New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

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Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

hi,

If you are applying for a tourist visa or any other visa, the money doesn't need to be in your account. If you have a friend who let's say owns a business, you can get a letter from him/her saying that he/she would be responsible for all your expenses while you are in Australia. Then you need to get his/her (or Company's) bank statement.

I brought my niece to Australia on tourist visa and I got a letter from my husband (as the CEO of his company) and his company's bank statement. Got the visa within 3 days.........

thanks for the response maam. if you dont mind me asking, what's the intent of your niece in coming over to OZ? was it for vacation purpose? or did she take a BP? :)

im confused about these two things -health and character requirements. you said these should be done prior to lodgement of the application but when i searched the immi.gov.au. to check the panel doctors, it says:

when do i visit a panel doctor?

you should not have your visa medical examination until you have been formally requested to do so by the office processing your visa application.

applicants outside australia

you must arrange your health examination with a panel doctor and/or panel radiology clinic nominated by the australian government. unless otherwise indicated, health examinations conducted overseas are only acceptable if conducted by a panel doctor/radiologist.

you will be advised by the department if a medical and/or radiological examination is required as part of your visa application.

if you require both a medical and radiological examination you can arrange an appointment with a panel clinic that performs both medical and radiological examinations. alternatively you can initially arrange an appointment for your medical examination with a panel doctor who will refer you to an associated panel radiology clinic for your chest x-ray.

if you only require a radiological examination, you may need a referral from a doctor in order to make an appointment with a panel radiology clinic or you may be able to make an appointment directly with a panel radiology clinic. if you are unsure, contact your preferred panel radiology clinic to see if a referral is necessary. if a referral is required, you do not need to attend a panel doctor to obtain a referral. instead you may obtain a referral from your local doctor.

after you have lodged your application, the processing office may provide you with the health examination forms and a list of panel doctors.

you can also obtain a list of panel doctors and radiology clinics in your country, territory or region that are authorised to perform medical and radiological examinations by following the link below.

see: immigration panel doctors

when do i arrange a health examination?

applicants outside australia

do not attend a health examination before you lodge your visa application unless the information about your visa specifically asks you to do so. otherwise, you will be advised by the department if and when to attend a health examination.

what is the character requirement?

everyone who wishes to enter australia must be assessed against the character requirements.

meeting the character requirement for temporary and permanent migration

for the australian government to determine whether you are of good character, you may be asked to provide police certificates for each country you have lived in for 12 months or more over the last ten (10) years since turning 16.

if you are applying outside australia, you do not have to provide this information when you apply. you will be advised when it is required.

im confused on when to submit these things. i will be lodging my application in the phil thru a rep. (im currently outside the phil). if i do submit medical check-ups prior to lodgement is there any form as a guideline or do i just go to the panel doctor? -fortunatley there is an approved panel doctor here.

character requirement - do i just submit a copy, certified true copy or original nbi/police clearance.

but then...

the information i have gathered suggests that these should be satisfied upon the request of the consulate. on the other hand, i don't wanna cause any delay by not poviding these initally. confused!

paging drednag! how are you goin about yours?

hehehe, im as confused as you, bro... i am about to file my application for my 456 visa this tuesday (monday is a holiday here)..but with the advise to get the medicals and character reference first...now, i think i will have to do that first...i think it's a sound advise since medicals are valid for one year and i guess the panel doctors know what tests are usually required, right?:up::up::up: heeelllpppp:confused::lol2:

by the way, do we have to get a serology for some of the immunisation requirements of etea? only st. luke's does that...i cant locate my pedia anymore (my immunisations were given by different doctors anyway)..or can we just get a certification from the doctor on the history of disease (meaning that we had measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. before)..how do we get one for diptheria? my doctor said they dont give it anymore since it's a childhood disease...again...heeelllpppp, please..:confused::uhoh3::up::up::up:

@ newmac: congratulations, bro for getting a seat for etea's october intake. if you'd accept the offer, looks like we'd be classmates after all... hehe! would've been nicer if drednag could join us but he'd beaten us to an earlier slot. hehehe! see you then and stay in touch, bro! :D

@ drednag: any word from you, bro? have you lodged your visa application already? i'm still waiting on word from etea if they could give me an earlier intake but it looks like no one from your class plans to withdraw... otherwise, i'm giving myself a few weeks to lodge my visa application... for the meantime, i'd do my immunisation then my medicals first... a pm would suffice, bro. thanks! :cool:

hey reiken..sent you two pms, bro..did you get it? if not, maybe your inbox is full? anyway, i have not yet submitted my visa application..i was about to submit it this tuesday but as advised here, i will get my medicals first.. have you completed your immunisations, bro? im still trying to complete mine... :rolleyes::cool::D

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@newmac and drednag:

The advise not to go for medicals before you lodge the application as per diac website makes sense because not all visas would require a medical exam or a chest xray. Example if you are a citizen of Findland and you never stayed in a country that is deemed high risk for TB for more than three months, you will not be required medicals. However if even if you are from Finland but during your stay in aus you will enter a classroom or health facility as nurse, doctor,dentist, or paramedic to work or to train, you will be required the hiv, hep b, hep c, etc.(refer to form 1163i). So to be safe and so as not to incur unecessary expenses, diac advises not to go have your medicals before you lodge your application. But if you are from the Philippines, you are required to have chest xray as minimum, under special circumstances, like training to be a dr, nurse,dentist, you will be required to have the full medical test. You can actually lodge your application first, then wait for the case officer to call you and inform you of the needed medicals but you have to remember that it takes two weeks for the panel doctor to send all the results to DIAC, you wont even be able to see the results. If everything is ok a decision can be made right away. But if there are issues, like crystals in urine, albuminuria, glucosuria, High Blood pressure, you will be referred to specialists and undergo further tests like sgpt sgot ecg creatinine clearance fbs, etc, . you will not be given clearance until the problem is resolved and treated. then your medical report will have to be sent to Australia to be reviewed by a Medical Officer of the Commonwealth. Your case officer cannot decide on his own regarding health matters and will only abide with the decision of the MOC. this takes times so you wont get your 456 in just three days. When you lodge your visa application thru VIA centers or through courier, you even have to include the receipts for you medical exams from the accredited panel doctor to facilitate quick approval. I have read in the Philippine Australian embassy website before that it would be better to have your medicals before you lodge your applications to avoid delay, I tried to locate it yesterday but I cant find it.. However, if you already have the complete documentation for 456 approval, you can already lodge the application now and wait for the case officer to call you. This info is just to make you aware of the possibilities that might happen when you thought that the approval is just 3 days because that is the average approval time as posted on the diac website. For example, the BP program starts October 1, 2010. If you lodge your application August 14 with no medicals done before hand, you may still be granted the visa before Oct 1. But if you have medical issues, you will not be able to get your visa before Oct 1, and I doubt if you will be able to get a refund for the payment made to your BP provider. Normally refunds are allowed if cancelled at least two weeks before the start of the program so that's going to be a waste of money. And sometimes even if you really have no medical problems but by some strike of luck your chest xray might show tiny spots or plain artifacts, you will be in trouble because it will take a long time to clear that. One of my friends had this problem. It was only an artifact on the xray, as a result of wrong chemical or process maybe, and he almost didnt make it. Please do not take what i have posted as true and correct as I am not a migration agent. You have to take all these with a grain of salt. But as per experience, I had completed my medicals 3 months before and my 456 approval was only three days.

Specializes in Aged Care.
thank you javRN. :up::up::up: whew i think ill be weighing options from here on. but one more question, when given a chance of obtaining either 676 or 679 visa, will I be allowed to take the BP? are there any restrictions under these visas aside from the length of stay?

I think thats ok as long as the training or study is less than 3 months in duration. I had three Indians and two Korean batchmates on a 676. As for the 679, per DIAC website you are allowed to study for three months so that should not be a problem as well. You will not be required financial documentation if you go for 679, i think thats the visa subclass granted to the niece of nasruasim, because for other visa types you need to show diac that you have ready and unlimited access to the account you showed them. As for the restrictions, i know you are not allowed to work.

679 is single entry no further stay, 676 may be single or multiple entry, with or without no further stay condition.

got your point jav rn! hey, three weeks ago my triglycerides was 2 points higher than the normal -is this gonna be a problem? are they even gonna chek that as part of the medical exam? :( i didnt notice it in the medical exam form, by the way all forms are in the immi.gov.au website for health requirements.

how about the character requirement? do i just provide a copy of the nbi clearance or should it be an original or certified true copy?

thanks reiken, im askin etea the same thing as well -earlier dates.

dred, antibodies check as suggested by ryan. ill check the approved panel doctor here today hopefully they process faster than st. lukes.

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got your point jav rn! hey, three weeks ago my triglycerides was 2 points higher than the normal -is this gonna be a problem? are they even gonna chek that as part of the medical exam? :( i didnt notice it in the medical exam form, by the way all forms are in the immi.gov.au website for health requirements.

how about the character requirement? do i just provide a copy of the nbi clearance or should it be an original or certified true copy?

thanks reiken, im askin etea the same thing as well -earlier dates.

dred, antibodies check as suggested by ryan. ill check the approved panel doctor here today hopefully they process faster than st. lukes.

Triglycerides won't be a problem. If UA is ok, negative cxr, negative hiv, hep b, hep c, you should be ok. If you have proteinuria chances are you will be required creatinine clearance. If you have glucosuria, you might be asked for fbs or hba1c. If you have high bp you might be required ecg, creatinine clearance, lipid panel. If you have history of liver disease, maybe sgpt and sgot. If your history shows that you had thyroid problems, you may be required a clearance from an accredited endocrinologist. Make sure you give an accurate health history. If you lie, you will be caught and you will lose hope of getting a 457 or permanent residency later on. No medical condition will automatically preclude the grant of a visa except TB. Medical issues will just delay the grant so dont worry about it. I think it is just wise to have the medicals earlier so you if there are issues, you still have time to correct them. Hiv, Hep b and Hep c lab results may take up to a week for some labs.

For the character check, it is wise to get a current police clearance from every country you have resided in after you turned 16 years of age. No you dont have to include the clearance/s in your application. Normally it is sufficient to just declare that you were never charged, convicted of any crime, felony, or offenses; that you were never deported etc.. But in some instances you may be required by the case officer and it is really up to the case officer, that is the time you send the clearances. And when required, you might be pressed for time to get those clearances. Like if your name has a hit with the nbi, it takes two weeks to get the clearance.

Hope this helps. But for reliable advice, i suggest you consult a registered migration consultant. Check the history of the consultant though. One friend availed the services of a consultant, his visa was denied twice. The third time he applied on his own, his visa was granted. Weird isn't it? Good Luck.

hi guys, newbie here. been reading this thread since this morning and i must say it's been very helpful and informative. thanks to all your posts.

anyone here who submitted to NBV just this month?

I think thats ok as long as the training or study is less than 3 months in duration. I had three Indians and two Korean batchmates on a 676. As for the 679, per DIAC website you are allowed to study for three months so that should not be a problem as well. You will not be required financial documentation if you go for 679, i think thats the visa subclass granted to the niece of nasruasim, because for other visa types you need to show diac that you have ready and unlimited access to the account you showed them. As for the restrictions, i know you are not allowed to work.

679 is single entry no further stay, 676 may be single or multiple entry, with or without no further stay condition.

I see, i think ill be leaning towards the 679 but still have to really see what's best for me. Thank you so much javRN, youve been very accomodating. God bless. :):up::up::up::up::up::up::up:

hi guys, newbie here. been reading this thread since this morning and i must say it's been very helpful and informative. thanks to all your posts.

anyone here who submitted to NBV just this month?

*raises arm* hehe

i submitted mine last week. :)

*raises arm* hehe

i submitted mine last week. :)

Hi there mikyong! Me too. I hope we can still be assessed by NBV.... I mean, with this July change looming ahead and all... :D

i have the same concern. but im keeping my hopes alive hehe. i wish there won't be great changes, and if there should be, i hope it won't affect our applications' progress. :eek::bugeyes:

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