Nurse Personality Change

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Joseph Campbell said something along the lines of, "The consciousness is changed through trials and tribulations and subsequent illuminating revelations".

Basically, this means that if we experience and deal with difficulties, our perception of reality is different; the way in which we view ourselves, others, and our environment is changed.

Many threads here on allnurses are about new Nurses endeavoring to deal with the pains and sorrows of working as a nurse. Some look for support and camaraderie in order to continue on their journey while others are discouraged and disappointed and want a way out.

One common factor amongst the seasoned Nurses focuses on their ability to adapt in order to brave the hardships of nursing. Some become, to varying degrees, calloused and expend their energies only on endeavors which are more assuredly to have beneficial results. Some are labelled COBs: Crusty Old Bats on the outside with gooey centers; coming across as mean, but good at heart.

Another common trait expressed is a type of personality change. Some have said they started out as naive nurses with Messiah Complexes, for they were young and strong and were going to save the world. Often times, these naive Nurses became pessimistic realists and found ways to deal with stress through changing their approach and personality.

Due to dealing with difficulties, these Nurses experienced illuminating revelations and changed the way in which they viewed themselves, others, and their environment.

Do you feel and believe that you have experienced a personality change since you were a new nurse?

I know that my personality changed from the time I began working as a new Nurse.

 

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Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
5 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

Well, have you heard about the grass being greener on the other side of the wall? 

Very much like the heaven promised? 

 

4 hours ago, Kitiger said:

Huh?

 

Please allow me to have a stab at Curious' analogy without sounding like some Backporch Preacher:

The greener grass of heightened consciousness and understanding is on the other side of the wall of selfishness. The only true sin is the sin of selfishness. If we give up the focusing on self, we may enter a heaven of understanding, comfort, and peace.

8 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

Well, have you heard about the grass being greener on the other side of the wall? 

Very much like the heaven promised? 

So being a history nut! The Romans adopted Christianity because only the senators and their ilk, sort of Egyptian stylee, were promised an afterlife. The slaves in all their drudgery, after death, that was it. Kaput! Finito! 

Here comes a religion that offered an afterlife and promised that all men were equal but the enslaved were even more equal (rich man, eye of the needle), so they jumped on board! Constantine, being a political animal and a mass murderer, joined the tide because Christianity is a revolutionary religion and he needed absolution. Mass murderer thingy! Rome's reach, Christianity spreads and hey presto! Another way to control the masses instead of the coliseum! Encapsulated, condensed Roman history for you! 

I hope you are able to draw the comparisons with the heaven quip and make the connection? Christianity is about an afterlife and heaven. Funnily enough, so too are almost every other religion? The elitism of being special and chosen! I wonder why that works? 

So to Davey's post, education can apparently lead to altered perception and personality changes too! Please make the connection, that it's also called religious education for those who subscribe! My education fortunately is derived from facts from an empire that lived for taxes to support its lasciviousness and therefore had scribes everywhere, keeping meticulous records of its taxes and citizens! Remember that overturning of the tables in the temple by Jesus? 

I kinda like to deal in facts! 

Specializes in psych nurse.

Davey Do,

Wise words indeed, bet you seen soooo many changes in the health field. I worked with a few nurses with about same amount of time as yourself and I was grateful for their wisdom and experience shared. 

So Davey, I have a theory about personality. I think it's based on something called neuroplasticity. This process explains to me almost everything about people's behaviors and its how I respond to people after taking it into consideration. 

People are usually confined to their ADLs, from family to job to friends etc ... which generates most of their experiences. It's (repetitive!) Ever heard of practice? Repeatedly doing something until you get better? It's essentially, repetition! Logically, more of the same experiences (practice) in the scientific world creates neuroplasticity! The brain changing physically and chemically to adapt to the repetitive experience, exercise or behaviors. Humans are emotional creatures. During this neuroplastic phase, emotions are inevitable and WILL coincide or collide with the neuroplasticity occurring, setting up a common connection, associated with the behavior. Endorphins? Pleasure... Or Catecholamines... Stressful? 

I think this is the process that generates personality? Repeated exposure to similar experiences and the resultant responses determines our reactions which is categorized as personality. It's why abused dogs become hostile or people who are exposed to calm parents become less anxious etc. Religion falsely places hope in an unseen being when a more objective response would be beneficial. Jesus clearly says, knock and it will be opened for you, not wait outside the door hoping someone will open it for you. 

Any patients that come in with an affective component, I approach from this point of view and it almost always explains the behaviors and responses unless there are genetic components hijacking. When the medical assessments rule out the physical, what's left is my theory and it appears to work for me. 

It's really surprising how effective one can be when you have objective reasons to explain phenomena like behaviors! 

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

Our controversial perspectives are more palatable if presented with the audience in mind and all due respect given.

1 hour ago, Davey Do said:

Our controversial perspectives are more palatable if presented with the audience in mind and all due respect given.

Pretty sure that facts don't care if they are controversial and it's the audience that generates the emotional perspectives based on their ability to accept facts. 

It's why we can trust the scientific process. Repeated testing always produces the same results, so it's reliable and not open to interpretation. 

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

Using fallacies in reasoning, balantantly refusing to consider alternative perspectives,  and having a closed mind which is not open to consideration are all good reasons to no longer continue a discourse.

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.
20 hours ago, Davey Do said:

The greener grass of heightened consciousness and understanding is on the other side of the wall of selfishness. The only true sin is the sin of selfishness. If we give up the focusing on self, we may enter a heaven of understanding, comfort, and peace.

In God's eyes the only true sin (that is not forgivable) is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.  Of course there are many many other sins including self centeredness that we should not commit. We should "die to self" because not only will give us peace here on earth but is also good for all humanity (other people). Psychiatrist and author Dr. Karl Meninger appraised the health of the nation in his final book titled "What ever happened to sin?" and concluded that the problem with our culture is that we have forgotten the word "sin". Instead we call people "dysfunctional", or "victims" when the real issue is just plain sin. 

On 6/10/2021 at 10:24 AM, Curious1997 said:

Well, have you heard about the grass being greener on the other side of the wall? 

Very much like the heaven promised? 

"The grass is always greener" to me has always meant that when one looks over the fence the other side seems better than the side you are on. This is not a good analogy because we know that Heaven (the actual place) will be better than anything here on earth.

 

20 hours ago, Davey Do said:

One School of Thought on the Old & New Testaments is that, respectively, one refers to the Laws of Karma while the other refers to the Laws of Grace. This particular passage is used as an example of that concept.

That same School of Thought believes Jesus taught us the Laws of Grace in order to heighten our consciousness. If we follow His teachings, we heighten our consciousness to the point that we may once again be able to reunite with the Universal Soul, God.

All accoutrements aside, Jesus' teachings have good life rules to follow and goals that we can set for ourselves.

I am attracted to, and quote, several great minds, but Jesus is my Main Man

The Old Testament is all about the law and how we humans are not able to ever measure up, thus the need for a Saviour. The New Testament is all about that very Grace (and mercy) that is shown to us when we accept the free gift of salvation that is offered to us. No human could ever keep the law so Jesus came to save all of humanity, who ever believes and calls Him Lord. "Wherefore my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ" (Romans 7:4). We are indeed able to reconcile/reunite with God!

 

Now back to your original premise. I used to think that my personality changed after becoming a nurse. I now think that is wasnt my personality per se that changed but my behavior to the stressors of the (nursing) job that I was having a difficult time dealing with. I was still the same person, just not coping well with the stressors that I had never experienced in the work place before (which I unintentionally showed outwardly). It wasnt too bad in the beginning (bc nursing hadnt got that bad yet), towards the end I consciously accepted the fact that it was never going to change (at least in my little part of the world), I cannot accept the responsibility of others (whether staff/patients/families), I cannot change others, and I was only there to do my job and that is it. I once again gained control over my environment (even though it was still always chaos) and thus gained control over my emotions, and thus personality (my true self). 

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

The premise of those who argue in the existence of heaven do so based on a scientific basis; there is no scientific basis, therefore heaven does not exist.

Avoiding a fallacy in reasoning, a definition of heaven needs to be established. I could say that I'm in heaven right now, at this time in my life, as I've never been happier. I could also say that, due to a NDE, I visited an afterlife, heaven, if you will, where I met with a relative long deceased.

Both are factual, evidenced by empirical experience.

Science is as advanced as it's ever been, and 500 years ago,according to James Burke's That Day the Universe Changed, it was believed that science had advanced as far as it could.

Science is continually in a state of change- we currently possess instruments that can monitor and measure energy and forces that were previously not known to exist. 

Science may, in the future, again renege on its former beliefs.

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).

Subjects of discussion often veer off in different directions tangentially or circumstantially.

Tangents are different lines of thought that may never return to the subject, whereas circumstantial thinking veers off into other areas and returns to the subject.

Discussions are more often organic rather than linear and are more so interesting, that being one of the reasons.

3 hours ago, Davey Do said:

Using fallacies in reasoning, balantantly refusing to consider alternative perspectives,  and having a closed mind which is not open to consideration are all good reasons to no longer continue a discourse.

Davey, I think you are exhibiting a closed mind here? I have only offered reasons to explain personality. I didn't bring up religion, I just showed that a certain personality, a closed personality actually, is more likely to be religious. It's a very narrow perspective being religious. Think about it. 

I have also offered a biological reason in neuroplasticity coupled with emotional reactions. You being a psych nurse should understand positive, negative reinforcing. Behavior modification. You yourself appear to use numerous techniques to calm your mind because of your lability. Always beginning new projects. 

I believe in solutions and I don't care if they arrive in a religious package. Each to their own. So I wonder personality wise, what caused your reaction to my post? What was the catalyst? 

How do you explain other experiences physically? By what biological process does our brain interpret the stimuli it's experiencing? Maybe your NDE was also an experience just like all of your other experiences with the same biological, chemical process occurring, unless for that one profound experience you are willing to suspend your previous understanding of science? In that case, explain the empirical evidence? 

Appears to me tangential thinking? You need to consider how many ways the brain is fooled. Magicians rely upon it. Phantom limb syndrome etc. Be objective and use your scientific approach. Subjectivity is not reliable! 

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

I have never heard the scientific basis of proving Heaven, the actual place. I believe that Heaven is a real place because it not only is talked about in the Bible but also because Jesus talked about it when he walked the earth as a human. Belief is by faith as opposed to evidence.

Many people feel like they are in heaven because of their emotions being good at that time. That is just a way of expressing ones self and not the same thing as the actual place of Heaven (where believers will go when their physical body here on earth dies).

"Science" as we know it is only human knowledge, which by comparison to Gods knowledge, is flawed. We think we know and can prove things (and sometimes we are correct) but "our ways are not His ways".

"Science" will most definitely renege again.

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