New back-to-school worry: Unvaccinated classmates

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"A growing number of children aren't getting required vaccinations for non-medical reasons. What will this new reality bring this school year?

As parents send their children back to school, some are grappling with a new worry: whether their children's classmates have received all their vaccinations.

An outbreak of measles in Texas this week shows why their concern is not without reason. Twenty-one people linked to a megachurch and its congregation have contracted the highly contagious disease, and the case has put a spotlight on falling vaccination rates in the U.S.

Measles was eradicated in the U.S. as of 2000, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, but outbreaks like the one in Texas are increasing, as is the percentage of parents choosing not to immunize their children, which has seen an uptick in recent years. Usually, the CDC expects to see 60 cases of measles per year, but there have been 135 cases of measles so far in 2013, and in 2011, more than 220 people were diagnosed with the disease.

This latest outbreak follows a rash of recent measles cases among New York's Orthodox Jewish population and an outbreak in San Diego in 2008."

http://news.msn.com/science-technology/new-back-to-school-worry-unvaccinated-classmates

Breastfeeding has less than formula. You can choose to stay away from deodorants that have Al in it. You can not cook with tin foil. You can get only the most neccessary vaccinations. You can try to filter out as much Al in the water as you can. I'm sure if you research it, you can find ways to minimalize your exposure.

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The right to decide ends when a person's decision jeopardizes the public safety of others. Not being vaccinated has been shown time and again to be a huge public health concern.

I would like to see any scientific proof that . . . flu vaccines are useless,

Efficacy and effectiveness of influenza va... [Lancet Infect Dis. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

that is the lead of the article YOU gave the link for, lol.

"Hmm, I am not following your post very well. Can you provide a link or an article? I saw the probabilities as 1:100,000 up to 5:100,000 for delayed onset of newborn hemorrhage related to Vit K deficiency. The cause of Vit K deficiency could be endogenous or exogenous with endogenous being more rare according to the original article I referenced." quote from wbt

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Breastfeeding has less than formula. You can choose to stay away from deodorants that have Al in it. You can not cook with tin foil. You can get only the most neccessary vaccinations. You can try to filter out as much Al in the water as you can. I'm sure if you research it, you can find ways to minimalize your exposure.

You can minimize it, but I still do not think you could get below the amount of aluminum in one vaccine versus your daily intake of food and water. Everything is toxic in large enough quantities, but the amount of aluminum in vaccines is minuscule. There has never been one proven link to the preservatives in modern vaccines and adverse effects in the general public.

So people with with alzheimers and bone/brain cancer where Al is found isn't an adverse effect?

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The right to decide ends when a person's decision jeopardizes the public safety of others. Not being vaccinated has been shown time and again to be a huge public health concern.

I would like to see any scientific proof that . . . flu vaccines are useless,

Efficacy and effectiveness of influenza va... [Lancet Infect Dis. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

Did you even read the study you posted?

" Influenza vaccines can provide moderate protection against virologically confirmed influenza, but such protection is greatly reduced or absent in some seasons. Evidence for protection in adults aged 65 years or older is lacking. LAIVs consistently show highest efficacy in young children (aged 6 months to 7 years). New vaccines with improved clinical efficacy and effectiveness are needed to further reduce influenza-related morbidity and mortality." That is a direct quote from your study, and I have provided numerous articles to back up my statement on this thread which study would you like to debate.

Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in ... [Croat Med J. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI

Effectiveness and harms of seasonal an... [Hum Vaccin Immunother. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

Effectiveness of influenza vaccine in aging and older adults: comprehensive analysis of the evidence

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So people with with alzheimers and bone/brain cancer where Al is found isn't an adverse effect?

Myth 4: Drinking out of aluminum cans or cooking in aluminum pots and pans can lead to Alzheimer’s disease.

Reality: During the 1960s and 1970s, aluminum emerged as a possible suspect in Alzheimer’s. This suspicion led to concern about exposure to aluminum through everyday sources such as pots and pans, beverage cans, antacids and antiperspirants. Since then, studies have failed to confirm any role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Experts today focus on other areas of research, and few believe that everyday sources of aluminum pose any threat.

Memory Loss Myths & Facts | Alzheimer's Association

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/AP-Deo

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/antiperspirant-facts-safety

How likely is aluminum to cause cancer?

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) and the EPA have not evaluated the carcinogenic potential of aluminum in humans. Aluminum has not been shown to cause cancer in animals.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tf.asp?id=190&tid=34

I'm still talking with the person about Al.

"I am quite weary to trust anything the FDA says (these are the same people who cleared a Hep B vaccine for newborns) especially when aspartame which has been long proven to cause mental issues along with cancer as has Aluminum and that is by multiple studies done worldwide- the breast cancer thing however, is very strange because 95% of cancerous tissue is found on the outer edge of the breast, near the underarm and there is an enormous amount of research linking the parabands in deodorant to breast cancer and that is something your dr will actually tell you if you go in and ask what kind of deodorant you should be using- they will tell you not to use an antiperspirant and to find something Al free. Not sure how any cancer research center can dispute that because it is being commonly told to patients- even *** has been told in a military health briefing that he should stay away from deodorants with Al. I think this is kind of sick because these are things that are not even disputed among non-government studies and studies in other countries. Its also not consistent with what we know about the ingredients themselves. The more socialized our medicine becomes, the more they will sway us from the truth because keeping us sick, keeps us dependent which in turn keeps them in control."

"I am sitting reading through the different studies right now and the crap they are spewing sounds identical to the vaccine and Fluoride propaganda. No wonder our health is the joke of the industrialized world. If you have money, you can pay for your studies to show up towards the top of the google results (something that is offered for every person that has a website including myself) which is why when you google anything health related, government sites and studies come up for pages on end. Another thing to keep in mind. ^If you buy in to any of the government studies that are totally biased, you might as well buy into circumcision for many years according to them having foreskin posed a health hazard. They will literally say anything to make a buck."

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I'm still talking with the person about Al.

"I am quite weary to trust anything the FDA says (these are the same people who cleared a Hep B vaccine for newborns) especially when aspartame which has been long proven to cause mental issues along with cancer as has Aluminum and that is by multiple studies done worldwide- the breast cancer thing however, is very strange because 95% of cancerous tissue is found on the outer edge of the breast, near the underarm and there is an enormous amount of research linking the parabands in deodorant to breast cancer and that is something your dr will actually tell you if you go in and ask what kind of deodorant you should be using- they will tell you not to use an antiperspirant and to find something Al free. Not sure how any cancer research center can dispute that because it is being commonly told to patients- even *** has been told in a military health briefing that he should stay away from deodorants with Al. I think this is kind of sick because these are things that are not even disputed among non-government studies and studies in other countries. Its also not consistent with what we know about the ingredients themselves. The more socialized our medicine becomes, the more they will sway us from the truth because keeping us sick, keeps us dependent which in turn keeps them in control."

"I am sitting reading through the different studies right now and the crap they are spewing sounds identical to the vaccine and Fluoride propaganda. No wonder our health is the joke of the industrialized world. If you have money, you can pay for your studies to show up towards the top of the google results (something that is offered for every person that has a website including myself) which is why when you google anything health related, government sites and studies come up for pages on end. Another thing to keep in mind. ^If you buy in to any of the government studies that are totally biased, you might as well buy into circumcision for many years according to them having foreskin posed a health hazard. They will literally say anything to make a buck."

Ratlady that whole post is basically conspiracy nonsense. You disagree with scientific peer reviewed literature but yet you cannot find anything out of millions of published peer reviewed scientific article to back any of your claims. The whole world is not in on some giant conspiracy about vaccines.

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Okay, if vaccines are bad for you then why are the countries with the highest vaccination rates also the ones with highest average life spans?

http://www.childinfo.org/files/immunization_summary_2012_en.pdf

Life expectancy at birth, total (years) | Data | Table

Ratlady that whole post is basically conspiracy nonsense. You disagree with scientific peer reviewed literature but yet you cannot find anything out of millions of published peer reviewed scientific article to back any of your claims. The whole world is not in on some giant conspiracy about vaccines.

I never said I disagree with peer reviewed stuff, it's just hard to sift through it all to find the truth about vaccines.

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I never said I disagree with peer reviewed stuff, it's just hard to sift through it all to find the truth about vaccines.

Are you looking for the truth or are you looking for evidence to support your belief?

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