I have posted many a times about my horrible first RN job that which I started 10 weeks ago. Things have REALLY gotten bad. I talked to my manager about the latest issues and she pretty much made up excuses for everything. Sorry, I worked to hard for this license. 1,2, 3 strikes I'm out.
I want to keep it short and simple. Mind you that I am leaving on bad terms b/c I am not giving any notice. Please don't call it unprofessional, I am not at fault at all.
Date
Human Resouce
hospital
city, state
To whom it may concern:
It is with regret that i must reign my position as a Registered nurse effective on this date of October 19, 2005.
Sincerely,
raindrop.
I found this "simple" resignation letter on monster. My BF says that the "regret" implies to him, and maybe will to human resource, that I liked my job and had a positive experience, overall.
Considering that I am not giving notice and have complained to HR and my manager 2 times, I know that they will know better....but what if I ever have to go to court, god forbid, and the judge reads it like how my BF did.
Let me assure you that over the 40 years that I have worked there are been a number of jobs, including nursing jobs that I conveniently do not list on my resume or when I am applying for a job for different reasons. No one can find out about them unless they hire a detective who does some real good investigative work and even then they're probably not going to find that information. The only ones who really know are the IRS if you had taxes deducted from your wages and/or declared the income on a tax return. There are only a very few federal agencies that have the ability to access those tax records and they have to have a real, real, real good reason to do so. My mother ran a nurses registry some years ago and part of helping her out was verifying work histories on applications. You can't really get much information out of a former employer anymore other than dates of employment and whether or not you quit voluntarily or unvoluntarily. Checking references or checking a person's background is immensely time consuming and expensive for a prospective employer, so the expensive background checks are generally done on high level positions where the company is going to expend a great deal of money to hire and train someone, or is putting them in a position of fiscal trust. I don't know about you, but the complicated part for me on applications is coming up with a believable story to account for the "gaps" in my employment! :chuckle I have two of the sickest parents in the world that I "have" to take care of periodically. :chuckle Also, a prospective employer is usually only interested in what your work history has been for the last 3 or 4 years. Anything older than that nets them nothing on a reference check except the aforementioned dates of hire and type of termination. After 3 or 4 years most companies don't even remember your name or the staff has changed and the current staff has no clue as to who you were. Any information in your personnel file is strictly confidential and the people in human resources know better than to give any of it out!
I don't mean to be on a soap box, however:
I don't buy this stuff.....Taking chances hiring people without checking isn't done much that I know of. Almost all states require a criminal backgroud check, a child abuse check, references (escpecially if they are JCAHO accreditied) Facilities must follow their own policies or they are open to punishment by state and federal oversight. WE do verify employment dates and eligiblilty to be rehired. You can't lie.
As an expierienced director, administrator, and overseeing human resources, nursing is a small community. I WOULD NOT WALK OUT. That is not professional no matter how badly you think you are being treated.
We (directors/administrators/HR) do report new hires in certain states, so a list of your employement can be verified. Then if it doesn't match your resume, you were caught lying on it. That is a big NO NO. People moving around from company to company may remember you too.
We all have had awful experiences. You need to be as professional as you believe your employer is not. Take the bullet stay the required time to resign, and make yourself more employable in the future. I will always prefer to hire someone that told me the truth, that there was a bad match, they realized it before they were over orientation, and gave the proper notice to be replaced.
Also a word to the wise, I would not under any circumstances go into detail to a potential employer about why you left a job ( ie your personal opionions) before your orientation was up. Criticism at an interview of your expierience won't help you.
Just state it was just not a good match (that seems to be the truth). This would be understandable, don't elaborate, just emplasise how you are looking for a job for the long haul, where you can grow and expand your abilities.
Those of us in similiar fields can recognize the "movers" and the "problems". They get a history of moving around - we talk to each other..even staff nurses who move around learn who is a "looser". You need to be careful,nursing is a small community. Criticising those in long term positions by a new nurse won't gain much for your reputation.
I find newer nurses get much more upset over things, sometimes the things that cannot always be controlled in the real world. These are things that as a seasoned nurse you adapt to. Not having the orientation or management that meets your goals is good cause to resign, if you think you really needed more, but not to punish the patients, the other staff, or yourself in the long run.
Learn from this expierience that nursing is not a job like selling make-up you can't just pick up your marbles and go home. You need to layout your future by what is happening in your present, and how you handled your past.
I understand your frustation. I am a new grad, graduated Dec2004 and passed NCLEX RN Feb 2005. I was working as a nurse extern in a VERY popular Specialty Hopital here in South Texas and immediatley accepted into the internship program. In order for me toget into that position, my NM wanted me to do backflips and run through hoops to prove myself that I "belonged" there. I really wanted to work OR so I was willing! Then I graduated.....it ALL went down hill from there. My NM was literally looking over my shoulder at everyturn and corner. One time I innocently asked how long she wanted me to scrub in before I could start circulating? She tuned around and screamed at me," Why??? Are you too good to scrub in? You made your self out to someone who really wanted to be here, I think I am now wrong about you! Get out of my face!!!!" So I ran out crying, thinking maybe something was said wrong and maybe I misunderstood!. Another day my scrub tech and I were in the breakroom taking an early break before our surgery. My NM walked by my and pinched my arm. " In my office, NOW!" We all looked at each other and I followed my NM to her office. She tuned around and tore right into me, " What the HELL gives you the right to take a break!!! You think you are too good for us now you are an RN! What....Are you trying to snag a Dr.???? Ahhhh....Are you Crying????? Get out of MY FACE!!!!!!!" At this poin I was stunned!!!!! And that point I made sure to stay away from her at all costs! Then I heard from the grapevine there was a female scrub tech who did not like me and "report" to the NM how I was nortrying and "really" didn't want to be there. Of course the NM never took me aside and ASKED me. There were other verbal attacks. I would literally have panic attacks drving closer to work and start getting sick. I finally couldn't take it anylonger, called and QUIT!!!! I had never felt soooo relieved in my life. And I still have not made it back to clean out my locker and I DON'T CARE!!!! LOL I have all my surgical caps and my Dansko's in there and I don;t care! :balloons: When I started applying for another job, I was honest up front about quiting without notice. I have it in my resume. I do not try to hide it. I am now working for the state of TEXAS as a night charge nurse and I am SOOOOOOOO Loving my job!!!!! I never would have found it if I had not quit my previous job. I keep hearing about the Texas do not hire list. So far I have not come across it. You have to do what works for you. Your health and wellbeing is more important!
Now that you've fully explained the situation, and told us that you have been a nurse for 5 years, I understand the reasons behind what you are doing.
You're very first post made it sound like you were a new grad, no experience, and that the burn/ICU was your very first nursing job.
I would have loved to have had your situation in med surg- a CNA, and LPN and an RN for 12 pts, wow.
When I was an RN in med surg, I had 12-13 pts all by myself. I did give notice when I quit that job, but it took everything I had to stay that last 2 weeks!
I'm glad you spoke to HR about your situation, and that they are willing to let you transfer.
Best of luck and wishing you a wonderful employment situation.
what will the group one list do to you if you quit with no notice and you have a bad name?:uhoh21:
Group One is a sort of black list of nurses in Texas.
Managers can report nurses to Group one for any reason, or no reason. Even if they just don't like a nurse.
When the administrators are willing to 'stick it out' by working in the hell holes of their own making, then nurses should be willing to also. But that will never happen.
In no other profession is this lack of professionalism, hazardous environment or blatant disrespect tolerated. This is a throwback to the 'well that's the way it's always been' and 'good-ol-boy' times.
I experienced a similar situation as a new nurse in a large hospital (8 years ago). I still turned in a 2 week notice. In order to maintain professionalism and feel good about yourself and your decision, you should work out a 2 week notice. Leaving your co-workers and the patients in the lurch will reflect poorly on you. Poor management and the lack of attention to your concerns is unfortunate but should not cause you, in turn, to reflect such behavior by walking out. I now work in a surgery center, and a nurse recently quit without giving our administrator a notice. She will not be able to get a recommendation from anyone in our center (she is a new graduate). She lost the respect and trust of her peers when she "deserted the ship" in such an inconsiderate manner. Word travels in the healthcare community. Please consider sticking it out for 2 weeks. Good luck.
I agree - you should not leave without giving 2 weeks notice and as others have said, you will have to explain why you only stayed there 10 weeks - Human Resource Dept talk, whether they should or not, they do.
What happened - I have not read about your situation?
You won't be able to get a job with any hospital affiliated with Group One in Texas. From what I understand, ALMOST every hospital is affiliated with Group One. Once you get put on their "Do Not Hire" list, you can just about forget getting a job in Texas. The hospital list with Group One is VERY extensive. From what I've heard, there isn't a hospital in the DFW area that's NOT affiliated with Group One.
Pretty scary.
raindrop, I know that you've been in a bad situation and I've read about it before. If you gave 2 weeks notice when this first started getting bad and you posted about it, by now you'd be able to leave on a "professional" note.
Please, I hope you reconsider just leaving. 2 weeks will make a big difference in how you will be perceived professionally.
Best of luck to you... I wish you the very best.
I know that everyone in DFW is scared of Group One and rightfully so, but I feel the need to spread the word that it's not entirely true that no one will hire you with a Group One black mark.
Granted, I know a nurse with years of ICU and dialysis experience that now can only work in a nursing home because an employer made vicious comments about him on Group One.
However, I know for a fact that St. Paul (I think is now all UT Southwestern) and Richardson Regional have hired old co-workers of mine who have been blacklisted by Group One.
The LTAC facility that we all worked for in Dallas is well known in DFW for black balling people and these hospitals know it and are willing to hire people despite Group One reports.
So, I feel for you there. If you live in Texas, you could get on the Group One list, then it will be hard to find another job.
What is the "Group One list"?
madore57
You won't be able to get a job with any hospital affiliated with Group One in Texas. From what I understand, ALMOST every hospital is affiliated with Group One. Once you get put on their "Do Not Hire" list, you can just about forget getting a job in Texas. The hospital list with Group One is VERY extensive. From what I've heard, there isn't a hospital in the DFW area that's NOT affiliated with Group One.
I still don't know what "group one" is but I did leave a job once (and only once) in Dallas without giving proper notice and it's true that it followed me. I had a hell of a time explaining that one when I got other jobs in Dallas. Once I left Dallas however, I had no problem at all.
I think you should follow your heart and if you feel dread, stress and anxiety at the thought of spending another 2 weeks there, just quit. Why be bullied into staying in a situation that you hate and makes you miserable. I agree that as nurses we are manipulated through guilt, shame, and bullying to work in unsafe and unpleasant conditions. Hospitals can always find another nurse whether by agency, travelers, or staff working extra. Besides since you're on orientation still and not supposed to be alone they shouldn't even miss you.
Do what you feel you have to do and don't let anyone stop you. If I felt that way I would just quit and not even mention it on my resume.
Specializes in Gerontological, cardiac, med-surg, peds.
What is the "Group One list"?
madore57
I still don't know what "group one" is but I did leave a job once (and only once) in Dallas without giving proper notice and it's true that it followed me. I had a hell of a time explaining that one when I got other jobs in Dallas. Once I left Dallas however, I had no problem at all.
Group One allows HR departments to check one source to get background information on applicants. I should point out applicants includes nurses, techs, cafeteria workers, plant operation people, etc, etc. The background information includes:Report from the OIG (Office of Insp Gen) for any history of Medicare fraudCriminal check for felony arrests/convictionsRegistered sex offender checkDrivers license/record check (only if hired to drive for the company)Employment history (places, dates, reasons for leaving)(the above are used by my facility)Group One reports are updated by our HR department, not the nurse managers, so there is no place for our managers to include personal comments or details of problems.Although there are some true horror stories about how some facilities utilize Group One, I'm sure you can see some of the benefits of using such a service when it comes to hiring people to work in & around the hospital setting.(Please don't flame me for trying to be objective)
***I apologize that my paragraphs/indenting didn't show up in the above post, making it difficult to read. Let's try again.***Group One allows HR departments to check one source to get background information on applicants. I should point out applicants includes nurses, techs, cafeteria workers, plant operation people, etc, etc. The background information includes:Report from the OIG (Office of Insp Gen) for any history of Medicare fraudCriminal check for felony arrests/convictionsRegistered sex offender checkDrivers license/record check (only if hired to drive for the company)Employment history (places, dates, reasons for leaving)(the above are used by my facility)Group One reports are updated by our HR department, not the nurse managers, so there is no place for our managers to include personal comments or details of problems.Although there are some true horror stories about how some facilities utilize Group One, I'm sure you can see some of the benefits of using such a service when it comes to hiring people to work in & around the hospital setting.(Please don't flame me for trying to be objective)
...darn internet connection/edit feature...Sorry for the non-indents!
So it has been a week now since I quit and the guilt started taking it's toll last weekend, but prayers got me through. I interviwed yesterday at a well-known hospital 3 hours away from here and I thought I found my home by the end of the interview. The manager told me that I am hired pending my references, etc, etc. I walked out feeling goood, then on my way home I started thinking about what Q's the manager asked me and how I answered them...
One of the first Q's she asked me was whwn I got my license, so i told her I got it in September. She then asked me what I have been doing since then. I am the WORST liar and I know she saw right thru me when I told her that I have been job searching. Uggggh. I got past that "lie" and the rest of the interview went well.
Well, on my way home my "good angel" and "Bad angel" were fighting. Lol. My good angel told me that I need to call that manager and tell her the truth. The bad angel was telling me not to. I decided to go with what my good angel was saying b/c I am sooo scared I am going to move, sign a lease, and a few months down the line she will find out. I called her today to "confess", but she wasn't in. I plan on calling her tomorrow. Wish me luck. It can go either way. It's the right thing to do, don't you guys agree? I mean, the truth will set you free.
Now in regards to the toxic job that I quit without notice after 10 weeks of pure hell: I got a call from that HR department today. They investigated futher into what i told them, and they want me to come back and work for them again, but in a different department! I told them that I am pretty traumatized and am reluctant to work for them, but they told me that I can get an interview in any department that I wish, and if THAT manager likes me, I have a job, and can put my bad experience with the other floor behind me. If I decide that I haven't found any fit on any floor and I still want to move on, I can use them as a reference - the only info that they can give is when I was hired and when I left. Since I am still technically on orientation, but "on leave" for now - they never took me out of the system.
Sooooo, I am going to interview on a different floor tomorrow at the toxic hospital, but before my interview, I am going to call the manager at the OTHER hospital and lay it all on the table. If she still wants me, then that's where I"m going. If not, I will take it from there.
Rnreddie
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I don't mean to be on a soap box, however:
I don't buy this stuff.....Taking chances hiring people without checking isn't done much that I know of. Almost all states require a criminal backgroud check, a child abuse check, references (escpecially if they are JCAHO accreditied) Facilities must follow their own policies or they are open to punishment by state and federal oversight. WE do verify employment dates and eligiblilty to be rehired. You can't lie.
As an expierienced director, administrator, and overseeing human resources, nursing is a small community. I WOULD NOT WALK OUT. That is not professional no matter how badly you think you are being treated.
We (directors/administrators/HR) do report new hires in certain states, so a list of your employement can be verified. Then if it doesn't match your resume, you were caught lying on it. That is a big NO NO. People moving around from company to company may remember you too.
We all have had awful experiences. You need to be as professional as you believe your employer is not. Take the bullet stay the required time to resign, and make yourself more employable in the future. I will always prefer to hire someone that told me the truth, that there was a bad match, they realized it before they were over orientation, and gave the proper notice to be replaced.
Also a word to the wise, I would not under any circumstances go into detail to a potential employer about why you left a job ( ie your personal opionions) before your orientation was up. Criticism at an interview of your expierience won't help you.
Just state it was just not a good match (that seems to be the truth). This would be understandable, don't elaborate, just emplasise how you are looking for a job for the long haul, where you can grow and expand your abilities.
Those of us in similiar fields can recognize the "movers" and the "problems". They get a history of moving around - we talk to each other..even staff nurses who move around learn who is a "looser". You need to be careful,nursing is a small community. Criticising those in long term positions by a new nurse won't gain much for your reputation.
I find newer nurses get much more upset over things, sometimes the things that cannot always be controlled in the real world. These are things that as a seasoned nurse you adapt to. Not having the orientation or management that meets your goals is good cause to resign, if you think you really needed more, but not to punish the patients, the other staff, or yourself in the long run.
Learn from this expierience that nursing is not a job like selling make-up you can't just pick up your marbles and go home. You need to layout your future by what is happening in your present, and how you handled your past.