Multiple doses in same syringe?

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Hi all, I just started working in an outpatient PACU and I already made a mistake =( 7 years as a nurse and the only med error I've ever made was giving 200mg IV thiamine instead of 100mg. I'm used to drawing up only the amount of a med I'm giving and wasting the rest. So if giving 25mcg fentanyl from a 100mcg/2ml syringe, per hospital policy I would just draw up the 0.5ml and waste the rest. Then if I need another 25mcg, do it again. I know it wastes medication but that is how we did it, never walked around with fentanyl in our pockets. 

Here there are orders for fentanyl 25mcg q 5 mins up to 150mcg. Their policy is pull the whole 2ml, give 0.5ml at a time and waste what is left. I feel nervous pushing in only a portion of what's in a syringe, and about holding on to a syringe with narcotic in it. They do have a box you're supposed to lock the syringe in for the 5 mins between doses but no one uses it. I was doing OK when they had 3ml syringes because it was easy to see the markings for 0.5ml, but now they ran out and today I had to use a 5ml syringe with no clear markings other than each 1ml. I wanted to just draw up 0.5 at a time but they said we can't re-access the vial even if clean w/ alcohol pad. I drew up the whole 2ml and when trying to push in 0.5ml accidentally gave almost 1.5! so pt got 75mcg instead of 25mcg. Pt was fine and ended up getting another 25mcg anyway, but I still let the manager know. He was very nice about it, and said it's OK to draw up 0.5 at a time and re-access the vial. He said just don't do it again but don't freak out or beat yourself up. I am so embarrassed to mess up on week 3, but glad pt is OK. What do you think of this protocol and how bad should I be feeling? I usually blow things out of proportion so need perspective!

Specializes in Community Health, Med/Surg, ICU Stepdown.
7 hours ago, speedynurse said:

LibraNurse - when I was in the ER, we ALWAYS wasted the remaining amount of any controlled substance. We were never allowed to use a vial for multi doses. However, when I went to PACU, it was common practice to use a vial for multi doses. This is something that shocked me after coming from the ER that if a second dose was given from the same vial, that was never allowed to happen again! I don’t know if this is maybe just a PACU thing with using multi dose vials but it definitely confused me with the change of rules coming from the ER to the surgical team!

Glad to hear I'm not alone! 

Specializes in Cardiac.
On 1/23/2021 at 2:18 PM, klone said:

But I disagree with the policy about not re-accessing the vial if it's for the same patient in the same day. What is their rationale for that, I wonder?

Vials are considered single use. Most don’t have preservatives so accessing a vial multiple times can result in bacterial contamination. That is what I learned several years ago, and it made me change my practice of reusing vials….though I hate the waste! Why can’t drug companies make 25mcg/0.5 carpuject or syringes? Grrrr!

Specializes in Dialysis.
11 hours ago, 9kidsmomRN said:

Why can’t drug companies make 25mcg/0.5 carpuject or syringes? Grrrr!

$$$$

Specializes in oncology.
1 hour ago, Hoosier_RN said:

$$$$

I so agree. My hospital started a pain management program that required only 1 mg Dilaudid given at first for c/o's of pain. Of course, the Pyxis was stock with 2 mg vials requiring a waste every time. A waste that required a witness. Finding a witness took time and further delayed the med administration. Which wasted the RN's time looking to the witness.

 

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