Nurses Eating Their Young- A Different Perspective

We all have heard it before. Nurses eat their young. We all have complained about it and people tell us "oh no, don't do that." Simple fact is that it happens, and I will try to explain to you why it does happen and why it is not always a bad thing. Nurses Announcements Archive Knowledge

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Nurses eat their young. It happens and people complain about it like it is a bad thing. It may be in your eyes if you are the one being eaten, but in my eyes I am going to eat you alive and spit out your bones into something that resembles a nurse. You are entering the cauldron of fire, so expect to get singed.

That above statement is already setting some of you on edge. I understand that and I accept that. I felt the same way at first, but as the years have passed by I have learned why we do it and more importantly, the reason. Let me explain to you why in a way that is not nursing.

Imagine if you are a soldier ... Lets take it from there

  1. Patient = fire team
  2. Pilot = Nurse Practitioner
  3. Officers = management
  4. Your squad mates = your fellow nurses with more experience
  5. Enemy = death
  6. MD = (sometimes the enemy) a fellow service member form another branch

You enlisted in the service, you passed basic training (nursing school) and now you are ready to join your unit. ( I know I skipped AIT, for those military among us) You show up on the bus all excited and happy to be chosen for this special unit. It is everything you wanted, it is just where you wanted to be. Great, happy to have you aboard, now get out the salt and pepper, or maybe the opposite is true. You do not want to be here, but rather this is the only place you could get to right now.

Fine, get out the salt and pepper

Be prepared to be eaten. I am your new squad Sargent. I am there to help you get acclimated to the unit and the patrols as FAST AS I CAN. You show up in your new shiny uniforms, new boots and the new weapons (ie: stethoscope, tablet, etc) and look around you and see the older squad mates' uniforms are faded, they may even be a bit tattered, our combat boots may not be shiny, heck they may even be a bit soiled. But you know what, to us your uniform looks uncomfortable on you and those ugly boots we are wearing, they are like a second skin to us and those new ones you got are going to blister your feet. We accept that and realize that with age your boots are going to get broken in and your uniform will fade. Just don't point out to us how yours is better or newer. New does not always mean better, sometimes our weapons that you think are old and stupid are the ones that never fail in combat. You start out like that and I will eat you so hard right there that you will wish you were never born. Your old Drill instructors (nursing instructors) have nothing on me in making you feel small if I choose to.

I introduce you to your squad mates and I show you around

I know you are new and do not know where everything is, but LISTEN to me when I am talking to you and pointing things out. I know it is a lot of information to digest, but it may save your life and your fire mission's life if you listen. I expect you to ask me questions, but think about the question first. Did I already answer it? Did I not just show you where the supply tent was? Did I not point out where to keep your gear? Did I not show you how to reload your gun or program in the fire coordinates on the fire control computer? I probably did and if you keep asking I am going to start to wonder about you and think maybe you are going to get me killed or the fire team killed.

Time for your first patrol

The officers come by and gives us our mission. We need to work as a team to complete it, there are no Rambos in our unit. Accept the mission, I will be there to help guide you and keep you alive, for now. I do not want the fire mission to fail at all costs. When I feel you are strong enough to do more of the mission on your own, I am going to let you, whether you think you are not.

So now we go into the field for combat against the enemy. I know you learned all these supposedly fancy new ways of combating them, but the enemy doesn't always react the way you were taught it would. Things are different in the field, than in the classroom. Don't tell me how to do something unless I am asking you how it is done the new way. Listen to me how to set up an ambush. I have been fighting these battles many years and I am still alive. Don't look above at the pilots flying around doing their thing while we are in the trenches and say you would rather be there. It takes time to learn to fly, and I skin you and filet you alive if you think you are better than the rest of your squad mates. If you express an interest in learning to fly, I will be happy to help you get to the point you can learn to fly. I want all my squad mates to succeed, because the fire mission will then succeed.

I am going to jump on you during the training I give you, I am going to eat you up, I am going to speak bad of you, I am going to report on you to the officers. I will make your life miserable for a while. I may not let you take lunch with your buddies from basic who are now in an another unit in your command. They may have their own mission to conduct, or our mission is going badly. Sometimes I may make you work extra hard helping another soldier out, who is up to their butt in crocodiles. I am also going to praise you when you need it, but don't count on it very often. I am going to ride your butt so hard, you are going to wonder why you even enlisted. You are going to think I am unfair, that I am trying to get you killed, that I am giving you too big of missions at times, but know this. AT ALL COSTS THE FIRE TEAM MUST DO THEIR BEST! Sometimes we don't win all the battles and death does come for the mission. we accept that and expect you to accept it and pick yourself up and carry on soldier. The time to grieve is later in private when it fails, but know this; we old eat their young and are also grieving about the loss, but realize there are other missions we are needed on at that moment.

My Goal

My goal in eating you up is to toughen you up so that you may lead other soldiers in combat and save the fire missions, maybe even help you get to be a pilot or an officer, which not all of us want. Some of us were previous officers but decided we liked the trenches with the blood and guts and muck better. My goal is to see you succeed and carry on our legacy and eventually replace me when I fall. Which one day I will fall and become a distant memory. Until that moment I am going to eat you up and spit out your bones into proud strong self reliant Nurse. That is why eating our young is not a bad thing.

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Babies? You mean grown women/men who are nurses?

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Babies? You mean grown women/men who are nurses?

Babies is a term used similarly as gamers use the word "newbie" or "noob". My instructor uses it, but it's a term of endearment.

Babies is a term used similarly as gamers use the word "newbie" or "noob". My instructor uses it, but it's a term of endearment.

Yep.

Like Mama duck being the designated preceptor in a setting. Cute and strangely appropriate haha.

Babies = "young", as in the OPs reference to eating young... the opposite of nurturing. Also, many a clinical instructor calls their students "babies".

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Babies is a term used similarly as gamers use the word "newbie" or "noob". My instructor uses it, but it's a term of endearment.

But this is where, to me, some people can play on that and make it a hinderance to their learning process and get this idea that someone is picking on them, when the reality is that they are not.

We're adults; in this business you (the collective YOU that need to understand this) will need your big people pants on; we face the sickest of the sick in their most vulnerable and at times the grimiest of states; it's not the people who are teaching you that are being "mean" or "eating" you; those pts and family members are the ones that will want to rip a new one or WORSE; for those who fear or think negatively about my "bat"; I had to get one figuratively for the benefit my pts and have the ability to do my job competently and safely; can't do that when cowering in a corner, fearing a pt who wants to rip you a new one when they are scared, or when the provider wants the information and you forget SBAR or you need to stay calm and respond appropriately to inappropriate comments with a factual comeback. Or find you voice when there is an inappropriate pt and let them know that their behavior is inappropriate.

I have endured plenty of these issues with an even tempered "bat". ;)

It had kept me from flaming out of this business and has helped me enjoy it immensely; my bat swinging hasn't affected my peer relationships, made me the go to for difficult pts, and each difficult provider has learned to give me the UPMOST respect.

I have mentored "babies" that lost that "baby" moniker within a shift or two, because they realized the reality of the responsibility that they faced; there are a percentage that don't and will never understand that, unfortunately. :no:

Nursing is a hard role and in no way should we "baby" anyone. But let the situations break-in our young, inexperienced or even not-from-our-unit personnel. Step in when a patient's care is in question, take your lumps when you stepped in where you shouldn't have. We have a nurse on another blog FREAKING OUT because she made a mistake on a lab sample (not life threatening) and some of you on here seem to enjoy the thought of eating/ domineering over each other. Kudos to the rest of us who see the folly in high stress work environments.

Specializes in Telemetry, IMCU.
Nursing is a hard role and in no way should we "baby" anyone. But let the situations break-in our young, inexperienced or even not-from-our-unit personnel. Step in when a patient's care is in question, take your lumps when you stepped in where you shouldn't have. We have a nurse on another blog FREAKING OUT because she made a mistake on a lab sample (not life threatening) and some of you on here seem to enjoy the thought of eating/ domineering over each other. Kudos to the rest of us who see the folly in high stress work environments.

Who said anything about "babying" anyone? It's a term of endearment. Hearing a clinical instructor say : " I'm so proud, my babies passed Cardio. " Sounds a hell of a whole lot better than just silence. She isn't treating them/us like babies, but it's better than having domineering, rude instructors.

I don't know the term. My instructors did not call us babies. And we don't call the newbies babies. We call them newbies, lol.

I am a newbie right now, too.

This article is more directed at inter-personnel behavior called "horizontal violence". When an individual attempts to bully others who are new in some way or they just don't like them. I've seen it sink too many ships and it just takes that one unhappy person who feels like s/he needs more control. You can see it happening right here on this blog.

You can also see a lot of support on this blog. The nurse who is FREAKING about the lab error? Read the responses to her. There is more support here than not.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Nursing is a hard role and in no way should we "baby" anyone. But let the situations break-in our young, inexperienced or even not-from-our-unit personnel. Step in when a patient's care is in question, take your lumps when you stepped in where you shouldn't have. We have a nurse on another blog FREAKING OUT because she made a mistake on a lab sample (not life threatening) and some of you on here seem to enjoy the thought of eating/ domineering over each other. Kudos to the rest of us who see the folly in high stress work environments.

I can only speak for myself and what I interpret, but more often on this thread we agree with what you are saying.

If you see the responses on that post, it is of support; so let's not mistaken being direct and making sure there is a standard of care into what goes wrong due to a system error; those are two TOTALLY different subjects; the OP in the other post had her standard of care compromised due to a system and management failure; to insinuate that she was "broken" because of her mistake to me states that your viewpoint of having a standard of care should be non-existent, which I will not make that assumption; although you response seems that you have glossed over the thread instead of analyzing the responses of that thread; again, two different threads altogether.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
You can also see a lot of support on this blog. The nurse who is FREAKING about the lab error? Read the responses to her. There is more support here than not.

THIS.

It seems people want to see what they want to see, and read into a tone that they don't see; I find when one approaches a conversation, they should be coming in objectively, but oh, well, I guess whatever fuels their fire. :cool: