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New to Phoenix, Grand Canyon Uni or Chamberlain?

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Hi everyone, I am new to Phoenix and am interested in moving from EMT to RN (just an EMT-B so no Para bridge program) I see that all the MCC colleges have huge wait lists and am wondering what everyone thinks of these two schools? Which would be better? Do they both result in BSN's that are transferable to other colleges in case I want to specialize later? Accreditied? Are they "degree mills" that hospitals will look down upon? Cost is not an issue here, as I am in the Army and its all paid for.

Thanks!

I am in the program at GCU, although I am still finishing my prereqs. GCU is not a diploma mill school, if fact from everyone I've talked to outside of the school, their nursing program is highly regarded. I have some issues with the school itself but I believe you'd find that with any school. I too am using VA benefits, and GCU is finally starting to get their act together with the VA system, a few hiccups here and there but not bad. GCU is accredited by both the state and the CCNE. I can't attest to Chamberlains programs, although when I visited the school I got a distinct diploma mill feeling from them.

Edit, forgot to add in both schools issue the BSN. GCU's credit are fully transferable to any US school too.

Jami RN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac, Step-Down, Psych, Recruiting. Has 13 years experience.

I just registered for the GCU RN to BSN program. I also considered Chamberlain. I chose GCU because they offer a tuition discount through my employer, so my tuition will all be prepaid and I won't have to pay anything out of pocket. Chamberlain would have been more expensive for me, personally, in my situation. They both appeard to be quality programs. I know many people who have gone to GCU, in person and online, and have good things to say about them. Chamberlain's program also seemed pretty good, though.

I think either would be okay -- it just depends on your specific situation.

Sorry if I'm late on replying to this post, but to the OP I would really be very leery of Chamberlain School of Nursing. As I stated in another post, not only does the Arizona Board of Nursing not recognize them as an accredited school of nursing nor does the state of Florida, Illinois and I don't remember what other state they have a location in, but in ALL states none of their boards recognize Chamberlain as accredited. There are also no results of their nclex pass rates online (other than what their website says which you should take with a grain of salt). Not trying to knock their program but for the cost i would really say GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL FOR THAT COST. If I were you, I would really look into GCU and completely disregard Chamberlain. Not only is GCU cheaper (by 20 or so thousand), but it regarded as a "better" school. Although GCU is seen as religious, YOU do not have to take any religious classes (which is a plus).

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but it says that you can choose one of the following courses:

INT 463

World Religions

A study of the major contemporary religions of the world including both historical background and development, and current beliefs and practice with emphasis on basic religions: Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Islam, and Baha'i.

BIB 113

Old Testament History

An introductory and historical survey of the Old Testament. Attention is given to the study of the Bible itself, its institutions, literature, and history of the national life of the Hebrew people from earliest times to close of the Old Testament period

PHI 101

Introduction to Philosophy

An introduction to the discipline of philosophy through a study of representative philosophic problems.

BIB 123

New Testament History^

A general historical survey of the New Testament, beginning with the inter-biblical period, with the main emphasis given to the Gospels and Acts.

Philosophy isn't directly religious, so that is how you DON'T have to take a religion course.

fromtheseaRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma.

a friend of mine went to GCU and said the difference is that classes like philosophy and what not are started with the premise of creationism, so although not directly religious the classes are based off of it.

i had asked her a lot about it because i am not christian but wanted to attend their nursing program.

a friend of mine went to GCU and said the difference is that classes like philosophy and what not are started with the premise of creationism, so although not directly religious the classes are based off of it.

i had asked her a lot about it because i am not christian but wanted to attend their nursing program.

Oh I get what you're saying.... Ugh I just hope it's really not as "religious" as they claims to be. What does your friend think of the campus- I know it's not a very safe area....?! :/

fromtheseaRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma.

she loved the campus and was fine with it.

she also stated that religion really isn't pushed, it's just "known" that in classes that creationism is the truth. if i had had more time/money i would've applied there, i could of put up with it knowing i was going to receive an excellent nursing education. and they use cadavers in the nursing courses which would've been amazing.

Ready2Help

Specializes in NICU.

Just so you know, Chamberlain is accredited with both the NLNAC and the CCNE. They are on provisionary status right now because they haven't had any graduates yet...that is here in Phoenix. I am currently in my second year and am enjoying the education I'm receiving. They are still working out kinks because it is a new program but have found my time at the school to be educational and enjoyable.

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

you actually do have to take religion courses, but GCU is very highly regarded and accredited...2 things that chamberlain is not.

Very highly regarded? I don't think so. Most people in the nursing community (read: those of us who are already nurses or hire nurses) don't find them to be 'very highly regarded' at all.

I mean, there's a reason when you can get into a program without a wait.

Their RN-BSN is run as a diploma mill, which clouds their traditional BSN program's integrity.

OP, why not ASU or NAU?

she loved the campus and was fine with it.

she also stated that religion really isn't pushed, it's just "known" that in classes that creationism is the truth. if i had had more time/money i would've applied there, i could of put up with it knowing i was going to receive an excellent nursing education. and they use cadavers in the nursing courses which would've been amazing.

This nursing adviser who has been contacting me recently all she ever talks about is their cadavers lab and how high tech and prepared their students are (plus all of the alliances w/ hospitals so you're basically guaranteed a job... which is SUCH a plus for me having a weight lifted off that I WILL infact find a job upon graduation). You know the religious part about GCU really turned me off (and I read it was a dipoloma mill on here), but the more I read about GCU the more I research the school I really don't have a problem with it. A few people I've talked to say GCU is renowned for their nursing program, so I'm actually pretty excited to be transferring there next summer upon completion of my pre-reqs and getting started. Another big thing is that their program is only 5 semesters... so I'll basically get my degree in 3 yrs VS the 4 - typical university length program..... What school do you attend now amandamaren?

Very highly regarded? I don't think so. Most people in the nursing community (read: those of us who are already nurses or hire nurses) don't find them to be 'very highly regarded' at all.

I mean, there's a reason when you can get into a program without a wait.

Their RN-BSN is run as a diploma mill, which clouds their traditional BSN program's integrity.

OP, why not ASU or NAU?

Ouch they're not highly regarded?! :/ From a few people (medical) i've talked to they said they're up there in nursing/teaching quality...

My dream school WOULD be ASU but I'm just not sure how competitive I'd be (... btw I have yet to start my pre-reqs... I start in a few weeks for summer school)

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

Like I said, their RN-BSN diploma mill has clouded thier tradition program. But working with GCU students has also left me unimpressed. We have yet to hire one...

Like I said, their RN-BSN diploma mill has clouded thier tradition program. But working with GCU students has also left me unimpressed. We have yet to hire one...
cardiacRN, which program would you recommend from word of mouth Chamberlain or GCU based upon what you've heard from each?

Btw I was wondering, what hospital are you employed at?

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN

Specializes in Cardiac.

I'd pick ASU~:wink2:

I'd never reveal where I work! Are you crazy???

I'd pick ASU~:wink2:

I'd never reveal where I work! Are you crazy???

well I want to go to ASU but it's quite a competitive program... and ahh I'm not sure if I'd get all those straight A's (I haven't started my pre-reqs but am in oh... 2 weeks! :p)

hehehe okay I see what you're saying................ hmm I think I have an idea though.

fromtheseaRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma.

Very highly regarded? I don't think so. Most people in the nursing community (read: those of us who are already nurses or hire nurses) don't find them to be 'very highly regarded' at all.

I mean, there's a reason when you can get into a program without a wait.

Their RN-BSN is run as a diploma mill, which clouds their traditional BSN program's integrity.

OP, why not ASU or NAU?

really? the hospital i used to freelance in marketing for preferred GCU grads, and when i started pursuing nursing they urged me to attend GCU.

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