New Grad, needs help getting a job at NY presbyterian!!! help

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Hello,

I just graduated in May 2010 with an Associate degree in nursing, and I'm having a hard time landing a job in NYC. I currently live in Maryland, but will be moving to the city in 2 weeks. I would really love some advise on how to get a RN job in NYC. I'm really interested in L&D or postpartum. I've applied to several hospitals, and have not heard back. NY Presbyterian keeps saying that I do not have the minimum requirements. I would really love to work there since I'll be living a block away from the hospital. I was a nurse extern at one of the hospitals in DC and did an internship in Rwanda as a midwife. I've graduated from my program and have pass the NCLEX, and should be receiving my license in a week. If anyone knows who I could contact or what to do, that would be extremely helpful . Really need help, I'm just so ready to give up...

Thank you,

Uwera

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Why are you moving without having a job?

What made you to decide to live a block away from NYP?

Do you have a roommate?

Do you have money to afford the rent in Manhattan without working?

You were too prompt to make a huge decision without thorough thinking.

I'm a new grad who was raised in NYC and went to NYC nursing school,

externed in city hospital in Manhattan, have a friend who's a manager in NYP.

I'm relocating to another state soon (interviewed, got an offer, accepted it)

because like you, I have ADN and no experience in a city with tons of experienced, unemployed nurses with BSN.

P.S. Private institutions in NYC such as NYP do not hire ADN's anymore.

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Well, just to let you know, if I purchased a condo in that area, it would mean that I'm financially stable to live in that area. I also was not aware that the hospital was located a block away, until after I purchased the condo. I'm also moving because I'm getting married and my fiance works in the city. You shouldn't be quick to judge people without knowing their situations, but instead give them advise... If you're not going to give me good advice or let me know which hospitals would accept ADN, then I really don't need your negative attitude.

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Don't have dog in this hunt, but you can search this group for several threads regarding hiring at NYP.

Basically right now is *not* the best time for any nurse, especially new grads to be looking for work.

Two major hospitals closed just last year in one part of New York City (Queens), then St. Vincent's in the Village just two months ago, and now we hear that on Friday North General Hospital in Harlem will be closing. In short there are literally hundreds if not near a thousand (or more), experienced RNs out there looking for work. To this one has to add the hundreds of new grads from last year, perhaps the year before and now this year hitting the job market.

All this on top of the financial havoc caused by the recession/credit melt down, and now "ObamaCare"/Medicare,Medicaid reform are having or will have on NYC/NYS hospitals.

IIRC, NYP has an online application process at their website, but *think* someone posted the section for "new grads" has been taken down.

Since you will be living in the area, once you have settled in, try going over to the hospital and giving your resume to HR or whomever is the nursing recruiter. Be warned however most NYC hosptials operate on a tight lock down, so you may not be able to get a foot past the front desk without an appointment.

Your next tack will be to try and find an inside contact. Again living in the are you probably sooner or later will run into nurses from NYP.

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Specializes in NICU.

I'm not trying to be hard on you like the first poster but it really is tough here. I keep seeing people saying they're moving to NYC and I keep shaking my head like why? I understand your situation's a bit different and I feel for ya because the job market is horrific! And you're already at a disadvantage because you only have ADN. There are tons of new grad BSNs looking for work for a year now! :eek:

Like the previous poster said, a lot of hospitals have closed down and it has thrown a lot of experienced nurses into the job pool. Many hospitals especially in manhattan have gone on hiring freezes to accommodate the displaced nurses, and now there is another hospital closing tomorrow! Which is making it WORSE!!! I don't understand why people keep trying to move to NYC, it's terrible here. I have a friend that lives in another state and I just told her to hold off another year and maybe things might get better but it's really not worth it coming here because there are no jobs! Especially for new grads. If the new grads with BSN are having a horrific time, think of how much more difficult it will be for you. I really hate to sound all negative but there really isn't anything positive to say about the NYC job market now. If you must move here, just hope that you lucky and land something but the only places I know that hire ADNs are the city hospitals (HHC) and BSN new grads are competing for those positions as well. So when it comes down to it, if they have to choose BSN or ADN, they're going to choose the BSN (assuming both candidates give a great interview)

You could also try LTC (nursing homes or skilled nursing facilities) or clinics. They may be more willing to take an ADN but there is no way a hollywood hospital like NYP is going to take an ADN...maybe if you're somebody's daughter or sister but they insist on BSN. All the hollywood, popular, private hospitals do. (NYU, NYP and its affiliates, Mt. Sinai)

Continuum Health Partners may take ADN as well but like I said before, they prefer BSN. Continuum Health Partners has Beth Israel, St. Lukes Roosevelt, LICH, NY Eye & Ear Infirmary)

Good luck, keep us posted!

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I'm sorry if I was negative but I just wanted give you the blunt truth.

Like you said, I didn't know that you purchased a home in NYC.

Without the background info I understood it as you just coming here because you want to live here and hope for the job.

If your husband works then hopefully you don't have to worry about the financial needs until you get a job.

It was just a concern, not to be unhelpful.

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Specializes in med-surg, step-down, ICU/CCU, ED.
Well, just to let you know, if I purchased a condo in that area, it would mean that I'm financially stable to live in that area. I also was not aware that the hospital was located a block away, until after I purchased the condo. I'm also moving because I'm getting married and my fiance works in the city. You shouldn't be quick to judge people without knowing their situations, but instead give them advise... If you're not going to give me good advice or let me know which hospitals would accept ADN, then I really don't need your negative attitude.

I don't think the poster was being rude to you, just realistic. You sound scared, as you should be. 7 years ago I was living in Baltimore as a freshly minted new grad. I took the bus up to NYC to interview at NYP (on a whim because I never considered moving to NY till then) and was hired the next day, no muss no fuss. THOSE were the days, lol, cuz getting a job at NYP isn't as easy as it used to be. And you have an ADN? Forget it, they are being extra extra picky these days and want BSN new grads (or ADNs with loads of experience). Like another posted stated, try Continuum, they seem to be hiring. Also, check out North Shore in Long Island. You are going to have to expand your options with this one because unfortunately there are no back doors to getting employment in NYP. :(

Bon courage!!

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I would love to move to NYC too but I need a job first...I will move anywhere just to get a job.

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thanks for the advice, I've actually applied to other hospitals in brooklyn and queens. Well, I'll keep trying and hopefully i'll get something. If not I've already applied to start a master's program in the fall as a back-up.

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Specializes in NICU.

Another thing I want to add is that its not that some of the popular hospitals are discriminating against ADNs its that some of magnet status (I know Mt Sinai does) and in order to retain that magnet status I believe they have to maintain a certain percentage of BSN nurses on staff. The more BSN nurses they have, the better they will "look".

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Why are you moving without having a job?

What made you to decide to live a block away from NYP?

Do you have a roommate?

Do you have money to afford the rent in Manhattan without working?

You were too prompt to make a huge decision without thorough thinking.

I'm a new grad who was raised in NYC and went to NYC nursing school,

externed in city hospital in Manhattan, have a friend who's a manager in NYP.

I'm relocating to another state soon (interviewed, got an offer, accepted it)

because like you, I have ADN and no experience in a city with tons of experienced, unemployed nurses with BSN.

P.S. Private institutions in NYC such as NYP do not hire ADN's anymore.

When did NYP stop hiring ADN's ? I know this is a developing trend in NJ too and will be the standard soon. Valley Hospital will only take BSN but tThere was an upper classmen from my school that was hired at NYP in the Fall with a ADN. When he applied...they said BSN preferred, but he still applied. Preferred does not mean required....so still apply.

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Another thing I want to add is that its not that some of the popular hospitals are discriminating against ADNs its that some of magnet status (I know Mt Sinai does) and in order to retain that magnet status I believe they have to maintain a certain percentage of BSN nurses on staff. The more BSN nurses they have, the better they will "look".

Unless things have changed, Mt. Siani is the only NYC hospital with "Magnet" status. Yes, while meeting that criteria for admission does require a certain ratio of nurses with degress at or >4 years there is seems to be more at work than simple "discrimination" against two year degree grads.

The point has been argued forever, both in this group and elsewhere, but for good or bad, many hospitals feel today's acute care settings requires a better educated nurse. As the profession has moved away from "pillow-plumping" and "med passing" to a nurse that is a full partner in the healthcare team, she is expected to be able to pull her weight. Today's nurse must be able to analyze data and interpet or put into use evidence based practice on the fly, so to speak.

Again, we can argue about which is better straight out of the box, ADN vs BSN till the cows come home, however hospitals seem by and large not waiting for the profession to make up it's mind. This is not just happening at the large teaching hospitals of Manhattan either. IIRC, a poster from Staten Island said recently as an ADN grad she couldn't find work there either.

It is also worth noting the new nursing programs being started in NYC, Hunter, and Kingsbrough/LIU are both BSN programs. Am not counting the two St. Paul's schools since they were merely the old St. Vinny's programs taken over by another.

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