New Nurse BULLIED/UNDERMINED/DRIVEN OUT

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:o Hi, I am new to this forum. I am a 37 yr old mother of three who worked in the Ultrasound field for eons...before making the "smart" move to go back to school for nursing. I was in the hospital since I was 20, know the politics, made many friends and many enemies. I am an outspoken, honest,"say it like it is" person who believes in team work and NON backstabbing. I was recently terminated from a position as a staff nurse at a local hospital in M---- County Pennsylvania. I was in this program that would supposedly take me from med-surg all the way up to ICU/CCU. That's what I wanted. Ever since I had started at this institution I have encountered nothing but negative feedback. I am a new nurse, six month's into the GAME. I have been pulled into the nursing office about three times,confronted by two nurse managers that they feel I was just not getting it. That was the first meeting, when I was there on the floor as a new nurse for only 6 days. Then second meeting they told me that I wasn't filling out my I/O sheets (O.K) that "other nurses" were complaining that I was unaproachable, defensive, unfocused, and that patients were complaining too. I said, O.K, can you give me some examples so I know what to work on. They said that they didn't have it ALL written down but there were numerous complaints. I also supposedly talked about alot of the nurses to other nurses. ( At this point I am thinking am I in high school?) So I left that meeting solum and beaten....vowing to not say a peep to anyone. I have three children here to feed and a marriage on the rocks. But unfortunately I have a personality that loves to laugh, talk, help others, and really want to make a difference in patients and my coworkers lives. So that didn't last. I was told I was on probation again....after 5 months on the floor and that I was not ready to be trained on the telemetry floor. ( My background is Cardiology...Echo, holter scanning, etc.) The very next week they ( nursing office) decide to pull me to the telemetry floor, by myself, no preceptor or co-assign for 12 hrs. (Humph!) They( nursing office) call me about 3pm and ask me to stay to 7pm, there on telemtry. I opened my big 'ol mouth and said "Isn't it funny how I am not ready to be trained in telemtry but you can put me here for twelve hours." I stayed. The next week they pull me to the Oncology floor, which is a hospice floor also. I did a two week rotation there in December. I recieved 5 patients....One was dying...and did die on me, a psych patient with medical issues, a drug seeker, a normal medical case, and last but certainly not the least, a OPT coming in for blood that spoke only Russian. Well, my day was hell, so one of the other nurses "started" the ball rolling as far as my patient that had to recieve blood. She did the assessment and "got them ready for me". I was left with the IV stick and getting the blood. I did this all after sticking this poor woman three times because of rolly veins and I proceeded with it when the clerk told me the blood was ready. Appartently there were med's to give prior to the blood that I did not know about. I assumed (how wrong I was) the other nurse would have let me know this. She wrote the nursing progress notes on the patient and it was a mistake I will never make again. Anyhow, this woman's vein infiltrated, I took it out, iced it, then went to pull a seasoned nurse to restick here again. When the first unit of blood was done, I took her vitals and let the oncoming nurse that she had to get lasix folling the unit and after the second unit. This fact was told to me. Patients vitals all within normal parameters, I finished all the rest of my paperwork, and lastly checked if the oncoming nurse needed anything before I left. She said no. Off the next day, then went to work the day after, pulled in the office and was shown an order that stated Tylenol 650mg P.O, Benadryl 25mg, P.O, and Hydrocortosone (don't know the amount...blurry now) and that these meds were never given, now this patient was admitted with reactions and she is in CHF. I looked at the order and it had no time or when to give (premedicate or only PRN)So I am at fault but there were more than one pair of hands in this pot along with a badly written order. I was terminated. I was told that I didn't follow through. Then they said that I didn't even sign the progress note and that's when I told them that I did not write that. They said"oh...." I never receieved any written warnings nor had to sign for anything and I feel that I did not practice at 100% but it was a floor out of my realm. I hope all that reads this do not think that I think I am infallable. I am not. I just feel that this hospital had no intention of keeping me and were waiting to see me fall. I am a "6 month old nurse" in desperate need of a job and I need good references. I was going to stay at this one place until I hit my year mark. It does not look right when you go from place to place. I need some guidance here, if any body would be so kind. Thank you. Bindy :o
Specializes in E.D and Tele.
I believe that the stress that you have at home is affeacting your ability to be a good nurse, especially since you are new. Definitely get into a new grad situtation where you are working with much more training. Also, you may want to rethink being so ambitious right out of the gate. When your marriage is on the rocks, your plate is already full. I believe that you should think about taking small bites career wise until your stress level goes down somewhat.

By the way, what happened with the ultrasound career? Why is that completely sidelined? Is it possible to do that while you are waiting for the right nursing job to come your way? That way, you can be more selective.

Best of luck.

Sue

The ultrasound is specialized and there tends to be only three to four positons in each facility.I staye dhome for awhile to care for newborns(2) and a sick husband. So when I was ready to work, I decided to do something new.....am still glad I did. My marriage has been rocky but is on the mend. We are trying and actually trials in life tend to pull us together I do have to start out slow but not in a snails pace. I have to eat, along with my children. I will be O.K.....honestly, life goes on. So will I. :) Bindy

Waiting for you to fall? I think they pushed you from behind. If they didn't fire you you would have been miserable working there.

:o Hi, I am new to this forum. I am a 37 yr old mother of three who worked in the Ultrasound field for eons...before making the "smart" move to go back to school for nursing. I was in the hospital since I was 20, know the politics, made many friends and many enemies. I am an outspoken, honest,"say it like it is" person who believes in team work and NON backstabbing. I was recently terminated from a position as a staff nurse at a local hospital in M---- County Pennsylvania. I was in this program that would supposedly take me from med-surg all the way up to ICU/CCU. That's what I wanted. Ever since I had started at this institution I have encountered nothing but negative feedback. I am a new nurse, six month's into the GAME. I have been pulled into the nursing office about three times,confronted by two nurse managers that they feel I was just not getting it. That was the first meeting, when I was there on the floor as a new nurse for only 6 days. Then second meeting they told me that I wasn't filling out my I/O sheets (O.K) that "other nurses" were complaining that I was unaproachable, defensive, unfocused, and that patients were complaining too. I said, O.K, can you give me some examples so I know what to work on. They said that they didn't have it ALL written down but there were numerous complaints. I also supposedly talked about alot of the nurses to other nurses. ( At this point I am thinking am I in high school?) So I left that meeting solum and beaten....vowing to not say a peep to anyone. I have three children here to feed and a marriage on the rocks. But unfortunately I have a personality that loves to laugh, talk, help others, and really want to make a difference in patients and my coworkers lives. So that didn't last. I was told I was on probation again....after 5 months on the floor and that I was not ready to be trained on the telemetry floor. ( My background is Cardiology...Echo, holter scanning, etc.) The very next week they ( nursing office) decide to pull me to the telemetry floor, by myself, no preceptor or co-assign for 12 hrs. (Humph!) They( nursing office) call me about 3pm and ask me to stay to 7pm, there on telemtry. I opened my big 'ol mouth and said "Isn't it funny how I am not ready to be trained in telemtry but you can put me here for twelve hours." I stayed. The next week they pull me to the Oncology floor, which is a hospice floor also. I did a two week rotation there in December. I recieved 5 patients....One was dying...and did die on me, a psych patient with medical issues, a drug seeker, a normal medical case, and last but certainly not the least, a OPT coming in for blood that spoke only Russian. Well, my day was hell, so one of the other nurses "started" the ball rolling as far as my patient that had to recieve blood. She did the assessment and "got them ready for me". I was left with the IV stick and getting the blood. I did this all after sticking this poor woman three times because of rolly veins and I proceeded with it when the clerk told me the blood was ready. Appartently there were med's to give prior to the blood that I did not know about. I assumed (how wrong I was) the other nurse would have let me know this. She wrote the nursing progress notes on the patient and it was a mistake I will never make again. Anyhow, this woman's vein infiltrated, I took it out, iced it, then went to pull a seasoned nurse to restick here again. When the first unit of blood was done, I took her vitals and let the oncoming nurse that she had to get lasix folling the unit and after the second unit. This fact was told to me. Patients vitals all within normal parameters, I finished all the rest of my paperwork, and lastly checked if the oncoming nurse needed anything before I left. She said no. Off the next day, then went to work the day after, pulled in the office and was shown an order that stated Tylenol 650mg P.O, Benadryl 25mg, P.O, and Hydrocortosone (don't know the amount...blurry now) and that these meds were never given, now this patient was admitted with reactions and she is in CHF. I looked at the order and it had no time or when to give (premedicate or only PRN)So I am at fault but there were more than one pair of hands in this pot along with a badly written order. I was terminated. I was told that I didn't follow through. Then they said that I didn't even sign the progress note and that's when I told them that I did not write that. They said"oh...." I never receieved any written warnings nor had to sign for anything and I feel that I did not practice at 100% but it was a floor out of my realm. I hope all that reads this do not think that I think I am infallable. I am not. I just feel that this hospital had no intention of keeping me and were waiting to see me fall. I am a "6 month old nurse" in desperate need of a job and I need good references. I was going to stay at this one place until I hit my year mark. It does not look right when you go from place to place. I need some guidance here, if any body would be so kind. Thank you. Bindy :o
Specializes in E.D and Tele.
Dear Bindy

I can appreciate your feeling bullied. I realize that you are a new nurse, and that can be a stressful situation all by itself. Let me see if I understand this

situation with the blood transfusion. Most hospitals have a protocol to follow pre-transfusion, similar to the order shown to you by the Nursing Office.

As a nurse, it is your responsibility to cover your butt, which means you check and double check orders before starting a procedure like a transfusion. Never accept another nurses report without double checking in situations like this. It's just a safer way to practice. Take from someone who has learned the hard way. I, too, am outspoken and it has caused me some problems in this profession, not unlike what you have gone through. Fortunately, I did learn from my mistakes, i.e. learning not to make a sarcastic remark when asked to stay over. It will come back to haunt you, believe me. You might consider another area of nursing outside of a hospital setting. I, for one, do not like the politics that comes into play in that type of setting. I work for an agency that places CNA's in patients' homes. I am a field supervisor, and I spend my day visiting clients and doing evaluations. It works great for me, because there is no stress, and I go into the office once a week for a staff meeing. I set my own schedule. If you do decide to stay in the hospital setting, you are going to have to regroup and handle things a lot differently. Good luck to you.

I see your point, only too well. I know how I am, I pretty much have no taste for BS. I do know how to bite my tongue, I just was human when I let loose and said the "isn't it funny" comment. Not sorry, unfortunately, that I said it. I am sure I will here from some that will feel the need to slap my hand on that comment. But enough is enough. When you know you are getting sh*t on, and it's continual, any normal soul would lose it. Maybe outside would be good, but I I do work well with others, had for years. I am not a loner, by any stretch. I also like the adrenaline rush of having to be on top of things at all times. One bad experience does not throw me out as a good staff nurse. Sorry, it would take more than this situation to see me not working in that type of setting. Thanks for your imput. Bindy :)

Specializes in E.D and Tele.
take a deep breath and get back out there....there are unfortunately many unfair situations, you were I think doing the best you knew how and agree that a position at a teaching facility with an organized and extensive orientation/preceptor program may well be the way to go. So often we expect so much of new grads, it took all of us time to gain the experience you cant get in nursing school. Best of luck in your nursing career!

Thanks for your genuine support. Many of you made me feel much more positive while showing me what I can do better or differently. I really appreciate everyone's comments, they help steer me in the right direction! :)

Specializes in E.D and Tele.
Waiting for you to fall? I think they pushed you from behind. If they didn't fire you you would have been miserable working there.

There is no doubt! The last meeting, after saying what they said, all was quiet. Of course I made my comments and then just ended it. I think they were waiting for me to quit. I wouldn't. I recieved bonuses that would have to be given back.I also knew that this wouldn't be the end of my life. :chuckle So I just sat there................... :)

Bindy,

I don't know what the U/S situation is in your state, but in IL they are crying for U/S techs who make HUGE amounts of money, especially OB/GYN U/S techs because of the infertiltity practices here (IL is one of the few states that mandates infertility insurance, so there's of Repo/endo's here begging for U/S techs).

In some cases, the U/S techs make more than the docs! But I do understand that money isn't everything. But a good infertility program, if such exists in your area, may be a something to consider if you're up for it. My DH & I went thru infertility for 4+ years w/o success, but I did get to know my doc very well.

There is only one school in the area that has an U/S program; personally, given a choice, I'd flip to the U/S program if I could get in and just let the RN be a creditial after my name.

I, too, have had many bad experiences with hospital politics and don't 'play the game' very well. I mean, not at all. :chuckle

Good luck to you.

Specializes in Critical Care.
There is no doubt! The last meeting, after saying what they said, all was quiet. Of course I made my comments and then just ended it. I think they were waiting for me to quit. I wouldn't. I recieved bonuses that would have to be given back.I also knew that this wouldn't be the end of my life. :chuckle So I just sat there................... :)

Sounds like you were a target of bullies and scapegoated. Start fresh where you have no past. You're lucky to be out of there and rest assured they will move on to their next victim soon enough. Nursing can be a vicious profession where the women take out their frustrations through gossip and bullying, and management enjoys this and looks the other way, when their not actively participating, because then the workers will be preoccupied over all the drama rather than demanding better work conditions and training. So count yourself lucky to be out of there. Find a new hospital that offers a good training program, take your time, there's no need to rush into ICU. Also you need to get some solid experience before you try agency nursing.

Best of luck to you

I believe you ran into what I and several others call "Nancy Nurses". Those are the know-it-all's who have to "be the best" and make you feel like you are one inch tall and will never be as good as they are. I have met some of those same sister nurses. They can cause a good nurse to quit or be fired just because they have this self-power trip going on. The thing you have to learn is to stand up for yourself. You cannot let them beat you down. Do not worry about the finding another position thing and even not liking to move from job to job. My sister did it and she got excellent experience in all fields in the hospital. She is very valuable now. She has probably worked in at least 12 different hospitals or more and now can set her own hours.

I ran into pretty much the same thing you did when I first went to a hospital setting. I had worked in a nursing home right out of nursing school in 1995 because there were now hospital jobs for those in my graduating class. Most were luckey to get work in nursing homes. Then I did diaysis for almost 7 years. That is when I decided to try the hospital. Well, to make a long story short, the hospial tried me and convicted me and let me go. It was the worst year of my life. Stressed out from a move away from home after living there for 20 years, new life setting, moving ( in itself stressful), taking care of my daughter and her husband, new career move in to OB/GYN, and some nurses who were horrific! I felt like I had just gotten out of nursing school with those nurses. They were terrible to me. Then my Mom had heart surgery, I was ill much of the time myself, missed a lot of work. Then got fired. My self-esteem was all but ruined. I cried, figured no one would want to hire me knowing I was "let go". WRONG!!!! I got a job at the first place that I interviewed at. I was honest with them and they needed a nurse. I got the job. There is a nursing shortage! You won't have any trouble getting work. May God bless you and I pray that He will teach those "Nancy Nurses" that they too were once new at a job. They could have been chewed up and spit out too! Maybe they need to be good at sharing their knowledge and being a mentor (this is much nicer and more liked people) to someone who needs a break. We ALL need one now and then!!!

Specializes in E.D and Tele.
I believe you ran into what I and several others call "Nancy Nurses". Those are the know-it-all's who have to "be the best" and make you feel like you are one inch tall and will never be as good as they are. I have met some of those same sister nurses. They can cause a good nurse to quit or be fired just because they have this self-power trip going on. The thing you have to learn is to stand up for yourself. You cannot let them beat you down. Do not worry about the finding another position thing and even not liking to move from job to job. My sister did it and she got excellent experience in all fields in the hospital. She is very valuable now. She has probably worked in at least 12 different hospitals or more and now can set her own hours.

I ran into pretty much the same thing you did when I first went to a hospital setting. I had worked in a nursing home right out of nursing school in 1995 because there were now hospital jobs for those in my graduating class. Most were luckey to get work in nursing homes. Then I did diaysis for almost 7 years. That is when I decided to try the hospital. Well, to make a long story short, the hospial tried me and convicted me and let me go. It was the worst year of my life. Stressed out from a move away from home after living there for 20 years, new life setting, moving ( in itself stressful), taking care of my daughter and her husband, new career move in to OB/GYN, and some nurses who were horrific! I felt like I had just gotten out of nursing school with those nurses. They were terrible to me. Then my Mom had heart surgery, I was ill much of the time myself, missed a lot of work. Then got fired. My self-esteem was all but ruined. I cried, figured no one would want to hire me knowing I was "let go". WRONG!!!! I got a job at the first place that I interviewed at. I was honest with them and they needed a nurse. I got the job. There is a nursing shortage! You won't have any trouble getting work. May God bless you and I pray that He will teach those "Nancy Nurses" that they too were once new at a job. They could have been chewed up and spit out too! Maybe they need to be good at sharing their knowledge and being a mentor (this is much nicer and more liked people) to someone who needs a break. We ALL need one now and then!!!

Nancy Nurses.....That is pretty funny. I now have a word for them in my mind. I just hope I don't come in contact with too many of them from here on in. I read a lot about bullying in the workplace, one nurse friend on the board had e-mailed me a link. I will pull it up today and forward it to all of you. This is a problem, I believe from what I have been reading in this thread, that needs to be addressed. Knowledge about it is first the utmost importance. I will share the knowledge I had learned from the articles I had read. As far as your experience. There is no way you will go to hell when you die, you were already there. It it wasn't for the feedback I have recieved from this board, I don't know how I would feel now. Thank you for taking out your precious time and to all those who also did the same. Even though this is cyberspace, I still feel alot of warmth from all of you. God bless you and to all the rest on the board. You helped me with this quagmire. Bindy

Specializes in E.D and Tele.
Sounds like you were a target of bullies and scapegoated. Start fresh where you have no past. You're lucky to be out of there and rest assured they will move on to their next victim soon enough. Nursing can be a vicious profession where the women take out their frustrations through gossip and bullying, and management enjoys this and looks the other way, when their not actively participating, because then the workers will be preoccupied over all the drama rather than demanding better work conditions and training. So count yourself lucky to be out of there. Find a new hospital that offers a good training program, take your time, there's no need to rush into ICU. Also you need to get some solid experience before you try agency nursing.

Best of luck to you

Thanks Bugsy. I have an interview for an ER position. Training starts from diaper stage and on. That is what I need. The only problem is that it is far.....about 25 miles on major highways, I have a pig of a car, and the area is not so good. It also pays around $24.an hr. and there is city wage and gas to figure. But it is training and my husband and I are arguing about the pros and cons. He wants me around the corner, but I am afraid I won't find as much opportunity if I stay right around here. This is a city job. Also it is working three twelves, which I have been doing, and no weekends. What do you think? Feedback is great. Bindy

Bindy good luck on your ER position and I hope you have a better experience there.:)

The old saying is true that SOME nurses DO 'eat their young'. Some eat their old and in between as well. But there are always good hearted nurses out there too and when we start a new position, we need to find them and seek our mentoring there. Don't let the turkeys get you down.

Specializes in E.D and Tele.
Bindy good luck on your ER position and I hope you have a better experience there.:)

The old saying is true that SOME nurses DO 'eat their young'. Some eat their old and in between as well. But there are always good hearted nurses out there too and when we start a new position, we need to find them and seek our mentoring there. Don't let the turkeys get you down.

Thank you for your support and encouragement you have given me in the past several days. I went on the interview today, met the nurse manager and nurse leader of the ER....we talked for about an hour and had a fun time. Believe it or not. I asked a million questions, and the job was offered to me. They even gave me more money than expected. I will have a preceptor for three months and then a mentor each shift I am on for as long as I need them. I work three 12's and no weekends. I am use :) to 12's but I do realize this may be a little too much at first but we are going to give it a whirl. The people were so nice, unreal compared to were I came from. I am still in shock. HR called my husband and asked him what he thought. He was blown away.Now he is all for it where before he was not liking the fact of me driving into the city. He rather have me at the back door where I was working. I feel though that the opportunity in the suburbs isn't available for a new grad or many others that aren't a new grad compared to the city. I am very excited and very scared at the same time. ER is a far cry from med-surg! As far as the "other" hospital, I asked for an exit interview so I can at least attempt to let HR know what I went through so maybe another nurse won't experience the same. Here's to hoping!Warmest regards, Bindy :)

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