nj bon with drug record

[xojessicalynnxo25]

Has anyone ever been approved by the NJ BON with a drug record without having to do RAMP? My charges are 7 years old and i did send in letter of completion from rehab I completed 8 months of. please no ignorant comments.. Yes i made mistakes in my past but that does not define who I am today as a person. I have 7 years clean and am now awaiting approval from the bon

[Wizard 1]

At one time I thought that way too, that fellow professionals wouldn't treat another professional that way. I have since learned differently, and how.

I didn't much to my regret. I got a DUI and was remorseful. I never thought that nurses would put each other through this nonsense. Lawyering up might well be worth it

[K9lover, ASN, RN]

Never had a DUI but that was dumb luck and police could decide to just let one go home with a promise not to go back to a bar. I did not realize it was this bad for nurses' with a past DUI, either. I recall one classmate who had to go to the BRN and explain circumstances. As with everything in this country the pendulum swings to complete opposite, I would agree from what I have seen here that getting a lawyer would be in order. I never thought I would say I'm happy to be older but I am when I see recovery nursing, I am amazed anyone jumps through this many hoops all with the stress of being newly sober!

[xojessicalynnxo25]

I have a little over 7 years clean. I waited to go to school until I knew I was 100 percent ready to deal with the stress and all that comes along with being a nurse. I am not that same person I was then. I was young and stupid. I pray they see past it and allow me to become a nurse, they will not regret it.

[SpankedInPittsburgh, DNP, RN]

These programs aren't about recovery. They are an exercise in power plain and simple. I doubt if any recovery plan would include public proclamations of your addiction, taking away your livelihood or bare tooth threats. This is recovery in no form its operant conditioning and we are the dogs. This "recovery program" has so soured me on everything recovery-related that I would rather die a horrible death of an alcoholic then be in recovery or attend a 12 step meeting on my own ever again.

[NjtoVARN, BSN, RN]

Just wondering how you're doing? Any word yet? How long was the total process for you? (Similar situation and just started the app in Dec!)

[GuyRN2003]

If you need an attorney in NJ, contact me, I know of one who is affordable and will do everything possible to keep you out of RAMP.

[Randomnurse3]

Good luck I hope the Monitoring Nazi's leave you alone. They would not in the neighboring state of Pennsylvania where one person in my support has 12 years

This is so disheartening to hear. That's more than a decade! What is the BON trying to prove by doing this

[SpankedInPittsburgh, DNP, RN]

Oh I could probably talk for days about this but in my opinion a bunch powerless nurses and social workers who have been ignored for decades have been given power over other nurses who either must do as they say or lose their livelihoods. The want to simultaneously "teach a "lesion" to the "addicted" nurse and treat them. The result is this over-controlling purgatory that they have created that is also tied up with the almost completely ineffectual drug and alcohol rehabilitation industry that is jaded and simply wants to squeeze every nickel they can from the situation. The result for the vast majority of nurses taking part is horrible, over-reaching plus it doesn't work. The nurses who actually have addiction issues font respond to it, relapse and get thrown out of the program. Many of the nurses forced in to this "recovery" (forced abstinence) are simply counting down the days until their next drink or drug. They are not true addicts or alcoholics because they stay abstinent for a long period of time albeit with a gun to their head but they will do what they have to do to keep their jobs. More importantly they will make the frustrated, powerless fell like somebody important and keep an almost worthless industry afloat

[catsmeow1972, BSN, RN]

Oh I could probably talk for days about this but in my opinion a bunch powerless nurses and social workers who have been ignored for decades have been given power over other nurses who either must do as they say or lose their livelihoods. The want to simultaneously "teach a "lesion" to the "addicted" nurse and treat them. The result is this over-controlling purgatory that they have created that is also tied up with the almost completely ineffectual drug and alcohol rehabilitation industry that is jaded and simply wants to squeeze every nickel they can from the situation. The result for the vast majority of nurses taking part is horrible, over-reaching plus it doesn't work. The nurses who actually have addiction issues font respond to it, relapse and get thrown out of the program. Many of the nurses forced in to this "recovery" (forced abstinence) are simply counting down the days until their next drink or drug. They are not true addicts or alcoholics because they stay abstinent for a long period of time albeit with a gun to their head but they will do what they have to do to keep their jobs. More importantly they will make the frustrated, powerless fell like somebody important and keep an almost worthless industry afloat

To add to this, not only horrible over reaching ‘treatment' that doesn't work, thier one size fits all approach, ignore the real reason someone showed up on thier radar, what they manage to do is damage an already hurting person. I am one of those people that was forced through a farce of treatment that I did not need and my actual needs were completely ignored. The result? PTSD to add to my original mental health diagnosis. I am not in recovery. I have nothing to recover from. I will manage my mental health for the rest of my life with family support, my doctor and therapist. It clearly will not be with any help from my colleagues who apparently live in the dark ages of psychiatric treatment.

I am not the only one in this predicament either. As these programs cast thier net further and draw people into them for more and more dumber and unnecessary reasons, there will be more instances of me than of people who could truly benefit from this sort of thing. There was an interview with a lawyer from a firm in Florida sometime ago(circa fall 2016), one of the two that does primarily license defense law (the Florida branch of the one doing the HPRP lawsuit, I believe) where he said something to the effect that if you sifted out the people that really belonged in IPN, about half do not belong there and that the "approved evaluators" that you were directed to were the responsible entities. Just an interesting thought on the people on power trips, carelessly ruining careers and lives left and right.

[SpankedInPittsburgh, DNP, RN]

Yeah Here my "approved evaluator" worked for an inpatient rehab with a bed available. Guess where I wound up?