New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

[rnrn07]

Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

[i.kristianmark]

Ok guys here it goes. Please be aware that we all have different situations & the advice of AHPRA to me & my batchmates may not apply to everyone. I finished my BP last July 30, 2010. As we all know, National Registration took effect last July 1, 2010. So by the time we completed our BP, the Nurses Board of Victoria was replaced by AHPRA. I was initially assessed by NBV and in the past, it used to be that after completing the BP , you just had to wait for your registration after the BP provider has informed the board of your BP completion. At present, here is what we know under AHPRA:

1) Nurses who applied to NBV but did not get assessed by NBV before July 1:

- They were sent a letter asking them to submit a new AHPRA application, some new documents or revisions requested, some not needed since they were already submitted.

2) Nurses who applied & were assessed by the NBV before July 1. Is set to undergo the BP after July 1.

- So far I have not read anything about this with regards to what they should do. Whether they should re-apply with AHPRA or not.

3) Nurses who applied & were assessed by the NBV before July 1. Underwent BP & completed it after July 1. (This is the category where I fall).

- AHPRA advised us to complete the new AHPRA application form (overseas nurses) BUT with specific directions on what to answer & what to leave blank since our documents that we gave to NBV are already with them. Let me also state that there are a couple of corrections on the AHPRA application form. For example, in question number 6 of the application letter, if you answered no, this box actually refers to the place where you were recently employed. Yup, if it was in the Philippines then write the hospital or place of employment in the Philippines. There is also a correction in number 16 where we were advised to answer YES. I know this is quite confusing & a lot of people aren't actually pleased with what's going on. I know it must be quite a daunting task for AHPRA so we have to expect these minor glitches in the transition period.

- That being said, we did not need to again submit new certified documents. The only documents that we were asked to submit was proof of identity http://www.ahpra.gov.au/registration/registration-process/proof-of-identity.aspx which included among others a certified copy of the passport & visa. The certification of completion of the BP as well & a police clearance in your country in our case an NBI clearance. Assessment letter of NBV. All certified true copies. As I read the pdf file of the proof of identity, you will find it a bit confusing as well especially for us who has undergone the BP.

- So here's the bitter pill to swallow. How long is the wait for the registration in our case? It's 3 months. Whether it's under or over 3 months we do not know. The only consolation is that they will try to put us on the priority list due to the status of our visas which are short stay 456 visas. Now I do not know if this will be the same for those who got assessed by NBV & are to commence their BPs. I advise you to ask AHPRA if you have the chance. As soon as you arrive in Australia, it would be a good idea to go to the AHPRA office & ask them if yo also need to submit a new AHPRA application letter.

I might have missed some things but I think this is pretty much it with regards to what I gathered from my classmates who went to the AHPRA office. Don't be disheartened guys, this is relatively a minor setback. I know it's quite a tedious process but hey, persistence is the key to success.

Clearly I fall under category number two here. I think cioman94 is right. We have to prepare the documents that are required of imsodizzy by AHPRA. mooh mooh, here we go. Hay. Rough sailing awaits. What really concerns me right now is the major major three months waiting for registration. Oh Miss Raj.

[rncoco]

After i have resubmitted my application to ahpra, i got a reply form them just yesterday that my dox are currently being assessed and that should further info be required, a case manager will correspond with me. Having read their reply, it is enough consolation that at least my papers are being reviewed. So dont lose hope guys. Just continue praying!:)

after you have resubmitted your docs, how long did it take for them to respond to you? when did you submit your docs? did you contact them first?

[rncoco]

if youre eyeing Deakin University,where i also did my BP, you have to review your pathophysiology and journal writing, as you will be doing these things at deakin.

by the way, im already working at The (Royal Prince) Alfred Hospital in Melbourne...Acute Assessment and Acute Medical Unitsss...good luck to all of us

did graduating from a university (like deakin) give you an edge over those who graduated from non-university BP providers? I see that you have been employed in a great hospital, congratulations for that :) im just curious if hospitals prefer university BP graduates. thanks!

[cioman94]

did graduating from a university (like deakin) give you an edge over those who graduated from non-university BP providers? I see that you have been employed in a great hospital, congratulations for that :) im just curious if hospitals prefer university BP graduates. thanks!

just to share somethings.. minor minor only..

- ryan09 graduated from a reputable nursing school here in the philippines, which provided him excellent nursing education and skills..

- he himself is a major major very good nursing graduate and filipino RN..

- he is a PR which will give a very big edge too versus applicants who still need sponsorship..

- so in his case, whether he took his BP in a non-university provider, i would still bet that he would get a good position..

- one of the crucial thing is your performance in the interview.. nobody ask me where i had my BP during interview and i didn't even write it in my resume... your license number is all that you need in the resume..

- one thing that will give you a big edge though over BP graduates.. if you are a "6 mos. Conversion" graduate, then men you will have a big advantage..

peace..

[rncoco]

- one thing that will give you a big edge though over BP graduates.. if you are a "6 mos. Conversion" graduate, then men you will have a big advantage..

peace..

is this the one offered in curtin? i thought it was one year conversion?

[cioman94]

is this the one offered in curtin? i thought it was one year conversion?

amm, actually,... i was speaking in general terms about "6-12-24 mos. conversion programs" versus BP... dont knw which and what schools offer conversion programs but i am very sure it is being offered by certain providers..

good luck..

[bekimon]

guys, a friend of mine is asking help how to interpret the reply of NMBWA to her query for applicant status, and they said:

According to our database an eligibility letter to enrol in an accredited bridging program was issued to you on the 14/05/10.

On successful completion of an accredited bridging program or an accredited conversion program, the course provider send a statement of student eligibility letter to the Board.

We then apply the registration fee: Registration fee - Amounts payable are as follows: $120.00 if registration is being granted between January and June; and $60.00 if registration is granted between July and December of each year.

sorry, not familiar with NMBWA, what is that registration fee for? is that the fee for registering with AHPRA?. Does NMBWA not send hard copies of their eligibilities just like NBV?, they issued it on May, and its already Aug, before she knew she already have one

[cioman94]

guys, a friend of mine is asking help how to interpret the reply of NMBWA to her query for applicant status, and they said:

According to our database an eligibility letter to enrol in an accredited bridging program was issued to you on the 14/05/10.

On successful completion of an accredited bridging program or an accredited conversion program, the course provider send a statement of student eligibility letter to the Board.

We then apply the registration fee: Registration fee – Amounts payable are as follows: $120.00 if registration is being granted between January and June; and $60.00 if registration is granted between July and December of each year.

sorry, not familiar with NMBWA, what is that registration fee for? is that the fee for registering with AHPRA?. Does NMBWA not send hard copies of their eligibilities just like NBV?, they issued it on May, and its already Aug, before she knew she already have one

- I assume that he has not yet undergone or finished a BP.. ryt?? becoz my answer below will be based on this assumption..

- i assume he did not receive the said May 14, 2010 eligibility letter that was sent, this is one of his problem.. where is the letter? delayed mail? lost mail? or perhaps NMBWA erroneously was not able to really mail it? this is a valid question that he should search for an answer from NMBWA.. either way, he needs the letter for him to enrol in BP schools..

- at this point of time, NMBWA is not a member or included with AHPRA, so forget AHPRA at this point of time..

AHPRA will come into the picture sometime Oct./Nov. 2010 when NBMWA will be merged into it, that's their plan..

- the registration fee is the registration fee per se when you are granted a registration as nurse, therefor you become a Registered Nurse.. if he completes his BP then the Board will process the registration therefor he pays the said registration fees.. if he fails to complete his BP then no need to pay for registration fee, if however the registration fee was collected in advance, that amount will be reimbursed to him (if he decides or is not going to be registered)..

- they have that scheduling of fees as you wrote above, depending what month you are registered then there is a corresponding amount of registration fee, as you may notice based on what you've written above.,. if there is over-collection/payment of fees, just request for reimbursement, and they will do that, no sweat..

---- now, slight complications will start once WA becomes a member or merged with AHPRA (sometime Oct/Nov. 2010).. i bet that he has not yet gotten a slot in any of the BP providers, therefor i believe he will be able to get a slot after Oct.Nov.2010 which means he will then be under the rules of AHPRA.. by that time the slight concerns that imsodizzy had discussed just recently will also happened to him..

i hope this helps clarifies the situation of your friendship..

major major gud luck..

[imsodizzy]

Hello guys, good news...my batchmate who submitted her re-application to AHPRA a few days ago (See my previous posts) & has received her registration. So the wait might not be 3 months in our case. My advise to the others who were initially assessed by NBV is to ask AHPRA what to do concerning their case so they can submit their re-application asap if needed.

[Haoyin]

Hi guys!!!

[gemini_star, BSN, RN]

hows the bp haoyin?

[kashieza]

Hi there! Can Anyone help me with the Bridging Course in Australia, please? I would like to know important information about it and if ever i finished the course, can I be able to have a job right then? We know for a fact that bridging course is very expensive that is why I wanna make sure that i can be able to have a job after finishing the course. I'm a graduate of 2009 and I only have 6 months of training in Operating room.

Thanks :redpinkhe

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