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male nursing in the UK

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by bmansf1 bmansf1 (New) New

i know that male nursing is becoming more and more acceptable in the US ... how is it treated in the UK? ... are there any stigmas associated with being one over there?...i was thinking of possibly working over there after i graduate

Thanet

Specializes in Mental Health. Has 30+ years experience.

As far as I am aware there is no problems here. Nor have there been for years. (OK, so I am a Psychiatric nurse)

The only problem I have is when some LOOKS at me and says 'Oh , so you are a 'MALE' nurse?'... I usually say 'No, I am female nurse, but it is my day off'

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 33 years experience.

Have never seen any problems and have worked with many male nurses

english_nurse

Specializes in renal,peritoneal dialysis, medicine.

do you think its true that male nurses tend to get promoted more quickly than their female counterparts?? someone expressed this to me once and i was wondering what you all thought....

cheshirecat

Specializes in midwifery, gen surgical, community.

Maybe they get promoted because they do not have to worry about taking time off to have children etc.

Also, even though we are all supposed to be equal, it is mainly still the women who take time off for kids stuff, ie. doctors appointments etc and all the hassles of daily life.

I am probably going to be blasted for this too, but it is mainly the good old women who does most of the housework, childcare etc, and maybe we are more exhausted then our male counterparts, and they can devote more time to their career?

Also, men still feel (even in the 21st century) that they have to be the major breadwinner, so they may want to get ahead due to financial reasons.

I would love to know what other people think.

Maybe they get promoted because they do not have to worry about taking time off to have children etc.

Also, even though we are all supposed to be equal, it is mainly still the women who take time off for kids stuff, ie. doctors appointments etc and all the hassles of daily life.

I am probably going to be blasted for this too, but it is mainly the good old women who does most of the housework, childcare etc, and maybe we are more exhausted then our male counterparts, and they can devote more time to their career?

Also, men still feel (even in the 21st century) that they have to be the major breadwinner, so they may want to get ahead due to financial reasons.

I would love to know what other people think.

i agree i think men are more likely promoted because their employers know they will never have to take time off because they are pregnant or they are less likely to take off to take care of the kids

scattycarrot, BSN, RN

Specializes in ITU/Emergency. Has 10 years experience.

i agree i think men are more likely promoted because their employers know they will never have to take time off because they are pregnant or they are less likely to take off to take care of the kids

I actually disagree with you. In my experience, alot of the most knowledgable nurses I have worked with have been male and I have often wondered why this is and am yet to come up with a sound theory. I don't know if its because men are more left-brained and therefore more logical than women and tend to want to know the whys and hows of medicine, whereas women are more creative and nuturing and are more interested in the 'caring' side of the nursing profession. The male nurses I have worked with seem to be more ambitious and perhaps it is because they are unrestricted by child care,etc.. but even with female nurses who haven't yet had children or plan to have children, that same drive isn't often there. The male nurses who are in senior postitions that I have worked with have deserved their promotions and have defintely not been promoted just because they can't have children. Now, before any fellow females get upset, I am talking generally here and am not tarring all females or males with the same brush!

english_nurse

Specializes in renal,peritoneal dialysis, medicine.

someone expressed the opinion to me at work one day that men get promoted more quickly in the nursing profession because they are a minority, being unusual this brings attention to them in interviews, ward enviornment etc, would anyone here agree with this as a reason?

I'm not a male Nurse. I'm a Nurse WITH a penis :)

I happen to be married to a nurse and yes he is a man-he is not a male nurse as he looks after females as well- the words male nurse are sexist my husband is a nurse as for getting promoted more quickly I would say he is more career focused than some of my female co-workers but he has been a nurse for 22yrs and is educated up to masters so I would expect him to be a leader - he is surrounded by female leaders so I think it is more to do with the person than the gender.

Maybe they get promoted because they do not have to worry about taking time off to have children etc.

Also, even though we are all supposed to be equal, it is mainly still the women who take time off for kids stuff, ie. doctors appointments etc and all the hassles of daily life.

I am probably going to be blasted for this too, but it is mainly the good old women who does most of the housework, childcare etc, and maybe we are more exhausted then our male counterparts, and they can devote more time to their career?

Also, men still feel (even in the 21st century) that they have to be the major breadwinner, so they may want to get ahead due to financial reasons.

I would love to know what other people think.

OMG - We will be thinking that women can leave the kitchen sink and become Doctors next! LOL:lol2:

english_nurse

Specializes in renal,peritoneal dialysis, medicine.

pmsl :lol2:

cheshirecat

Specializes in midwifery, gen surgical, community.

Or even become Prime Minister!!! Oh no, we tried that one and see where it got us.

madwife2002, BSN, RN

Specializes in RN, BSN, CHDN. Has 26 years experience.

someone expressed the opinion to me at work one day that men get promoted more quickly in the nursing profession because they are a minority, being unusual this brings attention to them in interviews, ward enviornment etc, would anyone here agree with this as a reason?

I would tend to aggree with this. I wouldnt aggree that men are more focused than women I have worked with some very ambitious women

I reckon it is about even if you compare the ambitious men with the ambitious women in nursing.

Howerver I think though that men choose where they work more carefully ICU, ER, CCU you dont find many men slaving away on a medical ward or care of the elderly.

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 33 years experience.

have to agree with a few posts on here, men tend to specialise more and do seem more motivated than women.

Saying that.... now I have escaped from the sink, have a dishwasher, where can I point my career arrow :) :lol2:

english_nurse

Specializes in renal,peritoneal dialysis, medicine.

i have a dishwasher too... his name is mark and hes cheap on the electric hahahahahaha

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 33 years experience.

i have a dishwasher too... his name is mark and hes cheap on the electric hahahahahaha

lol :lol2:

Howerver I think though that men choose where they work more carefully ICU, ER, CCU you dont find many men slaving away on a medical ward or care of the elderly.

Hello again

It's the technical and masculine aspects of ICU/ER that men firmly feel comfortable with (and they have been male bastions for years, haven't they?). I will stick my neck out and say that a lot of men like the opportunity to work more on a one to one basis with clients/patients (does that, and the masculine historical role of the MH nurse explain the large amount of men in Mental Health nursing?) and, through this and perhaps more controversially, they avoid having to work closely with women as direct supervisors. This may also be the case in OR where we can hide behind masks and poke faces and mouth swear words at all the women that are our bosses and are nasty - been there - but males can still work fairly independently there plus they are working predominently with other males in the shape and form of surgeons, anaesthetists and ODPs.

As someone who has slaved on more than one medical ward over the years, I have met more men (careful how I phrase that!) that work in ER/ICU/OR/MH than on a medical/surgical wards and slightly less that work in CCU. Is CCU perceived as less masculine?

BTW, males get promoted more because we have bigger brains and are natural leaders or it could be because we get noticed more as a minority group if we perform well? I await your comments :devil:

Cheers

OG.

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