No fundal checks for post-op C-sections?

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I'm a fairly new RN, in my second job in LDR & PP. Last week, I went in to assess my pt who was a ppd 1 c-section with my preceptor observing. After I was finished, she said "Great job, except that we NEVER do fundal checks on C-sections." Huh?

No one can explain to me the rationale for not doing fundal checks after the patient leaves the OR- the only response was a guess that the docs don't want the opsite disturbed. I have done many postop fundal checks at my former job, and have never interrupted a suture/staple/clip line while doing so. I would think that a C-section pt would warrant fundal checks- wouldn't there be a risk of hemorrhage just as much, if not more, than a lady partslly delivered patient?

It makes me nervous to not to do a careful fundal check of a postop patient. I'd never live with myself if a patient ended up with a bellyfull of blood because I didn't do a proper assessment.

Am I crazy for thinking this way? Does anyone else have a policy of not doing fundal checks on their C-sections? Thanks in advance....

PS: I came from a women's hospital that performed 1000+ deliveries a year. Here, we get maybe 250. Could it be that we are we just behind the times?

I have only been a postpartum nurse since February (new grad) but I was taught to do fundal checks on all pts - vag & csect - as part of the assessment when I come on shift and of course PRN.

Melissa

I'm a fairly new RN, in my second job in LDR & PP. Last week, I went in to assess my pt who was a ppd 1 c-section with my preceptor observing. After I was finished, she said "Great job, except that we NEVER do fundal checks on C-sections." Huh?

No one can explain to me the rationale for not doing fundal checks after the patient leaves the OR- the only response was a guess that the docs don't want the opsite disturbed. I have done many postop fundal checks at my former job, and have never interrupted a suture/staple/clip line while doing so. I would think that a C-section pt would warrant fundal checks- wouldn't there be a risk of hemorrhage just as much, if not more, than a lady partslly delivered patient?

It makes me nervous to not to do a careful fundal check of a postop patient. I'd never live with myself if a patient ended up with a bellyfull of blood because I didn't do a proper assessment.

Am I crazy for thinking this way? Does anyone else have a policy of not doing fundal checks on their C-sections? Thanks in advance....

PS: I came from a women's hospital that performed 1000+ deliveries a year. Here, we get maybe 250. Could it be that we are we just behind the times?

I am not a nurse yet, but I have had a lady partsl delivery and a C section and know for sure I had fundal checks with both.

Specializes in OB, lactation.

... I'm just a student and we did them in our OB rotation...yep

Fundal checks on all pts regardless of lady partsl or c-section delivery.

And I'm going to continue doing my fundal checks on everybody. ;)

Good! You're patient's deserve no less and remember that it is YOUR license. You worked hard to earn it and you must work hard to protect it. We had a lady on another floor who obviously no one did fundal checks on or bothered checking her I/O's, who fundus was 5+ above on the 4th day post-op (getting ready to go home and the physician discovered it). Turns out they nicked her bladder - she ended up staying, having more surgery of course, and was a very sick lady. :nono:

Specializes in Babies, peds, pain management.

They don't want the op-site disturbed but the pt can bleed out! :uhoh3: I have been doing this for 20+ years and I have never heard of such a thing. Even with pitocin in the IVF you HAVE to check the fundus. In the last 2 weeks we have had 2 c/s bleed out and that was with frequent fundal checks, they would have died without them. The only reason I could think for not doing fc's...to not hurt the pt. If that's the case, don't do chest compressions for CPR so you don't hurt the pt. Keep on doing what the reasonable, prudent nurse would do, check the fundus. Do the drs or the manager agree with this? Do they know this is going on?

Do the drs or the manager agree with this? Do they know this is going on?

Good question. :uhoh21:

Not sure what the MDs/manager think. Being the new girl, I want to get some research behind this before I pipe up. This weekend I'm going to go to the local medical college's library and look up the AWHONN standards so I can present my rationale for doing postop fundal checks (looked on the unit for a copy of AWHONN's latest, but to no avail).

Our P&P manual is hard for me to navigate- I couldn't find anything specific about fundal checks after the pt leaves the OR. So I want to have a well-prepared report all ready when I broach the subject. I don't want to make waves, I just want to do right by our patients.

Again, thanks for all your helpful replies :)

ask yourself this, if it does you peace of mind to do fundal checks on c/s pt's pp, by all means do them, will it kill the pt to do fundal checks absolutly not. will it possibly kill pt to not do fundal checks, maybe. I'm not even an l/d nurse or pp nurse.

Specializes in Obstetrics/Case Management/MIS/Quality.

one of my worst pp hemorrhages was on a c/s patient......if i hadn't been doing fundal checks, the woman would have never survived, because i would've never knew there was a problem until it was too late. keep doing those checks!!! :chuckle

I'm a fairly new RN, in my second job in LDR & PP. Last week, I went in to assess my pt who was a ppd 1 c-section with my preceptor observing. After I was finished, she said "Great job, except that we NEVER do fundal checks on C-sections." Huh?

No one can explain to me the rationale for not doing fundal checks after the patient leaves the OR- the only response was a guess that the docs don't want the opsite disturbed. I have done many postop fundal checks at my former job, and have never interrupted a suture/staple/clip line while doing so. I would think that a C-section pt would warrant fundal checks- wouldn't there be a risk of hemorrhage just as much, if not more, than a lady partslly delivered patient?

It makes me nervous to not to do a careful fundal check of a postop patient. I'd never live with myself if a patient ended up with a bellyfull of blood because I didn't do a proper assessment.

Am I crazy for thinking this way? Does anyone else have a policy of not doing fundal checks on their C-sections? Thanks in advance....

PS: I came from a women's hospital that performed 1000+ deliveries a year. Here, we get maybe 250. Could it be that we are we just behind the times?

When I worked L&D/PP we always checked funuses post op. Heavy bleeding from a boggy fundus is just as likely to occur after a c-section as in a regular vag delivery.

Always did them on c-sections, and none ever complained about it.

Having said that, I remember one student asking why we had to do them on section Mums, because "they swab out the womb in the OR". She thought that because most of the fluids were removed in theatre, there would be no reason to check fundal height.

Could they be working on the idea that decreased lochia = decreased need to check?

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