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Myths and Facts on the Bush Administration's New Overtime Regulation
MYTH: Under the Bush Administration's new overtime laws, very few if any workers making between $23,660 and $100,000 a year will lose overtime eligibility.
FACT: The new Bush Administration overtime laws are written such that many workers who currently earn overtime pay in this pay range are likely to lose it. For example:
Concurrent Duties--Under the old rule, an employee who spent a substantial amount of his or her time on nonexempt work but who also performed some exempt supervisory duties generally remained eligible for overtime pay (under old rule 541.116). Under the new rule, that person will generally be an exempt executive, and not eligible for overtime pay. (New section 541.106)
EXAMPLE--An assistant manager in fast-food, grocery or retail may spend most of his or her time performing "line" duties, like burger flipping or ringing up customers, but still be "in charge" of other workers at the same time. Under the old rule, many of these workers still received overtime pay. Under the new rule, they may very well lose their overtime pay, even if they make as little as $23,660 a year--a wage that qualifies a family for food stamps.
Salary Basis Test--The old rule required an employer to pay a worker a salary in order to deprive the worker of the right to overtime pay. The new rule (541.604) defines salary as an hourly wage, so long as the employer guarantees a minimum wage that bear a loose relationship to hourly compensation.
EXAMPLE--Registered nurses (RNs) are very likely to lose their overtime pay rights. RNs' work satisfies the duties test for professionals, but they are paid hourly, and they don't have much freedom to come and go. If they come in to work late, they are docked an hour's pay, for example. They used to receive overtime pay for the many hours of overtime they are required to perform. Under the new rule, they are likely to lose that right.
There are many other examples of how workers in this salary range are likely to lose overtime pay rights. In general, the final overtime regulation will have an especially large impact on workers with minimal supervisory or "leadership" responsibilities, workers who perform minimal amounts of administrative work, workers with special skills, and certain kinds of employees in the computer field.
MYTH: The new Bush Administration overtime law merely clarifies murky law, thus eliminating unnecessary lawsuits. The law is part of its "proven commitment to protecting workers' rights."
FACT: The new Bush Administration overtime law, in fact, lays out in the regulation exemptions which corporations have not been able to win in the courts. For example:
Journalists--There has been a lot of litigation over whether journalists have the right to receive overtime pay. Courts ruled both ways, based on the facts of each case, and many decisions prohibited journalists from losing the right to overtime. The Bush Administration points to the cases in which journalists have lost the right to overtime as the basis for their new rule, which now makes it much harder for journalists to get overtime pay. In fact, there's a big difference between court cases in a limited number of jurisdictions and the new Bush Administration federal rule, which broadens the exemption nationwide for all journalists. (New section 541.302)
Insurance claims adjusters--Again, court cases on whether insurance claims employees receive overtime pay have gone both ways--some courts have said they are exempt and other have said they should receive overtime pay. This is a very heavily-litigated field, and corporations have not been able to win a blanket victory. The Bush Administration has handed them that victory by changing the nationwide regulation to specify that these employees are generally disqualified from receiving overtime pay. (New Section 541.203(a)) A quarter of insurance claims adjusters make less than $35,000 a year.
MYTH: The Bush Administration merely updated the rules to reflect today's modern workplace, but did not strip workers of overtime pay rights.
FACT: The Bush Administration could have supported the Harkin Amendment which allows them to make any updates to the rules, as long as no worker loses overtime pay. In fact, the Bush Administration has made it MORE difficult for many workers in the structure of today's workplace to receive overtime pay.
Team leaders--Many workplaces are moving toward having a team leader structure under which co-workers oversee one another's work. In the old overtime law, the only people disqualified from receiving overtime pay were "staff" who oversaw "special projects." The new Bush Administration overtime law changes that language so that people who do "line" work--whether it's turning out hamburgers or ringing up sales--and who oversee "major projects" will be likely to lose overtime pay rights. "Special projects" implied that there was a definite start and end to the project, whereas the new "major projects" could go on indefinitely, thus knocking many team leaders out of overtime pay rights.
MYTH: The Bush Administration has cut back on the number of lawsuits which will arise over overtime pay.
FACT: The 500 plus page rule and preamble is very likely to lead to MORE, not LESS, litigation. The rule is, at best, ambiguous. It essentially invites employers to push on these ambiguities, forcing workers who lose overtime pay to challenge their new status in court.
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I can't in good faith recommend a career in nursing to anyone!
I am currently a computer programmer of 20 years and starting my education for a nursing career. It wasn't bad being considered exempt when you are in your twenties and are willing to work 60 to 80 hours a week and miss holidays without compensation. But, today the environment has become worse. Comp time for excessive overtime and holiday work depends today on who your manager is and your company's mandatory overtime policy. The computer environment use to be like the nursing environment. There were plenty of jobs. Now they are scarce and pay a lot less. But, you work the overtime and do not complain. I currently have a manager that does not believe in comp time for excessive overtime or working holidays. For the last two years, I have lost 3/4 of my holidays. I don't want to go into nursing to face the same problems. You never get any time to recover unless you get sick. Yes, exemption from overtime is good for companies. But, it can also be bad for them if they limit staffing , assign more work to the current workers, and make them burn out. I have seen the abuse by companies in the computer industry. When the overtime exemption is passed for nursing, I suggest employees to provide imput on company policy on overtime compensation (alternate days off) for excessive overtime.I am now rethinking a career in nursing.
I don't get overtime on active duty, but as a Captain, I make a heck of a lot more than most nurses, so my money's good. However, I am planning on attending school to become a physical therapist, so you can see my view of the future of nursing is dim.
I can't understand why anyone would take (or keep) a job where you are forced to work unpaid overtime and not compensated fairly. There are other jobs and career fields out there.
If this works out the way most liberal observers say it will (there are 2 sides to every issue, you know) then I think it's safe to say the nursing shortage will continue.
Supply v. demand works, and if RNs are willing to work 50-60 hour weeks for low pay, of course that's what will happen.
I found on the CNN web site an article about the new OT laws: Lawyers, doctors, registered nurses, and
engineers will not be eligible for OT, it doesn't seem to matter how you are payed, salary or hourly, the
above stated professions will not receive OT. This is supposed to save hospitals and companies a lot of
money.
scooterRN52
The word is out on CNN that if we can get a democrat in the white house for president in November, this new OT law won't last long and may be changed to allow us RN's to get OT again.
So I'm not telling people who to vote for, but please take this seriously, we work too hard not to get
overtime pay that we deserve!!
scooterRN52
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! It's Monday 8/23 the dreaded OT deathday and uess what. Not one of us here that is paid hourly has heard that we will no longer be getting OT. The scare tactics that the Dems and nursing groups are using to put fear into people is unbelievable. If you got OT before today you will get it tomorrow.
Chiken Little: "The sky is falling the sky is falling!"
Dave
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! It's Monday 8/23 the dreaded OT deathday and uess what. Not one of us here that is paid hourly has heard that we will no longer be getting OT. The scare tactics that the Dems and nursing groups are using to put fear into people is unbelievable. If you got OT before today you will get it tomorrow.Chiken Little: "The sky is falling the sky is falling!"
Dave
Exactly. None of my hourly and WELL-paid friends in the hospitals have said anything about losing overtime for the hours they are signed up to work this week.
I am paid salary which means I RARELY will work overtime but regularly leave early, come in late, take long lunches whether it be for appointments or sick kids with NO docking of my pay.
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! It's Monday 8/23 the dreaded OT deathday and uess what. Not one of us here that is paid hourly has heard that we will no longer be getting OT. The scare tactics that the Dems and nursing groups are using to put fear into people is unbelievable. If you got OT before today you will get it tomorrow.Chiken Little: "The sky is falling the sky is falling!"
Dave
Slow your roll, dude...employers have something like 90 days (I believe) to notify us of the DOL changes and how it might affect us.
I work in a hospital, our managers have not said a thing about how these new overtime rules will effect the RN's, but after reading the cnn web site, I'm sure we'll be effected.
I don't work any OT anyway, but I may call the agency I used to work for.
They pay well, and it is extra cash!!!! I think it is really unfair not to get overtime, you might think that we are making supurb paychecks. Nurses are underpaid as it is.
If you hear anything, please let me know.
Thanks scooterRN52 :angryfire
I went to orientation today. Human Resources rep was speaking. I asked him about the OT law. He said "theres no way they can get out of it - every hospital in the state pays overtime to RN's" Nobody knows what will happen in the future, but if we stick together, that fire will burn out on its own. The contract I signed said "eligible for overtime" and that I was an hourly employee. You do have to be careful what you sign.
I went to orientation today. Human Resources rep was speaking. I asked him about the OT law. He said "theres no way they can get out of it - every hospital in the state pays overtime to RN's" Nobody knows what will happen in the future, but if we stick together, that fire will burn out on its own. The contract I signed said "eligible for overtime" and that I was an hourly employee. You do have to be careful what you sign.
thanks for your input, I go back to work tomorrow, so I will check w/ the night supervisor to see if she has heard anything.
I usually get about 4-5 hrs. OT in a 2 week period, only because I work 6
12hr. and one 8 hr. shifts in a 2week period. One week has 44hrs. and the other week has 36 hrs. I'd rather work 36hrs. and get payed for 40 hrs.
thanks, scooterRN52
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I am now rethinking a career in nursing.