What She Couldn't Tell You

You've all had that patient...the mom with the frequent flyer child, and you want to scream with frustration because she's here again. Maybe she can't tell you why she keeps coming back. Maybe her behavior and lack of eye-contact makes your teeth itch. Did you ever ask? Did you look beyond your own exhaustion and frustration and really see her? How much do any of us really see the people we talk to, sit by, or care for? Nurses Announcements Archive Article

We've all met this type of mom before. It's 2330, her 8 year old daughter is struggling to breathe, and you know for a fact you saw them two weeks ago for the same thing. You also know for a fact you gave her a prescription for an inhaler, a follow-up appointment with a pediatrician for asthma, and got the information for applying for state aid for medical assistance. Yet, there they are, the child anxious and pale, the mother unable to make eye-contact and answering in quiet, short statements.

A little eye-rolling as you walk into the room helps you keep your tongue civil during the H&P. Definitely an asthma attack, the kind you had educated this mom about avoiding and preventing two weeks ago. You sigh in frustration (and a wee bit of anger) without realizing it, but the mother does. She shrinks a little more in the chair, stares at the floor at little harder, and tightens her hand around her daughter's hand. Her behavior sets your teeth on edge, and you hurry out of the room so you don't say anything you think will get yourself in trouble later.

As you head down the hall to let the on-call know that FF#3 is waiting for a neb, you shake your head that just about anyone can have kids nowadays, and wonder at that mom's gall to come in and be so diffident when it is clearly her fault that child is having another attack. You make sure to share your opinion with the nurses at the station. Venting helps.

Meanwhile in that room, a very anxious mother, who is struggling with an Atlas-sized load of guilt, tries to sooth her anxious child while they both wait uncomfortably for the doctor. Mom knows what you think of her. You aren't as unbiased and neutral as you thought. She can't tell you why they are here on a cold snowy night, at least not straight out, and you didn't ask.

She can't tell you that her husband has threatened to kill her and the daughter on numerous occasions if she ever thought about leaving him.

She can't tell you that he broke two ribs and tore out a chunk of her hair the size of a golf-ball when she tried saving up money for the daughter's birthday presents. He needed that money, there was beer to be bought.

She can't tell you that he disabled her car four times in the past two weeks while he was out drinking, and one of those times fell squarely on the day of the child's appointment.

She can't tell you that he routinely takes all of the money out of her purse, and she can barely feed her daughter, let alone get medication for her.

She can't tell you that he's a twice convicted felon, and because he won't leave, and won't let her leave, she can't get federal or state aid, because one of those felonies involved drugs.

She can't tell you these things, because he's out in the car, partially drunk, with a gun hidden under the seat, and if she takes what he thinks is too long, this might be the night he uses it.

So she hides. She does what she can, and tries to keep her daughter and herself alive. She takes all of your judgement and frustration and internalizes it, reinforces her belief that she is a horrible person, a horrible mother, and deserves every little bit of scorn and distaste heaped upon her. She knows all this, and yet she brought the daughter to the ER anyways, knowing that you will still care for the daughter, even if you hate the mother. She trusts in your care, your skill, and your oath to care for the ill. She pays you in nickles, dimes, and her self-esteem.

She might not have been able to tell you, and you didn't ask.

Fantastic post, really resonates with me, from the mother's standpoint. I once arrived at ER with a dislocated jaw, due to assault - they fixed me up, and told me to wait to see the social worker, I had a nice male nurse, but he was so obviously busy..I had broken down in tears in triage, he immediately asked me who did this to you?.. the social worker never appeared - too busy with other cases that night. I was a mother in a big city, alone at the ER, family overseas. I often think back to this -it was a real low point, getting on the subway, alone in pain, no money for a taxi to the hospital. I hope to work with domestic violence victims in the future. I've had a lot of mean things said to me from some of my family, comments to the effect of "you should have just left, you asked for this by staying when you knew it was bad", some formerly close family members completely turned their backs on me and left me feeling as if I'd done wrong all because I borrowed some money to leave, which I since paid back...the ignorance of these female family members hurt as much as the emotional abuse from my spouse, I felt terrible. There are people I find myself editing details in front of because their ignorance about domestic violence...this is why I hope to use my experiences to reach others, understanding is so important and domestic violence is a very complex thing. Safe Horizon NYC is an excellent resource for learning about domestic violence. Thanks for a wonderful post - I was a frequent flier in ER with my son, some of it was due to extreme anxiety brought on by abuse I think. I got zero support from my spouse everytime my son was sick, it was like a huge inconvenience to him and I was left totally alone, I couldn't even run things by him and I was isolated from family - so Id often end up in ER, feeling I had to be cautious.

I'm sorry. I understand everyone has a story to tell. But if this is true she is a poor mother. If you have a kid you put them 1st. By being not calling the police, not reporting all this she is endangering her child. If a woman wants to stay in that sort of relationship, fine. Don't do it to your children then hide behind some "battered woman's syndrome"

Now everyone you can ream me. Go ahead, but nothing will change my mind.

Specializes in allergy and asthma, urgent care.
I'm sorry. I understand everyone has a story to tell. But if this is true she is a poor mother. If you have a kid you put them 1st. By being not calling the police, not reporting all this she is endangering her child. If a woman wants to stay in that sort of relationship, fine. Don't do it to your children then hide behind some "battered woman's syndrome"

Now everyone you can ream me. Go ahead, but nothing will change my mind.

SHAME ON YOU!!! Until you have walked in this woman's shoes, reserve your uneducated and cruel judgements. These situations are not that simple, and leaving is not as easy as you make it out to be. Physical and emotional abuse can leave you unable to think rationally. It is a form of brainwashing. I really hope you are able to keep these thoughts to yourself when treating patients. I have a feeling you're just as judgmental about other things.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

I think who people Monday-morning quarter back DV, I think about the Stanford prison experiment; anyone can become a perpetrator or a victim:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

I'm sorry. I understand everyone has a story to tell. But if this is true she is a poor mother. If you have a kid you put them 1st. By being not calling the police, not reporting all this she is endangering her child. If a woman wants to stay in that sort of relationship, fine. Don't do it to your children then hide behind some "battered woman's syndrome"

Now everyone you can ream me. Go ahead, but nothing will change my mind.

I don't know what makes me sadder - the fact that you are openly proud of your judgmental and harsh attitude towards your potential clients, or that you refuse even the idea of considering their point of view, their situation, and helping them out of it.

Related to the initial article - oh, the Fe++.

LadyFree, I remember watching a documentary about that. It was terrifying to watch people change, so suddenly. I think your comparison has merit, to be sure.

SHAME ON YOU!!! Until you have walked in this woman's shoes, reserve your uneducated and cruel judgements. These situations are not that simple, and leaving is not as easy as you make it out to be. Physical and emotional abuse can leave you unable to think rationally. It is a form of brainwashing. I really hope you are able to keep these thoughts to yourself when treating patients. I have a feeling you're just as judgmental about other things.

So, if the dad beats the child to death, or the child dies of a severe asthma attack because the mom didn't have her medicine, who do you think the courts are going to hold responsible? Both parents. The mom for staying in that relationship and allowing a man to abuse her child is almost as bad as the abuser. She too will serve some jail time if the child winds up dead at the father's hands.

For those who have no sympathy for the abused, maybe you need to experience it in order to understand?
What, again? No thanks. What a nonjudgmental, tolerant, nonviolent response (insert eye roll). I was rooting for the lady and mad at the mean ol' nurse until the part about the drunk husband in the car with the gun. I have a lot of sympathy and tolerance, but only up to a point. After that, well, I've done all I can (or had all I can tolerate) and it's up to you to get yourself out of your own mess.I stand by what I posted.I am sorry that the OP was in that situation and I hope she learned enough not to repeat the pattern.
Yes, DV is a complicated issue, but in the end, it is that uncomplicated sense of self-preservation that often pulls a woman out of a DV situation. That prevailing logic that canigraduate and sionainnRN reference in their less than popular posts is eventually what saves them, and often times, we find ourselves wishing we had jumped ship earlier, because anyone who's been in a DV situation before knows that it just gets more and more intense the longer you stay.I find it ironic that those commenting here seem to assume that because one disagrees with mom's actions, they were never abused themselves. That mirrors the prejudice espoused in the story, perhaps even more so than the original storyline.
Thank you.

SionainnRN

When I said the mother is a GOOD mother for taking her child to the ER when her child had difficulty breathing I said a GOOD mother and I was referring to

a) the child needs emergency treatment - she knew this and took action - to the ER and

b) a GOOD mother because she si taking her kid who needs EMERGENCY treatment to the ER KNOWING that the nurse is judging her, for being there but doing it anyway - WHY? because her daughter needs treatment. I was referring to that GOOD when I said she is being a good Mom.

Countrymomma

"That woman was my Mother" HUGS and more hugs!! I will repeat what I said earlier Judgment has no place in nursing.

I'm so happy I got to see this story. I feel it spoke to me for a reason. I was that mother tonight at the ER. My son had a fever that resulted in an asthma attack. I felt the weight on my shoulders when I talked to the nurses and the doctor. I saw how the doctor tried telling me with a smile, but her voice cut on edge. I knew the nurses and I heard them talking about me, and I felt so ashamed. I did my best to help my son, but like in that story, there's always more to it. I'm glad this was the first thing I saw tonight after coming home with a healthier child. Maybe this experience will help others see from another's point of view and feel also.