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  • Nov 13 '09

    I knew a guy that works 6 12-hour nights shifts a week doing two different contracts through an agency for two different hospitals and he made over 100,000 grand here in Florida. He was an ADN grad who worked ICU.

    With overtime it is possible to make good money in nursing. Personally, I'm not killing myself. 3 12-hour shifts pays my biills, 10% into retirement funds and two vacations a year.

  • Nov 12 '09

    DaynaDawn,

    Guess what? You are going to learn what to do in nursing school!

    You may not grow out of being a quiet person...but you'll grow into being a nurse! Just like you grew into being a mother!

    If it's your dream, then go for it!

  • Nov 11 '09

    Quote from Onekidneynurse
    People who qualify for Medicaid now don't sign up. Why would they start now?
    I love the way some people on this site keep bringing this up like it explains everything. While I'm sure there are some people out there who qualify for Medicaid but haven't enrolled, it is not an answer for most of the uninsured. States have increasingly restrictive qualifications for Medicaid (they've been cutting back on Medicaid funding for years as their budgets have gotten tighter) -- most people think of Medicaid as "healthcare coverage for poor people," but, in my state (the only state about which I can speak first hand, but I understand that many states have similar situations), there is no way you can qualify for Medicaid unless you are 1) a minor, 2) pregnant (you qualify for the duration of the pregnancy only), or 3) have one of a small number (5 or 6) of specific chronic illnesses. If you don't fit into one of those groups, it doesn't matter how poor you are -- you are simply not eligible. Expanding the Medicaid program would make a big difference for a lot of poor people, including the working poor, in my state.

  • Nov 11 '09

    Quote from SilentMind
    I think a large portion of the contributors to this site are stuck on the train of thought that lack of health care kills people. It doesn't. Cancer kills people. Car accidents kill people. Heart disease kills people. Noone has -ever- died from lack of health care, I promise. Rather, health care is an intervention that saves people. Those that believe in health care reform believe that we have an obligation to save everyone, which is unrealistic. Sadly, over the course of natural events...people can and do die. When it's feasible, we absolutely should step in and lend what aid we can. But the distinction needs to be made. Disease/death/dying is the natural state. But how much should those of us that haven't seen a doctor in 5 years be forced to contribute to paying for this cost?
    There are correlative studies suggesting that our health insurance system is killing as many as 45,000 people a year. What are "feasible" interventions? Currently, health insurance companies make that decision. We can't save everyone but modern medicine is built on the premise that we can manipulate nature and those who can pay receive more, and better manipulation than those who can't.

    The question as to whether health care is a right, isn't the issue. Thats like saying "Is it a right to not get cancer, contract infectious diseases, or trip and fall?" The real question, is "Is it legally our obligation to sacrifice to help those who are stricken with such misfortune?" As it is, the uninsured are already guaranteed basic treatment at emergency rooms. But how far beyond that are we obligated to go to assist these people? Months and months of life support? Extensive radiation therapy for cancer patients that may or may not solve the problem? How many thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars can honestly be asked of us?
    Your definition of health care is incorrect. It's not the absence of illness, it's the treatment (and possible prevention) of illness. The questions you ask are subjective. As we progress, I think Americans are beginning to understand and accept that health care is a right. The question now becomes, how do we as a people provide this right four ourselves and our fellow citizens?

    But, you bring up an excellent point, we need to decide what it is that we will cover, and how much, and what we won't cover.

    You can argue that life comes first, and that theres absolutely no dollar price too high for an individual life. But that's not the case. We could shut down the military, we could shut down public works, and libraries and parks and everything else, and direct all that funding to medical research. And we would have had a cure for cancer and aids years ago. But the bottom line is, we are operating under limited resources. Theres only so much to go around.
    If there's a will to make it happen then there's a way. Every developed nation on the planet finds a way, except ours.

    Personally, I think the last estimate I heard, was that the mandated health care coverage cost about 4k a year, and I'm neither able nor willing to contribute that much to the cause. And I think each individual has the right to decide how far they're willing to go to do their part. You can't financially force people to contribute to whatever cause you deem appropriate, any more then you can force someone to jump into a street fight to defend someone who's being ganged up on. One thing about America is that you have the right to spend your resources as you see fit, even if you so choose to take the selfish route and neglect your fellow man. Thats your choice to make.
    Taxes are taken out of your paycheck each pay period to pay for Medicare for seniors. While there are some who are undoubtedly upset and being "forced" to pay for it, I think the vast majority of people realize that Medicare is a good program (not perfect) that helps every American 65 or older.

    We pay taxes, and we benefit from them, there is no country in the world worth living in that doesn't have a tax system for the public good.

    Ultimately, I still see this health care reform as a social security clone. The healthy pay into the insurance companies to pay for the treatment of the sick. And then as we age and become sickly, the next generation will then be paying for health care that they don't need so we can have our treatment. I'm currently 25 years old, and I'd trade all rights I have to social security benefits for my entire life for a couple shares of google stock. And I'd be making the right fiscal choice.
    No one is stopping you from investing in google.

  • Nov 11 '09

    Quote from GCTMT
    The bill will expand Medicaid eligibility, sounds like your friend will qualify.
    This is the part that really gets to me. When you sit down and think about it, it's so pathetic...that it actually borders on brilliance.

    I'm in the same boat, more or less. I mean I eat well enough, but I haven't broken 15k this year, and it's certainly not enough to cover my bills. Am I low income? Absolutely. Do I qualify for financial aid for tuition, partial unemployment and probably a host of other government assistance programs? Sure. And yet, i've never felt the need to become dependant on the government to give me everything I'm "entitled" to. I'd just as soon get by on my own on less.

    Now here's the beauty of it. The government is fully aware that there are people like me out there, and so they go and pull something like this. They REQUIRE youths to purchase insurance even though we may not be able to afford it, FORCING us to turn to the government for handouts in something that a month ago...we were just fine without.

  • Nov 9 '09

    Going back to flexibility: I have the impression that if I had chosen nursing only for the flexibility and pay, I'd have trouble sticking it out for very long. Does anyone have thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]


    I did not necessarily have the "calling" to be a nurse like others may have. But I must say that I give the patient my all for the 12 hours that I am on, and I take my job as a nurse seriously. After my shift I leave everything behind. I must also say that I enjoy being a nurse.

    It seems some people believe nurses should not be compensated for services rendered, or should only work for the gratification of others. Why is that? Nurses have mortgages, children to care for, and bills to pay like everyone else. Would I do it for free? No, and I doubt others would also. Nursing affords me a good salary and the means to support my family. If it didn't I would choose another profession, that I enjoyed, which would preserve and maintain the lifestyle that I am accustomed to living. This does not make me a bad nurse in my opinion.

  • Nov 9 '09

    Gerry- Thank you for your honesty. I hate it when people won't admit that they decided to go into a certain field because of the pay or job flexibility. I was talking to one girl in my class about what hospitals in the area were good to work for and I mentioned one hospital and said something like "I heard they pay really well" and her response to that was "to be honest, I dont care how much I make, I just want to be a good nurse." If she's telling the truth, I do admire her. But I dont know if I believe her 100%. I realize my main goal is to be the best nurse possible, so I'm not discounting that but I'm not going to lie- salary is a major issue for me.

  • Nov 9 '09

    It was a happy productive morning on the postpartum floor. I was busy with my group of clinical students overseeing “BUBBLEHE” assessments, reinforcing breastfeeding techniques with the new moms, performing non-stress tests on the antepartal patients, drawing labs, hanging IV maintenance fluids, and administering medications. This was a pleasant unit with all the new mothers and babies.

    My euphoria was rudely interrupted when a staff nurse approached me with concerns about one of my students. “Do you know your student is just sitting over there, doing nothing?” She glanced in an accusatory manner towards my lone male student “Catfish,” who was quietly occupying a seat in an inconspicuous area at the farthest edge of the unit.

    “Catfish” was entirely bald, short and stocky, in his forties, with an engaging smile and twinkling blue eyes. He was a man of few words, but very gentle and polite. True to his nickname, he was a commercial fisherman, who was picking up nursing as a second career.

    “Catfish” appeared utterly miserable and forlorn as he sat nearly hunched over. His eyes were devoid of the usual sparkle, staring vacantly at the floor. He looked as if he hoped the earth would open up and swallow him whole.

    “What’s wrong, Catfish?” I asked. “Why are you just sitting here?” With that inquiry, the saddest expression swept across his face and he seemed about to cry. I'd seen that look before. It was classic for a male student on the OB floor and I almost had to bite my lip to keep from smiling.

    “I’m so sorry, Ma’am,” was his doleful reply, “But neither my assigned patient nor anybody else will let me in their room!” I found two or three tasks to occupy his time during the remainder of the shift on the unit. But, overall, he was correct – very few moms would allow him in their rooms, even with a female escort. And, there was nothing that I, as a clinical instructor, could do about it.

    Catfish suffered through the rest of the two-week rotation on the unit, trying to stay out of the way of as many new moms as possible. Not too soon enough for him, his stint in OB purgatory mercifully came to an end. He then very gratefully returned to the blissful clinical surroundings of the medical-surgical floor.

  • Nov 9 '09

    Ive been a nurse for 5 years, and never seena doctor "open someone up". its nothing like on tv. My advice is after you get your ged, go and get a cna liscense and apply at a local hospital. After you see first hand on a medsurg floor what its like then decide what you want to do.

    Good luck.

    And why did you drop out? Nursing school is tough as nails.

  • Nov 9 '09

    Quote from Mikeperkins_rn
    Ive been a nurse for 5 years, and never seena doctor "open someone up".
    I might have to disagree...I worked on a open heart unit and when someone has just had their chest cracked open for an open heart..there is no doing CPR...it's called get the sternotomy cart and get ready to get messy....hahah

  • Nov 9 '09

    Hello, Reminisce! Your plan to go to community college, then BSN is a good plan. Nursing school is tough, but it wasn't as lame as high school. Since you are young and might have a flexible schedule, consider volunteering in a non-acute setting, like a health clinic. Meanwhile, keep going to school.

    If that volunteer opportunity works out, then maybe volunteer at a hospital a few hours a week. By this time, in a year or so, you will have seen enough to help you decide if you want to pursue the A D N. Be sure to apply on time. Procrastination will slow you down.

    Is this helpful?

  • Nov 9 '09

    Most nursing programs require you do do a year or so of college first (specific classes they call prerequisites) before you apply to the nursing program. So, you won't have to go to a community college for two years to "raise your GPA." You can do your prerequisites and then apply directly to either an ADN nursing program at a community college or a BSN nursing program at a university.

    What you need to do is to find the schools in your are, then look at their school of nursing web page....it will list what prerequisite classes they require to apply.

  • Nov 9 '09

    I think that volunteering in a hospital and getting going on community college units is a great plan! If you like what you see at the hospital, it will be better for you to know that the work you have to put in to become a nurse is worth the effort. The prerequisites for nursing school are hard, getting in to nursing school is hard, nursing school is hard, and being a nurse is hard too. Its one of those things you really have to want to actually succeed at it. You will have to do things here and there that you really don't like. For instance I really don't like wound care. But I do it. I also don't like being in the OR, and I hated dissection in anatomy. But I did that too. If you really want to be a nurse you just push through those things you don't like so you can get to the heart of what you really love. Best of luck to you!

  • Nov 9 '09

    I think stating that you have a ninth grade education, and you are planning to get your GED, you need to get the GED first, THEN talk to a college counselor. I know some schools have various requirements (due to state laws) regarding education. Also, get your CNA and work with that 1st. So many people have seen TV and films and think nursing is so totally something that it really isn't. And yes, the money's not bad, but for new grads, there are hardly any jobs, so for them the money isn't an issue-hopefully won't be like this for long, but no guarantees. Also, if you decide on nursing, look at the location where you want to work and see if they prefer BSN over ASN, that might help you to decide the type of degree to pursue. Good luck!

  • Nov 9 '09

    I second the advice that you get your GED and then consider taking a CNA course. Working as a CNA will give you an inside look at how hospital operate and what nurses do. Then if you decide to go on to school I would highly recommend starting at a community college. I think they are a good choice, especially for someone who might have some struggles with school in the past. The classes are smaller, but they are the same courses that you would be paying big bucks for in a university setting. Some community colleges have an Associates Degree program where you can get your RN, pass the licensing exam and start working within 2 years. And some have pre-BSN nursing programs where you do your general education work and then transfer after 2 years to a college or university to finish out your BSN, after which you will take the exact same licensing test as the ASN, and start working after 4 years.

    I started out as a CNA and I highly recommend it. It gave me good skills with which to support myself, plus some income to pay for nursing school. I entered a 2yr ASN program, graduated in 1977 and have worked ever since. I also went back to school and got my BS. So you can see, there are several routes to nursing. You need to decide which one fits you best.

    Oh, and about the squeamish tummy--I was exactly the same way. They had a saying for me on the floor:
    Take a little pan for the (vomiting) patient and take a big pan for me. I was so bad in the OR that the staff requested that i never work in there again. Nursing did not come natural to me. But eventually I got better. I've only fainted on the job once,:spin: But that didn't make me a bad nurse. I got over myself and carried on. I have never seen brain surgery, never seen them crack a chest, never seen a broken bone sticking out of the skin. It depends a lot on your line of work. I'm NOT cut out for ER or adult ICU/CCU, and definitely not the OR. Good luck.


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