Published May 24, 2009
FrankenEMT
1 Post
Hi everyone, I am new to Phoenix and am interested in moving from EMT to RN (just an EMT-B so no Para bridge program) I see that all the MCC colleges have huge wait lists and am wondering what everyone thinks of these two schools? Which would be better? Do they both result in BSN's that are transferable to other colleges in case I want to specialize later? Accreditied? Are they "degree mills" that hospitals will look down upon? Cost is not an issue here, as I am in the Army and its all paid for.
Thanks!
mait128
9 Posts
I am in the program at GCU, although I am still finishing my prereqs. GCU is not a diploma mill school, if fact from everyone I've talked to outside of the school, their nursing program is highly regarded. I have some issues with the school itself but I believe you'd find that with any school. I too am using VA benefits, and GCU is finally starting to get their act together with the VA system, a few hiccups here and there but not bad. GCU is accredited by both the state and the CCNE. I can't attest to Chamberlains programs, although when I visited the school I got a distinct diploma mill feeling from them.
Edit, forgot to add in both schools issue the BSN. GCU's credit are fully transferable to any US school too.
Jami RN, BSN, RN
94 Posts
I just registered for the GCU RN to BSN program. I also considered Chamberlain. I chose GCU because they offer a tuition discount through my employer, so my tuition will all be prepaid and I won't have to pay anything out of pocket. Chamberlain would have been more expensive for me, personally, in my situation. They both appeard to be quality programs. I know many people who have gone to GCU, in person and online, and have good things to say about them. Chamberlain's program also seemed pretty good, though.
I think either would be okay -- it just depends on your specific situation.
nnicolee
159 Posts
Sorry if I'm late on replying to this post, but to the OP I would really be very leery of Chamberlain School of Nursing. As I stated in another post, not only does the Arizona Board of Nursing not recognize them as an accredited school of nursing nor does the state of Florida, Illinois and I don't remember what other state they have a location in, but in ALL states none of their boards recognize Chamberlain as accredited. There are also no results of their nclex pass rates online (other than what their website says which you should take with a grain of salt). Not trying to knock their program but for the cost i would really say GO TO AN ACCREDITED SCHOOL FOR THAT COST. If I were you, I would really look into GCU and completely disregard Chamberlain. Not only is GCU cheaper (by 20 or so thousand), but it regarded as a "better" school. Although GCU is seen as religious, YOU do not have to take any religious classes (which is a plus).
fromtheseaRN, BSN, RN
464 Posts
Although GCU is seen as religious, YOU do not have to take any religious classes (which is a plus).
you actually do have to take religion courses, but GCU is very highly regarded and accredited...2 things that chamberlain is not.
http://my.gcu.edu/SiteCollectionDocuments/DegreePrograms/CONHS/BS_Nursing_Pre-License_POS.pdf
I'm not sure what you're looking at, but it says that you can choose one of the following courses:
INT 463World ReligionsA study of the major contemporary religions of the world including both historical background and development, and current beliefs and practice with emphasis on basic religions: Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Islam, and Baha'i.BIB 113Old Testament HistoryAn introductory and historical survey of the Old Testament. Attention is given to the study of the Bible itself, its institutions, literature, and history of the national life of the Hebrew people from earliest times to close of the Old Testament periodPHI 101Introduction to PhilosophyAn introduction to the discipline of philosophy through a study of representative philosophic problems.BIB 123New Testament History^A general historical survey of the New Testament, beginning with the inter-biblical period, with the main emphasis given to the Gospels and Acts.
INT 463
World Religions
A study of the major contemporary religions of the world including both historical background and development, and current beliefs and practice with emphasis on basic religions: Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Islam, and Baha'i.
BIB 113
Old Testament History
An introductory and historical survey of the Old Testament. Attention is given to the study of the Bible itself, its institutions, literature, and history of the national life of the Hebrew people from earliest times to close of the Old Testament period
PHI 101
Introduction to Philosophy
An introduction to the discipline of philosophy through a study of representative philosophic problems.
BIB 123
New Testament History^
A general historical survey of the New Testament, beginning with the inter-biblical period, with the main emphasis given to the Gospels and Acts.
Philosophy isn't directly religious, so that is how you DON'T have to take a religion course.
a friend of mine went to GCU and said the difference is that classes like philosophy and what not are started with the premise of creationism, so although not directly religious the classes are based off of it.
i had asked her a lot about it because i am not christian but wanted to attend their nursing program.
a friend of mine went to GCU and said the difference is that classes like philosophy and what not are started with the premise of creationism, so although not directly religious the classes are based off of it.i had asked her a lot about it because i am not christian but wanted to attend their nursing program.
Oh I get what you're saying.... Ugh I just hope it's really not as "religious" as they claims to be. What does your friend think of the campus- I know it's not a very safe area....?! :/
she loved the campus and was fine with it.
she also stated that religion really isn't pushed, it's just "known" that in classes that creationism is the truth. if i had had more time/money i would've applied there, i could of put up with it knowing i was going to receive an excellent nursing education. and they use cadavers in the nursing courses which would've been amazing.
Ready2Help
39 Posts
Just so you know, Chamberlain is accredited with both the NLNAC and the CCNE. They are on provisionary status right now because they haven't had any graduates yet...that is here in Phoenix. I am currently in my second year and am enjoying the education I'm receiving. They are still working out kinks because it is a new program but have found my time at the school to be educational and enjoyable.
cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN
4,106 Posts
Very highly regarded? I don't think so. Most people in the nursing community (read: those of us who are already nurses or hire nurses) don't find them to be 'very highly regarded' at all.
I mean, there's a reason when you can get into a program without a wait.
Their RN-BSN is run as a diploma mill, which clouds their traditional BSN program's integrity.
OP, why not ASU or NAU?
she loved the campus and was fine with it.she also stated that religion really isn't pushed, it's just "known" that in classes that creationism is the truth. if i had had more time/money i would've applied there, i could of put up with it knowing i was going to receive an excellent nursing education. and they use cadavers in the nursing courses which would've been amazing.
This nursing adviser who has been contacting me recently all she ever talks about is their cadavers lab and how high tech and prepared their students are (plus all of the alliances w/ hospitals so you're basically guaranteed a job... which is SUCH a plus for me having a weight lifted off that I WILL infact find a job upon graduation). You know the religious part about GCU really turned me off (and I read it was a dipoloma mill on here), but the more I read about GCU the more I research the school I really don't have a problem with it. A few people I've talked to say GCU is renowned for their nursing program, so I'm actually pretty excited to be transferring there next summer upon completion of my pre-reqs and getting started. Another big thing is that their program is only 5 semesters... so I'll basically get my degree in 3 yrs VS the 4 - typical university length program..... What school do you attend now amandamaren?