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NO MORE LPNs

i understand that they are going eliminate the lpn position altogether. do you think they can or will?

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Who are the "they" that are going to eliminate the LPN title? Are "they" a govt organization? Are "they" from the NCSBN?

Who is this mysterious "they" that are going to do away with all of the LPNs?

ROFL...I usually ignore any comments, quotes, or ideas that come from this mysterious "they" Furthermore, this argument has been around for years...and will continue to be there in the future...

Not going to happen anytime soon, thats for sure.

I know it's cyclical, and I hope and pray not permanant, but the LPN's around here are being squeezed out of the hospitals. It's ridiculous.

"they" are a figment of someones imagination. I remember in the 70's, "they" were talking about getting rid of LPN's. Instead, LPN's were removed from the hospital settings in most states. But, think about it,

1. they don't have enough teachers to increase RN classes

In my state of New Jersey I know of very few hospitals that still hire or even have LPN's working on the patient care units. Most LPN's were either laid-off, given the chance to transfer to a nursing home run by the facility or trained to be wound care LPN's.

I have spoken to many RN's about this and most are happy that they were phased out and the number one reason being that it was too much of a hassle having an LPN and a CNA to worry about and delegating was a major issue.

2. there is already a shortage of RN's, imagine the mess if the few RN there are now have to be shared with LTC, DR'S offices, clinics etc...

"they" can talk all they want, but, LPN fill a vital role in healthcare and are not going to be extinct for a very long time.

Phased out from many hospital settings doesn't mean the title is phased out or in any danger of being phased out. There are still plenty of LPNs in LTC/SNF...homecare...clinics...doc offices...ambulatory care settings...dialysis centers...etc.

Hospitals are not the only place in the world to work.

"I have spoken to many RN's about this and most are happy that they were phased out and the number one reason being that it was too much of a hassle having an LPN and a CNA to worry about and delegating was a major issue."

I guess all that "delegating" just got ot be too much...LPN's in my hospital and in the majority of the state are treated the same as RN's, given the same patient loads, and outnumber the RN's 4:1. We respect the RN's and there "expierence" and I sure as hell wish that some RN's would respect ours. We delegate the CNA's just like the RN's and guess what??? We do just fine.

LPN's will not be phased out. It just won't happen.

BTW, I am in RN school because I'm tired of doing an RN job and not getting paid for it.

Won't happen in my working lifetime here in Canada. The scope of pratice between the two levels of nurses is very close. TPN and blood spiking being the main sticking point. And after the original bag of Travisol is hung, well then we do the next bag. Blood hanging requires two signatures, doesn't matter if it's RN/RN or LPN/RN, only one RN gets to spike the bag.

Our PN education is basically the diploma RN education. The existing LPNs have only the choice of going back to university and doing a BScN. Every PN class intake is full and nearly every new grad has a job to go to.

Our hospitals would grind to a halt if we were "gotten rid" of.

LPN's will not be phased out. it's true the LPN's are not being used in my hospital anymore , but we need the diversity of the LPN practice. I never see LPN's being phased out.

I just started working with LPNs, they are a very good part of the healthcare team. I don't hope to see them go.

In my area, you only see LPN's in LTC or Doc's offices. The 3 major hospitals only have LPN's that were "grandfathered in" & they have a time limit for completing their RN if they want to keep their job.

The local Ivy Tech has had meetings about discontinuing it's LPN program because graduates are having a hard time finding a job.

It may be a cyclical thing, but if all the current LPN's obtain their RN in the near future and the local schools d/c their LPN programs, there won't really be a choice of swinging back to LPN's later.

It makes you wonder how well thought out some of these decisions are.

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