So I had a phone interview for a job that sounds pretty good.
Only thing is only 2 weeks vaca ( i currently get 3 weeks as a RN) He said increases with yrs. CME 1700 and 5days.
Job is M-F 8-5, he said there is flexibility in that you could come in at 8:30-5 and just take 30min lunch...
I would REALLY like to only work 4 days, whether 4 (8,9,10 hour days) I really don't care. I just feel like I have been going to school for so long (since HS, with not much relief) also working a lot of that time, I just don't want to work to death.
This clinic doesn't currently have extended hours and is only open 8-5 M-F.
I know many NP's work 4 days/week.
Now this job also has NO call and NO weekends.
Is this something I can even negotiate on? I would definitely take less pay to be able to work 4 days.
I am also getting to the point that I just really want a job, and don't want to lose the chance if they definitely only want to hire someone who will work that specific schedule.
It will just be VERY hard to go from 3 day/week (32hour) schedule to 5 day/week. Its okay that you get holidays off, but really makes no difference to me since, you can't even go to bank or post office, or your own appt. on holidays.
I recognize this is probably something to talk about AFTER a job offer has been made, but how would you go about negotiating something like this?
I would definitely not work for salary. I want paid for every hour I work. I've made that mistake in the past as a management RN and always end up working for nothing.
I would definitely not work for salary. I want paid for every hour I work. I've made that mistake in the past as a management RN and always end up working for nothing.
Good luck with that. I'm not sure what the statistics are for NPs but more than 80% of PAs are salaried. All of the NPs where I work are salaried. The trick is to work it to your advantage. Make sure that the estimated hours of work are realistic and that you that non-clinical time is included. My last job we were scheduled 4-10s and it ended up about 40-45 hours per week. My current job I am scheduled 30 hours but have 96 hours of call per week. This usually works out but if things go bad then you end up working 60-80 hours. Of course the four day weekends every other week make up for it. If I was hourly I would probably make about the same but I couldn't take off when things are slow.
If they are paying salary it usually means its to their advantage or that they don't understand how to run a business. Neither one is a good thing. What you have to avoid is the jobs that schedule you for 40 hours then give you 60 hours of work to do.
Well another job that was a good potential I talked to today. Had an phone interview about 1 week ago or so. waiting for guy to get back to me.
i called 2 times, and sent email. Finally got a call back last night.
I sent the guy an email (b/c i was working) and finally reached him by phone today.
He basically asked when I was coming. I told him some dates that would be good. He was like that is fine any of those days. I asked then well do you have funds to help with interview expenses. He said, oh yeah, about that, i read that in your email. He said although we are affiliated (i would be working for) this large organization, we are a physician group and well i would have to talk to the physicans, yada yada, it would have to come out of their pocket ( i was thinking like okay, its "fine" that it just comes out of mine?)
So anyways, he is supposed to get back to me on mon or tuesday.
I'm not going to give in, just because i feel like that is how mid-levels lose respect, we don't expect or demand it. Also he said during the interview that they just couldn't find any NPs anywhere and really needed 2 of them. So if that is really the case, then they should be able to come up with the funds. (and that is what I will reiterate)
I'm waiting on that negotating book for hopefully some more tips because I don't feel like I am very good at this..
In the meantime I am waiting on more calls for more phone interviews and hope something will eventually pan out!
I'd like to get a job before the May graduation and competition gets stiffer. (its also a pain having days off and I could fly somewhere and visit relatives but i have to wait to see if i get an interview..)
Also i have a wedding of my best friend i HAVE to go to end of June, if I don't get a job soon I guess i will just have to start beginning of July, just hoping that won't look bad having graduated way back in Dec and not gotten a job for 6 months, not to mention not wanting to forget everything!
You go emtneel! I think you are doing fine. Some places it is hard to find a job. As to them paying for interview expenses - yep - they should. And...they say they are desperate for NPs, then ya gotta pay.
Ironic... my school just sent out a copy of contract negotiations for NPs. If you like, I'll be happy to fwd the pdf to you. It's only 7 pages, but cuts it down to the basics.
And my negotiation books arrived the other day! Can't wait to dig into those. :)
You go emtneel! I think you are doing fine. Some places it is hard to find a job. As to them paying for interview expenses - yep - they should. And...they say they are desperate for NPs, then ya gotta pay.
Well Colorado it is pretty scorifice for NP jobs, unless you have experience and/or speak Spanish.
I have family in Texas so am open to moving there and there seems to be plenty of jobs there.
I have a loan repayment so that limits where i can work, and then also finding someone to hire a new grad. Hasn't been the easiest.
Good luck with that. I'm not sure what the statistics are for NPs but more than 80% of PAs are salaried. All of the NPs where I work are salaried. The trick is to work it to your advantage. Make sure that the estimated hours of work are realistic and that you that non-clinical time is included. My last job we were scheduled 4-10s and it ended up about 40-45 hours per week. My current job I am scheduled 30 hours but have 96 hours of call per week. This usually works out but if things go bad then you end up working 60-80 hours. Of course the four day weekends every other week make up for it. If I was hourly I would probably make about the same but I couldn't take off when things are slow.
If they are paying salary it usually means its to their advantage or that they don't understand how to run a business. Neither one is a good thing. What you have to avoid is the jobs that schedule you for 40 hours then give you 60 hours of work to do.
David Carpenter, PA-C
That's exactly why I want to work hourly. I l ive in Missouri and in this area I would say 75% of NP's are paid an hourly wage.
Dixiecup
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I would definitely not work for salary. I want paid for every hour I work. I've made that mistake in the past as a management RN and always end up working for nothing.