I have not been in this profession for long but then i can see that we have made it women's profession and then is not helping that much ,especially in my country and other few countries.
The male figure in this profession would be awesome because of their inherent natural ability in handling physical situation ranging from carrying of patients in the carriers, wheeling them into the hospitals and wards,helping in shifting them on bed when they are immobile and other activities that are tedious.
I appeal to our men to come join us and make the health sector and the nursing profession sweeter.lets make it a profession for all that is my take amongst other things they can do for us..
Uhm... Right. That's cute. Meanwhile, on planet Earth...
A patient who's uncomfortable with the person providing the care isn't likely to accept it. Or, if they do accept it, it will be because they would have been made to feel like they don't have a choice. This may increase their level of stress and anxiety, their frustration and, just maybe, could make them lash out in anger. At the very least make them suspicious and distrustful. Over the lack of empathy, and respect for their concerns from the nurse caring for them. This also applies to other specialties; I am not specifically addressing "nurse" here but CNA, PCT, etc.
On the other hand, if a patient feels more comfortable receiving care from a specific gender - and that is actually granted - you end up with a calmer patient, who's likely to listen and trust you.
Denying embarrassment doesn't make it go away. So why insist it doesn't matter?
Dany
Dany, I couldn't help noticing how you have no real answer to the logical fallacy I pointed regarding men in nursing and their unicorn status you proposed. I'm assuming that by refusing to address it you are admiting it was nonsense yes?
Women as it is don't get paid as much as men, and men rise through the ranks of nursing faster and now they get GRANTS?
Please.
Women have taken care of all patients, male and female, for years. Well. If men want to join the ranks, more power to them.
I thought OP's post was derogatory to both men and women. Men and women both, if they are smart and professional individuals, can be wonderful nurses.
The last thing men need are grants to one up women in nursing.
I'm starting to get a bit hot over this, so imma go make my male and female Nurse co-workers some sandwiches now.
Any action geared toward increasing the number of men in nursing (and other related fields) is desirable. The reality is that nursing is predominantly staffed by women. You might be perfectly fine by this, others are not. If the intended result is better care, then a more holistic approach has to be considered.
Don't get me wrong, I am not implying that men (or women) are better at nursing. Again, gender has not bearing on quality of care. What does matter however, is whether or not your patient will accept you caring for them.
Any action geared toward increasing the number of men in nursing (and other related fields) is desirable. The reality is that nursing is predominantly staffed by women. You might be perfectly fine by this, others are not. If the intended result is better care, then a more holistic approach has to be considered.
Don't get me wrong, I am not implying that men (or women) are better at nursing. Again, gender has not bearing on quality of care. What does matter however, is whether or not your patient will accept you caring for them.
Dany
You seriously cannot be that surprised that women don't want to make less than a man simply because we don't have a member. That's outrageous.
Men who happen to be dads can go talk to their kids' classes about what it's like being a nurse. Advertisements could portray more men in nursing. The problem is that, for a while, part of society looked down on men who wanted to go into nursing. This attitude is changing, and that's what should be bringing in diversity.
You can't just throw your morals in the trash to get the outcome you want.
Any action geared toward increasing the number of men in nursing (and other related fields) is desirable. The reality is that nursing is predominantly staffed by women. You might be perfectly fine by this, others are not. If the intended result is better care, then a more holistic approach has to be considered.
Don't get me wrong, I am not implying that men (or women) are better at nursing. Again, gender has not bearing on quality of care. What does matter however, is whether or not your patient will accept you caring for them.
Dany, I couldn't help noticing how you have no real answer to the logical fallacy I pointed regarding men in nursing and their unicorn status you proposed. I'm assuming that by refusing to address it you are admiting it was nonsense yes?
AlphaM,
I'll be honest and admit that you lost me. I think I understand what you are trying to say but I really am not sure. I do not believe men in nursing have unicorn status but I do think there aren't enough of them.
You seriously cannot be that surprised that women don't want to make less than a man simply because we don't have a member. That's outrageous.
Men who happen to be dads can go talk to their kids' classes about what it's like being a nurse. Advertisements could portray more men in nursing. The problem is that, for a while, part of society looked down on men who wanted to go into nursing. This attitude is changing, and that's what should be bringing in diversity.
You can't just throw your morals in the trash to get the outcome you want.
Hello Purple_roses,
It is outrageous and I never suggested it's the way things should be. Hey, for equal skills, I believe there should be equal pay. I do not believe men aught to be pay more than women. But how do you make this profession more appealing to men?
You propose some very interesting solutions. Those are all good ideas.
And that is truly wonderful. But have you considered that there might be other factors at play? Are you convinced that they accepted you because they felt you were the best nurse to care for them? Or could it be that they didn't think they had a choice and they never thought to ask? Some people aren't comfortable even bringing their discomfort up, for fear of being judged. Or treated differently.
Also, an interesting aside is, what if they do bring it up? How is that addressed? That can come into play as well. I have no doubt you have enough experience in the field to know what I am talking about.
And that is truly wonderful. But have you considered that there might be other factors at play? Are you convinced that they accepted you because they felt you were the best nurse to care for them? Or could it be that they didn't think they had a choice and they never thought to ask? Some people aren't comfortable even bringing their discomfort up, for fear of being judged. Or treated differently.
Also, an interesting aside is, what if they do bring it up? How is that addressed? That can come into play as well. I have no doubt you have enough experience in the field to know what I am talking about.
It is outrageous and I never suggested it's the way things should be. Hey, for equal skills, I believe there should be equal pay. I do not believe men aught to be pay more than women. But how do you make this profession more appealing to men?
You propose some very interesting solutions. Those are all good ideas.
Dany
Dany, some of what Purple_roses has described has been already happening over the years, at least in the Northeast. For example, my husband's thesis was actually "Men in Nursing," and that was almost 15 years ago. Progress takes time (the fact that his paper has been referenced hundreds of times is a more-than-promising thing as it demonstrates that other students are delving into this topic).
And he did speak to my son's preschool class [emoji4].
But that's the thing, it takes time. Not sign-on bonuses and grants to those just because they have a member. That's beyond infuriating.
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emtpbill, ASN, RN, EMT-P
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I've heard about that elusive animal. Aren't they called Murses?