New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2

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Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.

Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.

Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA

Part 1 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand - Nursing for Nurses

@glioblastoma:

hi!

so do u mean il put the address and name of the hospital where i am currently working in question no. 6???

can anyone pls verify this... thanks

btw, my sister in australia will be the one to pay for my application. il ask her about ur questions and il email u as soon as i can :)

yup u r right about that!

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Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
OMG! Haoyin, you're in Australia already?

Haoyin just recently finished his BP, i do not know if he went back temporarily in the Philippines.. Last time i checked he was still in Oz..

NURSEONDUTY: Sorry cant answer, you really need to get accurate answers from those who actually applied..

GLIOBLASTOMA: I assume you got your answers already.. better prepare maximum budget on the fees..

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Hello everyone,

Is there a Filipino RN here who is a second courser and took nursing for 2yrs that was assessed as RN by the new regulating body "AHRPA"?

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Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
Hello everyone,

Is there a Filipino RN here who is a second courser and took nursing for 2yrs that was assessed as RN by the new regulating body "AHRPA"?

none that ive heard of... perhaps 3 years, but cant remember 2 yrs. applicant.... you'll be the first..

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Specializes in ER,med surg, nursing home.
none that ive heard of... perhaps 3 years, but cant remember 2 yrs. applicant.... you'll be the first..

oh no! Cioman 94, where did you get this fact ? is this your opinion or is this a fact? hope to hear from you soon bud, thanks!

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Hi Silverdragon, I am currently Registered as an Rn in WA, currently in NZ working for an Agency, I like have a permanent job in western australia, I got only one year experience in the philippines. Can you recomend an employer in western australia? Thanks

Dongars

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Our nursing degree, unless you do honours, 3 years of pure nursing subjects, no history of Australia or indigenous languages of the 1700's we did that in secondary school, just all nursing subjects 4 full units for 6 semesters. there are 2 year Masters as a first nursing degree, but thats at Masters level, at times universities have offered Enrolled nurses credit into undergrad nursing degrees because they have studied so much at tafe and get credit, they have also in the past offered 2 year nursing degrees to people with non nursing degrees, but on saying that if it did not have any science in the first degree they had to do a summer semester and the other degree had to be a 3 year degree.

I have been told that some Phillipino degrees are equal to our certificate 1V so if you have done something else for a couple of years and then a second course in nursing undergrad that is only 2 years of nursing subjects, less than 24 nursing subjects, I would hope they would question this as it is not equivalent to an Australian nursing degree.

Many ADN nurses from the US have been declined RN registration in past due to this equivalence if they have had not much experience. It has been noted though that some Phillipino Unis embed the 2 years course and combine it with the other 2 years and call it a 4 year Bachelor of NUrsing science, degree when it is not a four years of nursing. They do not pass your national registration test but still claim they are a candidate which of course they are and have in the past still been considered for registration here by the NBV even though they are not registered in the Phillipines, this is still a consideration under AHPRA, not being registered in home country. New Zealand put an end to this and heres hoping that AHPRA do as well though they will have scrutinize transcripts thoroughly.

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Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
Hi Silverdragon, I am currently Registered as an Rn in WA, currently in NZ working for an Agency, I like have a permanent job in western australia, I got only one year experience in the philippines. Can you recomend an employer in western australia? Thanks

Dongars

hope you dont mine me giving unsolicited advice, it may take lightyears before silverdragon can answer your question, she/he has other tasks to do seriously speaking.. you may check the website seek.com.au for job opportunities..

but for employers?? depends what field you wanna work with, aged care or private or government hospital or others?

if you wanna work with government then apply at DOH WA...

wanna be in private hospital, the biggest operators in the country are HEALTHSCOPE and RAMSAY..

wanna be in aged care, the biggest of them include (not in order) Bupa, Domain Principal, Aegis, LL Prime Lease, Regis..

with the current employment competition and situation, my uncalled for advice is i recommend all of the above..

also try google "hospitals and nursing homes in Western Australia", to get more information than i gave..

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Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
oh no! Cioman 94, where did you get this fact ? is this your opinion or is this a fact? hope to hear from you soon bud, thanks!

jakey,

in page 2 i have a related comment/post on this issue of second courser, you may read that.... the summary of my explanation was that, since AHPRA has just been operating, then we have limited "precedent" on how it would approve/disapprove applicants of "varying" credentials (e.g. 2nd courser, 2-3 year course, 12 year education system).. the fact that we do not have precedent cases yet as far as i know based on the experience of other forumers, then we just have to wait and see for the accurate answers to your questions..

good luck..

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Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
Our nursing degree, unless you do honours, 3 years of pure nursing subjects, no history of Australia or indigenous languages of the 1700's we did that in secondary school, just all nursing subjects 4 full units for 6 semesters. there are 2 year Masters as a first nursing degree, but thats at Masters level, at times universities have offered Enrolled nurses credit into undergrad nursing degrees because they have studied so much at tafe and get credit, they have also in the past offered 2 year nursing degrees to people with non nursing degrees, but on saying that if it did not have any science in the first degree they had to do a summer semester and the other degree had to be a 3 year degree.

I have been told that some Phillipino degrees are equal to our certificate 1V so if you have done something else for a couple of years and then a second course in nursing undergrad that is only 2 years of nursing subjects, less than 24 nursing subjects, I would hope they would question this as it is not equivalent to an Australian nursing degree.

Many ADN nurses from the US have been declined RN registration in past due to this equivalence if they have had not much experience. It has been noted though that some Phillipino Unis embed the 2 years course and combine it with the other 2 years and call it a 4 year Bachelor of NUrsing science, degree when it is not a four years of nursing. They do not pass your national registration test but still claim they are a candidate which of course they are and have in the past still been considered for registration here by the NBV even though they are not registered in the Phillipines, this is still a consideration under AHPRA, not being registered in home country. New Zealand put an end to this and heres hoping that AHPRA do as well though they will have scrutinize transcripts thoroughly.

hi ceridwyn,

i got your points above... i just want to share something which i just recently realized after reading your recent discussions on Philippine nursing education..

Here's what i noticed or realized:

For (1st courser) 4 year nursing graduate, yes they do have "non nursing subjects", but actually (for simplification purposes), the said subjects could be lumped/finished in one school year, thus the remaining 3 years would be "purely" nursing subjects which in my opinion would address the concern of what we call 3 year pure nursing subjects.. besides that, here in the Phils. the usual 1 school year is composed of 2 semesters (with options of "summer classes"), but for nursing students, they still have classes during "summer classes", unlike other degrees(e.g. business) which normally do not have required classes during "summer"..

For 2nd coursers with 3 year course.. they usually study nursing for 3 years which actually comprised 6 semesters plus 2 summer classes.. they still have "non nursing subjects" during this 3 years but these subjects are just very few because they have taken/finished many of the "non nursing subjects" during their 1st course/degree.. so if we exclude these very few "non nursing subjects" then the remaining pure nursing subjects are equal and the same with the 4 year nursing graduates..

Thus both 1st courser and 2nd courser graduates will actually end up with the same nursing subjects and number of hours in classroom and clinical exposure, if we are going to list and count them..

Prior AHPRA, many Aus. nursing boards (if not all) require a school document where the nursing subjects are enumerated which include the name and description of the subjects, the number of hours of classroom and clinical exposures.. I believe they required it back then so that they could easily evaluate and compare the "pure" nursing subjects that Phil. nurses obtained versus the standards required by Australia, which of course is a logical way to do so, and I agree that it should be done, and im sure you too will agree with me on this... I'm just surprised though (if my information is correct) that AHPRA presently do not require that type of document that i described..

for other type of nursing graduates, errrr, i do not have an opinion yet.. just the above types...

Nways, above are just what i realized and noticed.. at the end of the day, i just have to wait and see for AHPRA's decisions on said matters..

peace,,, and thanks as always for your help to us..

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hi! can anyone please enlighten us Phil BSN-RNs with:

1. Phil BSN-RN vs AU Nsg Cert I-V or AU BSN-RN (not sure if it's really I-V hehe, i think this is where EN/RN enters, or whatever! ahihi)

2. which of the latter is equivalent to Phil BSN-RN?

ahihi!

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hi! can anyone please enlighten us Phil BSN-RNs with:

1. Phil BSN-RN vs AU Nsg Cert I-V or AU BSN-RN (not sure if it's really I-V hehe, i think this is where EN/RN enters, or whatever! ahihi)

2. which of the latter is equivalent to Phil BSN-RN?

ahihi!

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"Certificate III", "Certificate IV", are courses which are not "Bachelors degree", most Unis categorized these as "vocational or training" courses.. Example: Certificate III in Aged Care (which makes u a qualified PCA, AIN, caregiver as called in Phils.)..

"B" would of course mean "Bachelors" degree..

I forgot what "category" EN belong, is it "associate", "undergraduate", but one thing for sure EN is not "Bachelors" degree holder..

Phil. BSN is "equivalent" to Aus. BSN, only because of the "B" in it.. And that's why assessments are made by AHPRA on applicants so as to answer your no. 2 question..

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