2 nurses arrested in CA.....

Rustyhammer · Sep 23, 2003

Originally posted by passing thru
...the patient WAS dying...............

Unfortunately the public will not view it that way, nor should they really. The fact is they acted beyond their scope of practice and wheather or not they actually CAUSED this poor mans death is irrelevent. Also, another bad mark for nurses in the public eye.

-R

sharann, BSN, RN · Sep 23, 2003

My mother made sure to tell me about this, she heard it on the news tonight. She said "You wouldn't do something like that, would you?". Sheesh. 34 years old and she still wants to teach me how to behave. I feel saddened by this story. I understand that we all have been in the place where we NEED to give a med, but HAVE to wait for the order, which we are sure the doc will approve...and yet, by the grace of god go I....

jnette, ASN, EMT-I · Sep 23, 2003

Originally posted by sharann
My mother made sure to tell me about this, she heard it on the news tonight. She said "You wouldn't do something like that, would you?". Sheesh. 34 years old and she still wants to teach me how to behave.....

...sorry, this just made me chuckle. Heard my own mom verbalize the SAME thing over the phone during our usual weekend call...and I'm all of 54, my friend !

"Sheeny.. you wouldn't do somesing like dis, would you?"

"No Mutti, I wouldn't do dis"......... :rolleyes:

It IS tragic all the way around, for all parties concerned. I'm with Rusty... let us look to their mistake and learn from it.

katscan · Sep 24, 2003

Wow, a mistake in a half minute, a lifetime of regret!! We should all step back and remind ourselves that NO ONE can protect our licenses better than ourselves. Do not EVER say "just this once" because you never know what will happen.

mafiacarx · Sep 24, 2003

they probably were tired of being cussed out:rolleyes:

Teshiee · Sep 24, 2003

So because he expired earlier and they didn't call the MD their rears are in a sling! That is sad. I hate to call MD's sometimes but you know what that is what they are paid to do. If they have a wild hair up their azz so be it at least you will have your license longer.

Rninla · Jan 28, 2004

What all the stories neglect to tell you is that she did continually try to call the doctor several times through the night asking for orders for sedation for the combative patient but continually came up against a brick wall when she was trying to the patients advocate. To all the nurses who have replyed to to this discussion saying that they have never given a mediacation without an order...can you honestly say that ever time you gave tylenol when a patient spiked a temp. they called the doctor.

Rninla · Jan 28, 2004

What all the stories neglect to tell you is that she did continually try to call the doctor several times through the night asking for orders for sedation for the combative patient but continually came up against a brick wall when she was trying to the patients advocate. To all the nurses who have replyed to to this discussion saying that they have never given a mediacation without an order...can you honestly say that ever time you gave tylenol when a patient spiked a temp. they called the doctor.

Quailfeather · Jan 30, 2004

Here is a news update on the case. I am surprised that these nurses thought that it would be OK to take Diprivan out of one patient's IV and give it as an IV push, no less, to another patient. At my hospital, nurses are not allowed to give Diprivan by IV push, only an anesthesiologist can administer it by that route.

http://www.nbc4.tv/health/2798169/detail.html

They were definitely acting out of their scope of practice and should be held accountable.

ChicagolandRN · Jan 30, 2004

What all the stories neglect to tell you is that she did continually try to call the doctor several times through the night asking for orders for sedation for the combative patient but continually came up against a brick wall when she was trying to the patients advocate.

I can understand the frustration, but wasn't there a house doc? How about one of the consults?

marshalbc77 · Jan 30, 2004

What I don't understand is. Why are their RN License still showing "Active" in BON

(California)

Speculating · Jan 30, 2004

Originally posted by sanakruz
ARRESTED- ????

I'm with Noney- This is hardly a criminal matter, unless the individual in question CROAKED!
Show me the Link!

I think the criminal matter isn't that they gave him something. The criminal matter is what they gave. There are a certain amount of things I can give per certain MD's mostly the OTC stuff ( mind you this isn't all Dr's. I would do this with) and they would rather you give it than call at 3am. Nobody wants to be woke up for tylenol - sounds to me like they gave a narc.