What would you say to this shocking patient statement? - page 4

Obese female in her forties admitted from the ED for asthma, allergy list a mile long, takes medication for anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, migraines, chronic back pain, etc. Has packed her comfy... Read More

  1. by   doro8144
    The fact is most American doctors go to medical school oversees and most foreign doctors go to school in the U.S...Have her think about that for a while.
  2. by   PalmHarborMom
    Quote from Asystole RN

    I would like to note that although she made disparaging remarks about the ethnicity and skin color of her physicians, you too are guilty. I find it interesting that you must qualify this patient by her weight, age, and preparedness for the hospital visit, as if you were attempting to paint a less than pleasant view of this individual.

    Different strokes for different folks.
    She may have made those remarks about her BUT the patient came to the ED of this hospital after leaving a different one. Yes, the patient has the right to refuse treatment from a certain doctor; however, she could have called her doctor and asked to for he/she to meet her at the hospital if it was a true emergency. It seems that in the ED, that is the place that there is not as much of a choice of doctors. You are kind of stuck with who is on call. The most worrisome part about the situation is that unless she brought the records of her treatment from the other hospital, you are guessing what meds she was given. (unless, you can call them to get the records but even then any treatment will be delayed)
  3. by   Multicollinearity
    Stick around in nursing - you'll see and hear vastly more shocking things than this ignorant patient's statement.

    By the patient's stated profile, she's probably a psych patient. There's no fixing this particular patient; there's just managing her until she splits the staff where you are.
  4. by   sauconyrunner
    Quote from caroladybelle
    We recently had a family member of a critical ill patient, demand during a medical crisis, for all of those that do not believe in Jesus to get the $%^& out of the patients room.

    Had the pt not been on the verge of a code, ALL of the staff would have been tempted to walk out, Christian and nonChristian, just to make the point.

    Quite honestly, had all of the nonChristians left, then the only staff left would have been housekeeping, a tech, and three nurses. the 3 MDs , many of the nurses, dialysis would have all left.
    I have to say, in a true Crisis for a loved one, i would have forgiven this entirely. It's not really a statement made out of complete intolerance, but one made of true gut wrenching fear. It isn't very nice, but I can totally see where they were coming from.
  5. by   dirtyhippiegirl
    Our service has quite a few brown skinned docs with hard to pronounce names. However, they are all American born and speak impeccable English.

    So it always boggles my mind a little bit when we get a patient who complains about "the attending with a really thick accent" that they "just couldn't understand."

    Do pre-conceived notions really blind us so much that someone can't overlook skin color and a different last name to actually HEAR what the doctor is saying?
  6. by   Sparrowhawk
    "Sometimes I'm right then I can be wrong
    My own beliefs are in my songs
    A butcher, a banker, a drummer and then
    Makes no difference what group I'm in
    I am everyday people

    There is a blue one who can't accept
    The green one for living with
    A black ones tryin' to be a skinny one
    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby

    Ooh sha sha
    We gotta live together

    I am no better and neither are you
    We're all the same whatever we do
    You love me you hate me
    You know me and then
    Still can't figure out the bag I'm in
    I am everyday people

    There is a long man
    That doesn't like the short man
    For being such a rich one
    That will not help the poor one
    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on scooby dooby dooby

    Ooh sha sha
    We got to live together

    There is a yellow one that won't
    Accept the black one
    That won't accept the red one
    That won't accept the white one

    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on and
    Scooby dooby dooby
    Ooh sha sha
    I am everyday people"

    I would have broken out into this song.....and danced....
  7. by   Been there,done that
    Quote from Multicollinearity
    Stick around in nursing - you'll see and hear vastly more shocking things than this ignorant patient's statement.

    By the patient's stated profile, she's probably a psych patient. There's no fixing this particular patient; there's just managing her until she splits the staff where you are.
    Exactly Multi! This is a psych patient we are discussing.It's all a moot point, as this woman has a sociopathic personality.
  8. by   BullzBaby
    Welcome to the "Melting Pot" known as America; we have ALL shades of skin and accents!!! How would she feel if the staff that weren't her favorite color chose not to take of her??? She would probably find herself all alone in the room... But thank goodness we are professionals and can choose to look over some people's ignorance.
  9. by   ellienix05
    Wow! So I am still in nursing school (almost finished-woot!) but as a veteran and a pt at the VA, I can LOOSELY understand. I have had many MDs that speak poor English or with a rich accent that makes it difficult to understand so IF that were the case, I can understand...HOWEVER its more likely just bigotry vs a language barrier. Clearly this pt has a distorted idea of what a hospital does! I think she may have made a wrong turn, possibly looking for the spa next door. Ha! But I think you handled it BEAUTIFULLY!
  10. by   kgill1204
    I bet you any amount of money that she left the hospital because she knew they has her pegged for drug seeking behavior. The whole " brown skinned doctor thing" was to throw you off so you would not ask so many questions. This is so classic I know " professional patients". Also sounds like to me she may have munchausen syndrome. I did a paper on it in nursing school....and in almost every case the Person would pack personal items like they were going in vacation. Things I would not even think to pack I I was in so much distress I had to go to the ER, just to get attention and they even go as far as going to a hospital out of state in order to advoid being detected... They are master manipulatirs ....sad but true..
  11. by   Esme12
    Quote from Viva Las Viejas
    You handled that situation beautifully, OP.

    As much as we hate to admit it, we're not going to turn a bigot into an open-minded, tolerant individual in the course of a hospital stay. Whatever makes someone that way, we don't know and we can't fix it. I do like Blue Devil's approach, and have been known to give good glare when stupid, insensitive, judgmental comments come out of patients' mouths. But again, I have neither the time nor the temperament to try to 'educate' these fools, so I just fix 'em with a bad look, mutter "I'm sorry you feel that way" and go right on doing my job.
    I'm with Viva.....someone once said on AN......."You can't fix stupid".

    Where I come from we call that a positive Samsomite sign....

    You responded appropriately OP well done.
  12. by   Sacred eagle
    Patients did not always act like thisand for the most part, their behavior is to be blamed on theentire medical community.
  13. by   mrcnstnc
    Hard to reply but I'll try, judgement comes in all shapes and colors as does patients(obviously) Personally I think you may have engaged her way too much by even asking why she left another facility. We're all nurses here so the main reason was probably no matter what color the doctors skin was or his accent he/ she probably told her her condition/behavior was unacceptable, wouldn't fill her narc RX. I have had many professional patients thruout my career,I've also witnessed MD's who lay it on the line for patients, just know as nurses we may not be afforded the same luxury of speaking our mind as an MD is. I'm for the look myself trust me my eyes speak volumes about what my head says. Patients like this one are experts at manipulation and are a giant thorn in a nuses side. The underlying disease is mental more than physical. A good doc would not only speak his/her mind but make a mental health referal. If you are confident in your assessment involve the MD in a care confrence and make the suggestion. If not chalk it up to it takes all kinds and come to the forums where we all have our nightmare clients nobody will hold it against you for saying what we all think of these types of patients. she'll continue to make her rounds until someone confronts her and even then who knows......