-8404
    I recently read a news article that stated Brazil has perhaps the most strict gun laws of any country, but yet their murder by firearm rate is 5 times higher than that of the US, per capita. Everyone knows laws such as these don't work. People just like to tell themselves they did something.
  12. by   anotherone
    just like there is the right to carry q gun there should be right to refuse mental health treatment and there is until person is already a danger. that wont help anyway , imo. if we want a country where guns are legal you have to excpect and accept this to occur