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I totally get it now. As a student, I thought it would be great having students around, but after last week, I don't think I even wan to take students EVER!
Granted, I've been on the floor around 9 months, and shouldn't even take students, the students are assigned to individual pts and not the nurse.
I had a LPN in a LPN-RN program. Within 5 mins, she shares that she has been a nurse for 20 years and doesn't see the point of being here. She helped me do a dressing change on a pt with an stage 4 ulcer on the coccyx. While lifting her, I tell her not to pull on the bottom, but from the shoulders and knees, she scoffs and continues. I ask her to step away. Pt was on tube feeding and I had paused it before starting the dressing change, but I had also spiked a bag of antibiotics and wanted to be sure it was running before I continued and asked her to turn the pole towards me so I can be sure. She presses buttons on the feeding pump and IV pump and the tells me the feeding is off. Im in the middle of the dressing change and say, I need to see it (the iv pump and now feeding pump) and asks again for her to turn the pole and she insists that it is off. I stop in the middle of my dressing change and go to look at the pump. Take her aside and tell her not to come back in my pts room.
This isn't the first time have worked with students like this. I once had a guy nurse that just knew EVERYTHING there was to know about nursing. It was painful talking to him.
I just can't believe how obnoxious some of these students are. I totally get why so many nurses can't stand taking students. We do have awesome students every now and then, but it seems most of them take up space and talk all day.
Rant over.
How would you have handled this situation differently? I would like to know what I did that was inappropriate.
It would be interesting to set up a poll of employed RNs regarding nursing students in 2015.
1. I never wanna have a student ever again.
2. I love having students
3. I dont have enough time for my workload as it is so a student is the last thing I need.
4. meh. It's comes with the job so whatever.
Instead of ranting on the internet , how about voicing your concerns to the appropriate party since this not the first time you have had problems with a student. I do not think it was appropriate for them to place you with a lpn student with 20 years of experience with a new grad nurse.
Still doesn't answer my question of what I did that was inappropriate. Also, I don't think you read any of my earlier posts to this thread. So your opinion is irrelevant.
It would be interesting to set up a poll of employed RNs regarding nursing students in 2015.1. I never wanna have a student ever again.
2. I love having students
3. I dont have enough time for my workload as it is so a student is the last thing I need.
4. meh. It's comes with the job so whatever.
#3. And in the comments section I'll add "I'd love to do it, but not at the risk of my patients and the student. Plus, mo money mo money, please."
I completely disagree with some of the comments on here, some are commenting about how rude/disrespectful student nurses are , well the same can be said for actual registered nurses. If the op has an issue with student then it should be handled appropriately especially if it jeopardizes the patient safety. Both the student and the op did not act appropriately in the situation , if you not able to handle students then it should be discussed with your supervisor. Your a new nurse so adding the responsibilities of a student nurse in clinical may be too much for you.
Gonna go out on a limb here and predict that you are not (yet,perhaps) a nurse.
Gonna go out on a limb here and predict that you are not (yet,perhaps) a nurse.
I'm taking it that you want me to hate /dislike student nurses? I work in the hospital, experience with both good and bad students, same with nurses. It goes both ways, I believe in open communication. Like I said, it may not have been appropriate to place a new RN with an experienced lpn, she probably felt she could intimidate her and do whatever she likes because of her experience. Age may have played a factor as well.
Gonna go out on a limb here and predict that you are not (yet,perhaps) a nurse.
Based on poster's other posts, she is currently a nursing student. As with other students, I predict an eye opening experience during the transition from student to licensed nurse and taking on the first student.
For those who are complaining about student nurses , what are you expecting from those student nurses?
Respect, the realization that they aren't "helping the nurse" and are actually adding to the workload, the fact that the nurse isn't getting any incentive to take on a student, the fact that the schools are failing to do their jobs by foisting the student on a staff nurse rather than having the clinical instructor doing the instructing...
It's not so much students as a whole but that there are some bad apples and since the school is passing the job of teaching from the instructors to the staff means that the system is broken.
Respect, the realization that they aren't "helping the nurse" and are actually adding to the workload, the fact that the nurse isn't getting any incentive to take on a student, the fact that the schools are failing to do their jobs by foisting the student on a staff nurse rather than having the clinical instructor doing the instructing...It's not so much students as a whole but that there are some bad apples and since the school is passing the job of teaching from the instructors to the staff means that the system is broken.
Well in my personal experience, I do not believe Im helping the nurse, I'm there to learn. So far my clinical instructors have been great ( a great portion of the clinical instructors have worked or currently work the same floor) and set rules for the students . If the nurses do not want a student, they speak up. If the instructor is failing to do her/his job then she needs to be reported. Professionalism is key here on both parties. I'm not sure which area you are in but schools in my location are fighting for clinical placements so most of the students are on their best behavior. Too many generalizations being said on here, I'm sure the same commentators will not pleased if they were stereotyped due to actions of one bad nurse.
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