New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand Part 2

[Silverdragon102]

Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.

Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.

Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA

Part 1 thread New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand - Nursing for Nurses

[cioman94]

hi!

just to reiterate something:

i think this excerpt from both "AGOS-04 and Nursing and Midwifery Recency of Practice Registration Standard" indirectly answers the immortal question on whether nursing volunteer experience in the Philippines will be considered or not: The time was spent undertaking postgraduate education leading to an award or qualification that is relevant to the practice of nursing and/or midwifery.

so aside from nursing volunteer experience, will master's degree taken in the phil be counted too?

please correct me if i am wrong...

i will not discuss about "volunteer"..

I will discuss the context of that "masteral degree course" vis-a-vis "Nursing and midwifery RECENCY of practice registration standard" of a certain nurse..

AHPRA requires that you must have practiced recently (if you're last practice was 2004 which is more than 5 years ago, then that you don't comply/qualify with the requirement).. However, if you undertook postgraduate education, then that will be considered as a practice vis-a-vis the issue of "recency".. So if work last 2004, then stop working, later on took masteral in year 2009, then that 2009 will be considered you recent practice, thus you qualify the rule of recency..

as you may notice, i discussed the issue of "recency of practice" in relation to taking masteral course..

[cioman94]

hi nosaj! how long (weeks? months?) did it take AHPRA to reply to you from the time you sent to them your documents? another question, does castlemaine require you the 456 visa? i thought it is more convenient post-BP graduation if one holds the business visa...

"....i thought it is more convenient post-BP graduation if one holds the business visa..."

Subclass 456 - Temporary short stay Business Visa

Subclass 457 - Temporary long stay Business Visa

Student Visa

[cioman94]

hi everyone im a newbie here.. i recently received my letter of offer from castlemaine health to do the bp on feb 2011.. ive been reading the whole thread and im still confused on how to apply for my visa 456.... anyone who already underwent the process? help! tnx!

have you already checked the DIAC website, and read the step by step instruction.. once you read it, your confusion will be 75% reduced, then the remaining 25% confusion we will help you about it.. but first kindly read the website.. actually 456 visa is very easy, so far nobody has complained about it, they were actually cheering about it.. no joke, serious..

[cioman94]

hi everyone! i've completed (i think) ahpra's requirements.

i used agos-04 for this query...please check the link

ahpra - web page or document could not be found

ahpra requires the original cv and sos right? yes...

please validate if only the following are to be certified/notarized:

i will validate that the following are to be certified....

passport

license prc id, cert. of registration

proof of identities

transcript

diploma

qualifying exams (nle, nclex) i dont know if you are required "verification of license" for your nclex us license (whatever they call it in california)..

(did i miss something?)

there are contrasting excerpts from the agos-04 (please take note of the red font color)

1. on page 1, it says that "all supporting documentation must: * be certified in accordance with the australian health practitioner regulation agency's (ahpra) guidelines; the context of this "rule" was to emphasize the guidelines of "how to certify", not what are to be certified..

2. however, on page 9, the checklist only requires the passport, license and relevant academic qualifications and transcripts to be certified, as evidenced by this:

the context of this checklist is to guide you what to submit...

section j: checklist

a certified photocopy of your passport

question 3

a certified photocopy of your licence

question 4

certified copies of all your relevant academic qualifications and transcripts

question 11

a separate sheet with additional qualifications

question 11

certificate of registration status or certificate of good standing

question 12

a separate sheet with additional registration details

question 12

your curriculum vitae (cv)

question 13

a separate sheet with your criminal history and explanation of circumstances in australia

question 14

a separate sheet with your criminal history and explanation of circumstances overseas

question 15

evidence of the successful completion of an approved english language test

question 17

evidence of your secondary education to the requisite level, taught and assessed in english

question 17

a separate sheet with your impairment details

question 20

a separate sheet with your suspension or cancellation details

question 21

a separate sheet with your cancellation or refusal details

question 22

a separate sheet with your disqualifications details

question 24

a separate sheet with your conditions, undertakings or limitations details

question 23

a separate sheet with your conduct performance or health proceedings

question 25

so in certifying documents, which is to follow, page 1 or page 9 of agos-04?

... i intentionally capitalize the above comments, not for anything else, but just for you to easily find it..

peace...

[glioblastoma]

i will not discuss about "volunteer"..

I will discuss the context of that "masteral degree course" vis-a-vis "Nursing and midwifery RECENCY of practice registration standard" of a certain nurse..

AHPRA requires that you must have practiced recently (if you're last practice was 2004 which is more than 5 years ago, then that you don't comply/qualify with the requirement).. However, if you undertook postgraduate education, then that will be considered as a practice vis-a-vis the issue of "recency".. So if work last 2004, then stop working, later on took masteral in year 2009, then that 2009 will be considered you recent practice, thus you qualify the rule of recency..

as you may notice, i discussed the issue of "recency of practice" in relation to taking masteral course..

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@cioman94

hi!so in short, you agree with master's degree as a means to get experience too.

it makes me think of postponing my AU application and enroll in MAN/MSN...whatever! but i really want to study my master's at a foreign university! (ambisyosa!) ahihi

[glioblastoma]

@ cioman94

hi! thanks for replying about my "notary query"

when i saw the big letters, i thought you were shouting at me. lol! but then it was only for "emphasis" purposes

i took the AGOS-04 literally! if it were NLE or NCLEX, i would already be guilty of over-analysis! ahihi. maybe i'm just too anxious that AU registration is so "mabusisi" (mabusisi: so many things to do)

btw, why did you include PRC cert on the docs to be notarized? i thought on that one, applicants should ask PRC to send an orig cert of reg/good standing to AHPRA...

[haydeeting]

hi..i've been reading thru everyone's posts and still am confused with my case. I'm planning on taking up Bachelor of Nursing postregistration program at University of Ballarat. The program is for 1 year. My questions are:

1. will this lead to registration as Registered Nurse in AU?

2. if not, after the program commences, what are my options so i can become a registered nurse in AU?

by the way, im already an RN here in the Phils. with 1 year volunteer exp.

I hope I can be enlightened as this is an expensive program to take. I am coursing my application thru IDP by the way. Thanks everyone.

[cioman94]

@ cioman94

hi! thanks for replying about my "notary query"

when i saw the big letters, i thought you were shouting at me. lol! but then it was only for "emphasis" purposes

i took the AGOS-04 literally! if it were NLE or NCLEX, i would already be guilty of over-analysis! ahihi. maybe i'm just too anxious that AU registration is so "mabusisi" (mabusisi: so many things to do)

btw, why did you include PRC cert on the docs to be notarized? i thought on that one, applicants should ask PRC to send an orig cert of reg/good standing to AHPRA...

hehehehe, ya ryt, indeed like i lost my patience and shouting.. dont judge the post by its 1st sentence.. hehehe..

you originally wrote "license" (after "passport") in the list to be certified.. if i ask you back, what do you mean by "license"? i assume you are referring to your Phil. RN license which is evidenced by "cert. of reg." and "PRC license ID".... unless you have another meaning for that "license" you type..

"cert. of good standing" is not "license" per strict definition.. i think you know what i mean by now..

since local dialect is not allowed here, i'll translate a common expression in english:

"you can carry it teh" ....ahahaha.. hows dat for IELTS ha?! hehehe.

[cioman94]

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@cioman94

hi!so in short, you agree with master's degree as a means to get experience too.

it makes me think of postponing my AU application and enroll in MAN/MSN...whatever! but i really want to study my master's at a foreign university! (ambisyosa!) ahihi

actually at this point of time that AHPRA is just starting, nobody can answer your question.. Why? remember to take everything in the context of Australian viewpoint..

your question is actually similar to asking: "Will my PHILIPPINES BACHELORs degree be recognized by AHPRA or not?" Well you know the answer to this, i dont wanna repeat my discussion on this..

"Will your PHILIPPINE MAN/MSN be considered by AHPRA as experience vis-a-vis recency rules?" i cant answer this until there is a precedent case by AHPRA.. everything is new, we do not have basis yet as i explained in page 1 and 2..

cheers....

[cioman94]

hi..i've been reading thru everyone's posts and still am confused with my case. I'm planning on taking up Bachelor of Nursing postregistration program at University of Ballarat. The program is for 1 year. My questions are:

1. will this lead to registration as Registered Nurse in AU? Some forumers can provide answers to this.. My personal advice to you and for your own good, you must contact the school you are applying and directly ask them point blank your question.. They will answer you yes or no.. Besides, their answer will be reliable than mine or any forumers here..

2. if not, after the program commences, what are my options so i can become a registered nurse in AU?

Im just wondering, have you heard about BP? just 2-3 months instead of 1 year? it's cheaper than that 1 year course.. I dont know the reason why you want to study 1 year when you can study 2-3 months to become Australian RN (unless you have personal reasons, then so be it, no probs).. Of course unless you have lots of money, then indeed 1 yr. course is good.. So im just curious really, why spend more money if you can spend less..

just shoot your questions here, we will either directly answer them or refer you to a page or refer you to a website.. peace... good luck..

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by the way, im already an RN here in the Phils. with 1 year volunteer exp.

I hope I can be enlightened as this is an expensive program to take. I am coursing my application thru IDP by the way. Thanks everyone.

Please see answers above... good luck...

[cioman94]

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@cioman94

hi!so in short, you agree with master's degree as a means to get experience too.

it makes me think of postponing my AU application and enroll in MAN/MSN...whatever! but i really want to study my master's at a foreign university! (ambisyosa!) ahihi

i tot i didnt answer this yet, sorry double posting.... my fault..

[haidoraemon]

which one has cheaper "processing"? new zealand or australia?