***Disclaimer*** This is a complete and total VENT most likely spurned on by fertility hormones and or possible new pregnancy :)
I won't specifically pick on the call bell sitter I have at this moment, but man men age 30-40 seem to be the weeniest of patients! ("weenie" in my family means silly and sort of weak) I understand you had a lap appy and feel a little sore, but do I really have to pour your grape juice for you (under direction to do so) while you enjoy your Q2 Morphine and tap away on your laptop??
Grumble.
Ok I feel better.
P.S. By the way, to those of you warming up your keyboards to remind me that pain is subjective and individual, yeah I get it, I know it, I have it tattooed on my butt!
sure, some women are babies but overall, i think we're a lot tougher and less needy.
living with monthly periods (often, incredibly debilitating) x 40 yrs, then the 'joys' (:uhoh21:) of labor & delivery for each child born...
well, me thinks we own the experience of what pain is.
now, we are talking about minor illnesses and/or some of life's anticipated nuances.
in no way whatsoever, does this thread relate to those with serious illness.
when it comes to such, there aren't any gender variations, and we truly remain equal.
leslie
That's o.k. I know I'm in the minority here and I'm only I'm talking about my experience in trauma med-surg....granted my facility doesn't get the cream of the cop when it comes to people with good coping skills. When it comes to colds and flus women don't get sick and carry on, and men are bed ridden babies. And I've said it before, if men are babies when they are sick it's probably because they were raised that way by a woman. I see how some mom's treat their grown men children when they are in the hospital....sometimes I just want to slap momma..."there is nothing wrong with his hands...why are you feeding him???"......and mom's definitely treat sick boys differently than sick girls.......just sayin'..........I'll bow out now and let the women vent and feel superior because you give birth and have periods....can't argue with you there.
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My little thread has matured so well!
I will say this for men, and only a few of them. My husband does not fit into my own stereotype, so maybe after seeing the things he has gone through over the last two years, I think others are pathetically wimpy compared to him.
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That's o.k. I know I'm in the minority here and I'm only I'm talking about my experience in trauma med-surg....granted my facility doesn't get the cream of the cop when it comes to people with good coping skills. When it comes to colds and flus women don't get sick and carry on, and men are bed ridden babies. And I've said it before, if men are babies when they are sick it's probably because they were raised that way by a woman. I see how some mom's treat their grown men children when they are in the hospital....sometimes I just want to slap momma..."there is nothing wrong with his hands...why are you feeding him???"......and mom's definitely treat sick boys differently than sick girls.......just sayin'..........I'll bow out now and let the women vent and feel superior because you give birth and have periods....can't argue with you there.
Not all of us, I am a harda&& when it comes to sickness and my kids, if it isn't broke or gushing blood then shake it off and move about your day. I have had generally healthy kids, I have 3 boys and then a girl. Now when she just had that H1N1 I was a lot more caring and compassionate, she is also 2 and got a bad secondary infection from it. But we didn't even go to the Doc until things had gone on for a week and she was getting worse and not better.
Actually a lot of times I feel guilty like I should be more "motherly" when it comes to them being sick. I have just never been a "babier" type of person and I have dealt with a lot of pain and can tolerate it pretty well so I think I tend to not be as sympathetic towards it.
I too get annoyed when I see people freaking out regarding their kids all the time or making a big deal because little johnny fell and scraped his knee. I knew someone that CHANGED their family vacation because her 10 year old son scrapped up his knee and 2 days later they were planning on going to the water park. She was too worried that it would sting so she rearranged when they went for later :stone seriously, it's a scraped knee, wash it off and go play.
I think I'd be the same way if I had kids..."if there's no blood and guts, don't bother me"....my parents didn't raise any momma's boys either...mom was German and dad was an Army officer of the "if you want to cry, I'll give you something to cry about" kind of folks. I'm very stoic and want to be left alone and not babied when I'm sick or in pain.
That's o.k. I know I'm in the minority here and I'm only I'm talking about my experience in trauma med-surg....granted my facility doesn't get the cream of the cop when it comes to people with good coping skills. When it comes to colds and flus women don't get sick and carry on, and men are bed ridden babies. And I've said it before, if men are babies when they are sick it's probably because they were raised that way by a woman. I see how some mom's treat their grown men children when they are in the hospital....sometimes I just want to slap momma..."there is nothing wrong with his hands...why are you feeding him???"......and mom's definitely treat sick boys differently than sick girls.......just sayin'..........I'll bow out now and let the women vent and feel superior because you give birth and have periods....can't argue with you there.
I hope the superiority comment is just joking around, because I wasn't trying to imply that and certainly don't feel that way (I just can't quite pick up the tone, and it could read a lot differently depending on the inflection placed on it! ). I just always thought was a goober my ex was when he'd make the "just cramps" comment considering how (literally) debilitating they were/are, but then when he'd have a cold he'd be bedridden. I remember him taking me to the ER for the second time over a weekend with a kidney abscess and systemic sepsis, fever of 103, severe pain, etc, and he was acting all eye-rolly and had the "you're fine" attitude until the doc came back in and told us/him how sick I really was...had that been him, man, I can only imagine. I think that's kind of funny.
Anyway, moving on. All in good fun, right?
I DO completely agree with the moms/parents babying their kids when they have minor injuries and illnesses, and how that fosters that attitude into adulthood (and like you said, some continue to baby their "kids" as adults!). I think we, as nurses, DON'T baby our kids when they're sick (from the things I've seen IRL and read here; I don't have kids myself). I think moms that aren't in healthcare are much more likely to do things like the vacation-rescheduling mentioned by another poster (you'd be hard-pressed to find a nurse that would do that.......I hope! ).
Working around women I get used to when I say things like "gee I have a headache today" they say "at least you don't get cramps"....or me: "I'm so tired"....them: "at least you're not a mother".....me: "my foot hurts where I banged it in the middle of the night"...."them: "at least you haven't given birth..you don't know what pain is"...Constantly reminded of the superiority of female suffering over males. .
***Disclaimer*** This is a complete and total VENT most likely spurned on by fertility hormones and or possible new pregnancy :)
I won't specifically pick on the call bell sitter I have at this moment, but man men age 30-40 seem to be the weeniest of patients! ("weenie" in my family means silly and sort of weak) I understand you had a lap appy and feel a little sore, but do I really have to pour your grape juice for you (under direction to do so) while you enjoy your Q2 Morphine and tap away on your laptop??
Grumble.
Ok I feel better.
P.S. By the way, to those of you warming up your keyboards to remind me that pain is subjective and individual, yeah I get it, I know it, I have it tattooed on my butt!
I find this unfair and offensive. The stereotype that pregnant/hormonal women can't control their emotions is something we just don't need, especially on a nurses' forum. Also, pretty much all patients are weenies. It isn't just guys.
In all seriousness, though, I do object to the OP's generalization, and I don't think disclaiming that "this is a vent" ought to be an excuse to besmirch an entire demographic. Hey, I've had run-ins with middle-aged women, but a lot of middle-aged women are among my favorite people. I'm glad the OP feels better after posting this. I feel worse after reading it. Maybe I'm being too touchy, but that's okay, because I'm just venting.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
I think I'd be the same way if I had kids..."if there's no blood and guts, don't bother me"....my parents didn't raise any momma's boys either...mom was German and dad was an Army officer of the "if you want to cry, I'll give you something to cry about" kind of folks. I'm very stoic and want to be left alone and not babied when I'm sick or in pain.
HAHA I swore I wouldn't say the "I'll give you something to cry about" or the "I brought you into this world and I can take you out" when it came to my kids, and I would be more caring when they were sick because my parents weren't and I turned out the same way. I say the same things, and sickness is objective in my house not subjective. If your sick you can't go to school you are in your bed all day no TV and playing unless I can SEE that you are seriously sick. I had a navy dad to and I was raised to be very stoic as well.
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). I just always thought was a goober my ex was when he'd make the "just cramps" comment considering how (literally) debilitating they were/are, but then when he'd have a cold he'd be bedridden. 
I remember him taking me to the ER for the second time over a weekend with a kidney abscess and systemic sepsis, fever of 103, severe pain, etc, and he was acting all eye-rolly and had the "you're fine" attitude until the doc came back in and told us/him how sick I really was...had that been him, man, I can only imagine. I think that's kind of funny. 
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That's o.k. I know I'm in the minority here and I'm only I'm talking about my experience in trauma med-surg....granted my facility doesn't get the cream of the cop when it comes to people with good coping skills. When it comes to colds and flus women don't get sick and carry on, and men are bed ridden babies. And I've said it before, if men are babies when they are sick it's probably because they were raised that way by a woman. I see how some mom's treat their grown men children when they are in the hospital....sometimes I just want to slap momma..."there is nothing wrong with his hands...why are you feeding him???"......and mom's definitely treat sick boys differently than sick girls.......just sayin'..........I'll bow out now and let the women vent and feel superior because you give birth and have periods....can't argue with you there.