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I work with a newer male nurse who's been nursing about a year as a second career. He's older than me, he could be my dad. We have a policy at work, all the piggybacks and drips must have a hide-a-sticker label over hippa type info and they carried out and disguarded in the medical waste bin in the dirty utility room. This nurse has built the reputation for leaving his old bags piled up in the rooms he works in and hardly ever throws them away, in addition to leaving his room and patient discombobulated in the bed. One day after noticing a pattern I addressed it stating how it's unprofessional and rude not to throw your trash and let the next shift pick up after you. He's response was "oh, did I leave my tubings and bags in the sink again??? Hahaha..." uh, yeah you did! So I had to follow him on a different day same patient with multiple bags changed through out the shift. Guess what I did!????

Every bag was due to be changed by the next morning, I'd tossed all the old tubbings with all the piggybacks out as they were completed. (so he'd have to start fresh) I even gave him a nice heads up that the patient was gonna need new tubings for everything he says "oh whatever, that's fine" ok. Pumps alarm after change of shift... I hung around to see. It's an isolation room too! Lots of gowning and ungowning, ESP if you forget to bring stuff in the room. He says omg! I didn't think you left it all empty! I said have a good day :-) and left. Come to find out from a another nurse "ohhhh, you are on his hit list" I said why, because he gets away with leaving his trash behind. Well all I did was cleaned up (literally) she too has had same issues. Today I get to see him. Was this too far? I personally don't know what else to do to get him to change his chronic bad behavior. What's worse is that he thinks it's funny and ok to do this. I'm trying to avoid going to the big boss, but how unprofessional is this???!!!!

I feel compelled to chime in here. I bristle every time I hear the phrase "male nurse". it really is irritating. Are nurses who happen to female referred to as female nurses? No. So i really wish males who happen to be nurses would be refered to as simply, Nurses.

Secondly, many women I know are very in tune to sexism, and are always on guard and quick to point out when they feel a man is being sexist. Well, a few of the posts here are what I would consider reverse sexism and stereotypical.

My nursing program is 50 percent male. We are coming in to the profession in great numbers.

Just as women ask for and expect to be treated equally, we males ask and expect the same.

Specializes in CDI Supervisor; Formerly NICU.
I feel compelled to chime in here. I bristle every time I hear the phrase "male nurse". it really is irritating. Are nurses who happen to female referred to as female nurses? No. So i really wish males who happen to be nurses would be refered to as simply, Nurses.

Secondly, many women I know are very in tune to sexism, and are always on guard and quick to point out when they feel a man is being sexist. Well, a few of the posts here are what I would consider reverse sexism and stereotypical.

My nursing program is 50 percent male. We are coming in to the profession in great numbers.

Just as women ask for and expect to be treated equally, we males ask and expect the same.

I almost commented on that, too. Thanks for covering for me.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Onc, LTAC.

I'm evil... I love it! :)

I worked with this dude who ALWAYS ripped down all tubing and bags, even brand new primary bags and secondarys that I just set up. Why? Because he looooooved to run his antibiotic on a primary that he set up, because he felt like it was quicker, and it was NOT hospital policy. The guy was prime example of lazy and I bet my bottom dollar he never flushed those lines after taking down the antibiotic!!!!

Grrrrr.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Onc, LTAC.

Ohhh... just so this doesn't get attacked! :p Yeah this last post was a male nurse, but the worse nurses I've ever witnessed... and doing scary horrible neglectful things... happened to be a woman. Just FYI... not what this thread is about :p

I'm evil... I love it! :)

I worked with this dude who ALWAYS ripped down all tubing and bags, even brand new primary bags and secondarys that I just set up. Why? Because he looooooved to run his antibiotic on a primary that he set up, because he felt like it was quicker, and it was NOT hospital policy. The guy was prime example of lazy and I bet my bottom dollar he never flushed those lines after taking down the antibiotic!!!!

Grrrrr.

Is it ok if I call you "chick" or "babe"?

Rather than dude or guy, why not just substitute the word Nurse.

Why is the gender of this person even significant?

Specializes in Emergency.

We have the opposite problem at our work - our nurses (both younger/older nurses and male/female) clean up and adjust their patients but for some reason litter the nurses station/computers with their drinks/empty coffee cups!

i agree with the comments from Gila. A very direct conversation with him is certainly called for (before approaching management).

and plus most guys aren't very adept at catching "subtle" communication - and you may have to repeatedly "reinforce" things before they catch on (like conditioned response).

Love your nick mrWarmHearted :) Love it :)

And yes, direct communication always works best. I dont think anyone cares much for games and subtleties

Specializes in Medical Surgical Orthopedic.

The whole thing sounds petty to me. I might "lovingly" scold someone who consistently left discarded tubing in bathroom sinks, but it wouldn't make my "Top 500" list of problems. You most likely annoy people who come in after you, too. We all have our preferences and weaknesses.:twocents:

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
Love your nick mrWarmHearted :) Love it :)

And yes, direct communication always works best. I dont think anyone cares much for games and subtleties

Ahhh, but I suspect that would be the problem. It is a gender-issue. Based (solely) on what the OP described, this Nurse is taking advantage of the fact that he will sit around, fat & happy, and completely immune to the social dynamics of the female work force- particularly given his age (has to be >40) and his lack of organization. This is habitual, and he's found an environment where he can get away with perpetuating his model.

I once worked with an ED doc who had a less than positive interaction with a Surgical Fellow, over an admit. Objectively, the Surg Fellow was being a lazy orifice. Our doc, polite and courteous the entire time, finally relayed the following:

"I'm sorry, we seem to have started off on the wrong foot. I learned an important lesson from my Chairman in residency. He told me that it was important to be polite and professional to everyone, particularly with people I had not previously encountered, since you never knew WHO COULD KICK YOUR A**! Now, I'm John____, and you are...? Nice to meet you. Now..."

Never had another problem with surg.:D Unprofessional. Probably. Battery? Probably. But also very much the verbal dynamics of Type A males- there is usually a latent physical threat. Type A females utilize a latent social threat. Fundamentally, asswhup trumps hurt feelings, so males will generally dominate in a personality clash, unless there is some other mitigating factor (blackmail, sex, money, being the most common).

Never had another problem with surg.:D Unprofessional. Probably. Battery? Probably. But also very much the verbal dynamics of Type A males- there is usually a latent physical threat. Type A females utilize a latent social threat. Fundamentally, asswhup trumps hurt feelings, so males will generally dominate in a personality clash, unless there is some other mitigating factor (blackmail, sex, money, being the most common).

I hate to say it but I agree with this, seen it in action and seen it work.

As a 5'1" female with the muscle tone of mousse and all the intimidating nature of cotton balls, I sometimes envy how the 200+ lb, six foot something males I have worked with get respect with a simple look that says "I will pull out your colon and wrap your head with it if you pull out this line. Sit down, shut your piehole and listen to my sagely teaching about diabetes management."

Specializes in Infectious Disease, Neuro, Research.
...all the intimidating nature of cotton balls,...

Never would have guessed! You could take a bold first step, and change your screen name to "8GaugeAngio", "DryCath", or "EJ Jabber".:D

However much we may not want it to be true, men and women have fairly generalizable, stereotypical behaviors that are complementary, in positive aspect. I'm fairly, ah, direct; my wife is highly empathetic. When we were both on the floors, we had positive outcomes with some patients that were very trying for other staff, because of our complementary styles and supportive relationship.

In negative aspect, men will use the women's social machinations to pursue their own ends; the women will attempt to use the men's "presence" to further their agenda. Outcomes are based on relative intelligence and competing variables of sociopathology vs. social integration for personal success.

...but that's just my $0.02;)

Rob,

I seriously burst out laughing at your post.

If we're talking in sweeping sociological generalizations, yes, I agree with you too.

I give you kudos and that will mate with the future kudos that will surely be given and burst forth kudostuplets.

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