Meeting AHPRA requirements as a International Trained Nurse from the Philippines

[Silverdragon102]

New thread discussing meeting APHRA requirements if trained in the Philippines.

Resources

Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA)

International registration / Nurses / Home - Nursing Council of New Zealand

Part 1 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

Part 2 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

I have started a thread in the Immigration for Immigration requirements for Australia/New Zealand

[markgian]

Hi to all aspiring AU RN's. It's been a while. Just got my PR to God alone be the Glory! Keep working towards your goals, plan ahead, and dont' be discouraged. I planned on going to Au even before AHPRA convened in 2010 if I' m not mistaken. My advise to you would be to have at least 36 months of paid nursing experience to even consider AU as a career destination. You will be competing for jobs with nurses having 8-10 years of experience in various fields and jobs have been hard to come by these days especially if you are looking for working visa sponsorship. Don't rush. If you have less than 3 years of experience, I suggest you weigh your options, make back-up plans and don't jump into all this without thinking about all possible scenarios. It is not impossible to finish the BP,get your license but still fail to landa job. Most of all, ask our Lord Jesus Christ for guidance, provision and strength. SOli Deo Gloria!

[official02]

As for me, if you have money then go for one year BN. Why? It's a DEGREE unlike bridging which is non-award, no qualification whatsoever. Moreover, it may help you find a job immediately after graduation because while doing the degree, you may be working as AIN or PCA, your employer may sponsor you as RN afterwards. Although, that's very debatable and depends on different circumstances. However, remember that one year degree will not give you extra points towards PR or would make your stay (visa wise) longer.

But then again, you already have an onoing AHPRA application. I know it's very frustrating and very disappointing. Why not wait a little more?

My relatives in Australia and some of my friends always tell me to gain experience, gain some more years, wait 'till you get 5 years exp. I always wanted to do BP eversince 2011. I thought they just don't want me there. Haha. Today, I'm almost on my fifth year as a nurse here in our country. Maybe, just maybe, their advices would really be beneficial.

[markgian]

As for me, if you have money then go for one year BN. Why? It's a DEGREE unlike bridging which is non-award, no qualification whatsoever. Moreover, it may help you find a job immediately after graduation because while doing the degree, you may be working as AIN or PCA, your employer may sponsor you as RN afterwards. Although, that's very debatable and depends on different circumstances. However, remember that one year degree will not give you extra points towards PR or would make your stay (visa wise) longer.

But then again, you already have an onoing AHPRA application. I know it's very frustrating and very disappointing. Why not wait a little more?

My relatives in Australia and some of my friends always tell me to gain experience, gain some more years, wait 'till you get 5 years exp. I always wanted to do BP eversince 2011. I thought they just don't want me there. Haha. Today, I'm almost on my fifth year as a nurse here in our country. Maybe, just maybe, their advices would really be beneficial.

Can you clarify about the bridging program as being a non-qualification? After the BP you become a Div1 Nurse which sounds to me as a qualification. 457 visa sponsorship is also not very viable as compared to 3-4 years ago. I have applied on numerous accounts wherein the employers would discourage non-PR/non-citizens from applying. Well circumstances differ fore each of us though. Experienced nurses are highly valued in Au so that the more years you have worked, the higher your pay grade will be.

[official02]

Can you clarify about the bridging program as being a non-qualification? After the BP you become a Div1 Nurse which sounds to me as a qualification. 457 visa sponsorship is also not very viable as compared to 3-4 years ago. I have applied on numerous accounts wherein the employers would discourage non-PR/non-citizens from applying. Well circumstances differ fore each of us though. Experienced nurses are highly valued in Au so that the more years you have worked, the higher your pay grade will be.

Categorically, school qualification.

No degree. No diploma. Not even a Grad Cert. Just a way to be registered in Australia.

You cannot say, "Hey UK, I did bridging program, register me!" In a real world, it's not a thing to brag about. It is not recognized as a qualification against AQF. IMHO, it's a 20/10 against pain scale when you compare the price to something that is a non-award.

[official02]

Credit to the poster:

"The new model requires that the education institution where you studied be externally accredited during the period your program of study was undertaken (criterion 2) and that your program of study is accredited by the relevant nursing and/or midwifery regulatory body (criterion 3).

We are in the process of determining whether the national accreditation of education institutions and professional accreditation of nursing and midwifery programs of study in Spain meet the National Board’s requirements for criteria 2 and 3.

The National Board is aware that Spain’s accreditation processes may differ from those described in criteria 2 and 3 and, as a matter of priority, is conducting additional research to establish whether Spain still meets the requirements. As soon as these matters have been resolved, your registration officer will notify you of the outcome and how it may be relevant to your application. "

Oh, dear AHPRA, how long is your research? And how long will you mock on our lives?

And oh dear CHED, PRC-BON, Alma Mater, please make us proud! Hahahaha

[jmolina1985]

Wow.... that's like slapping Spain in the face. I wonder what is it they are looking for? A golden certificate with a kiss mark from Angela Merkel herself and the official seal of the queen to ascertain that Spain is part of the European Union? It's not about the curriculum anymore but the country's own independent protocol?

And what of AHPRA's / NMBA's ability to conduct such research?

[kronick]

Is this an option?

Do the Bridging program in NZ - since Nursing Council has shorter processing times.

After getting a RN license in NZ, apply to AHPRA for a license in Australia.

any thoughts?

[jmolina1985]

@Kronik: not exactly sure. One of my former colleagues in the PH migrated to NZ via her family. She did a course, I am not sure if that was NZ BP but she did manage to have it recognized in Aus. I am not sure if trans tasman works for NZ Reg or NZ degree or NZ PR. Perhaps one of the more experienced Admins / Guides can help in that matter but try to look up the trans tasman agreement for nurses.

To anyone reading member or non-member: I'd like to make an appeal. Would you please share with the forum if you receive your LOE as well as your processing time frame. Thanks!

Reading AHPRA's tweets I get that the board had convened on Friday on what to do with certain groups of IQNMs. Let's hope they have an answer for us Philippine trained nurses.

[Silverdragon102, BSN]

Is this an option?

Do the Bridging program in NZ - since Nursing Council has shorter processing times.

After getting a RN license in NZ, apply to AHPRA for a license in Australia.

any thoughts?

The council may have a shorter time but the waiting times to get on the CAP is over 2 years I believe and you need either 1 or 2 years experience

[markgian]

Thanks for qualifying your statement. Much appreciated. Of course, there are many pathways to getting AU so no one option is intrinsically better. It all depends on your current circumstance. I opted to take the BP route because it was way cheaper, faster, and afterwards it lead to my PR then off to citizenship.

I agree that the BP is not a thing to brag about but isn't it necessarily an implicit that your letter of eligibility just proves the standard of education you had as an overseas trained nurse is comparable or similar to what they have in Australia? and that we as overseas nurses need only to be familiarized with the Au setting trough the BP? I have Filipino friends who are getting their Masters in Vic, isn't that a proof that the AU RN label has some qualifying merit at the very least.

It's not a good thing to brag about finishing the BP, but I think it is an achievement in itself - not all finish it, some even fail and are sent back. In the real world though nobody who finishes the BP in Oz will run to the Uk demanding to be registered there. Now that is unheard of.

[markgian]

Completely agree with this. Schools seem to have very limited slots and they fill up fast. Better to have 2 years experience. My friend just transferred from NZ to AU this week so I guess it is an option.

[kronick]

Was your friend a fresh out from CAP? Or did he gain exp in NZ already?

My plan is to do the BP in NZ and directly apply for a license in AU after being registered jn NZ.