Need help on mark twain quote!

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Hi everyone!

I am in my first year of college studying to become a nurse and I need to write an essay based on the quote by Mark Twain saying "Dont let your schooling get in the way of your education"

My teacher told me that the definition of schooling is your street smarts and learning from good or bad experiences and life lessons. And that the education part of it means book smarts, and being in class.

He said we can switch the quote up and do "dont let your education get in the way of your schooling" as well.

Im just really confused and he clarified it up for me but I got lost again. I would like to hear your take on the quote.

I believe in Dont let your schooling get in the way of your education but I dont have valid reasons to write descriptiveness on it. I believe it is this one because you should not let people put you down by saying you are stupid so that would be the schooling and that dont let it get in the way of your education and work your hardest to prove that person wrong. Im not sure though. Pleaseee help!!:eek:

I would take is as don't let your personal experiences get in the way of your education.

Example: There are quite a few LPN's in some of my classes who think they know it all, and they challenge the teacher, quite often. Rather than learning, they believe they are right and are out to prove it. They are letting their "schooling" get in the way of their education.

Specializes in PACU, OR.

Schooling is where you are taught, but education is everything that life teaches you. Wisdom may come from experience, or a chance remark heard or read; you cannot be instructed in it. Try to find the source of the quote, and the context in which it is used will explain its meaning.

Specializes in Critical Care.
Schooling is where you are taught, but education is everything that life teaches you. Wisdom may come from experience, or a chance remark heard or read; you cannot be instructed in it. Try to find the source of the quote, and the context in which it is used will explain its meaning.

This is my interpretation of the quote as well. After all schooling would be a more formal instruction while education is what you have learned, be it through a formal route or by experience.

For example, you may have been taught something "by the book" yet once you get out on your own, you find that there is a simpler way of doing things.

Kudos to what Christine Cameron-Do said. Re-read what she said until you understand it. This is what critical thinking is. Using both schooling (teachers and book learning), and education (what life teaches you) to decide for yourself what is right or wrong, correct or incorrect, or just what makes sense to you. By the way, are fellow students at the college level calling you stupid?

Specializes in M/S, Travel Nursing, Pulmonary.
This is my interpretation of the quote as well. After all schooling would be a more formal instruction while education is what you have learned, be it through a formal route or by experience.

For example, you may have been taught something "by the book" yet once you get out on your own, you find that there is a simpler way of doing things.

Yes. Something got flip flopped. Schooling is the schoolwork, education is the entire body of learning including personal experiences.

Its just a warning that book smarts doesn't equal smarts.

That theme will follow you through nursing school. You will hear much about "memorizing information" vs. "applying knowledge".

Specializes in PACU, OR.

Just checked on the internet-according to http://www.twainquotes.com the "schooling" quote is not confirmed as having originated with Twain; however, his opinions of formal schooling are very clear: "Education consists mainly in what we have unlearned". I must say though, the line you've been given sounds a lot like the type of thing Huck Finn might have said to Tom Sawyer-assuming Huck Knew the meaning of the word "education"!

we are all, lifelong students, in and out of the classroom.

there is didactic/scholastic learning, where our brains are focused/wired to retain what we are being taught.

the other/remaining education is constant, but our brains have to be conscious of our environment, if we are to learn anything at all.

whether we learn from others experiences, or learn through trial and error, we humans are in a perpetual state of teaching and learning.

and twain pleads that we don't forget that.

leslie

Specializes in Cardiology and ER Nursing.
I would take is as don't let your personal experiences get in the way of your education.

Example: There are quite a few LPN's in some of my classes who think they know it all, and they challenge the teacher, quite often. Rather than learning, they believe they are right and are out to prove it. They are letting their "schooling" get in the way of their education.

Haha, I have a shirt that says, "Those that think they know it all annoy those of us that do." Sounds like you could use a shirt like this as well.

Specializes in PeriOperative.

I have a slightly different perspective as a homeschooling-parent.

Schooling is the act of going to school and memorizing and believing what your teachers tell you to memorize and learn. When I was in school, my teachers did from time to time say things that were ridiculous. In 10th grade, we had a lesson on Thomas Aquinas in Lit class, and my teacher discussed in great detail how he was considered a heretic and excommunicated from the Catholic Church. In nursing school, we learned that lung cancer is the leading cause of death worldwide.

Education, on the other hand, is knowledge that is sought out. With education, it is important to challenge everything, in order to get to the bottom of things.

I interpret the quote like this: If you believe everything they teach you in school and do not try to learn or grow outside of school, you will lack a real education.

Specializes in M/S, Travel Nursing, Pulmonary.
I have a slightly different perspective as a homeschooling-parent.

Schooling is the act of going to school and memorizing and believing what your teachers tell you to memorize and learn. When I was in school, my teachers did from time to time say things that were ridiculous. In 10th grade, we had a lesson on Thomas Aquinas in Lit class, and my teacher discussed in great detail how he was considered a heretic and excommunicated from the Catholic Church. In nursing school, we learned that lung cancer is the leading cause of death worldwide.

Education, on the other hand, is knowledge that is sought out. With education, it is important to challenge everything, in order to get to the bottom of things.

I interpret the quote like this: If you believe everything they teach you in school and do not try to learn or grow outside of school, you will lack a real education.

Oh, you missed my NSR102 instructor. She surely would have been one of your examples. According to her:

We have two bronchials to match up with two nostrils. So..........occlude one nostril and you, in essence, collapse the lung on the same side.

All nursing theory was born from the OR room. All of it. Nurses on other units picked up on how efficient the OR was and developed the "Nursing Theory" so everyone could be that way.

The first thing you do when there is a code is..........guess what? Grab the crash cart? Nope. Get vitals......wrong again. Initiate the code? Eh, that can wait. First thing you do is...............complete the I/O forms so the info will be there for everyone who responds.

Specializes in PeriOperative.

Erik, if your nursing class was anything like mine 90% was asleep and completely missed those gems.

I used to think that those kinds of things were said to wake us up and keep us on our toes. So I asked one day when we were given information in class that contradicted science, and our teacher was just confused as heck that I asked.

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