LPN's just glorified nurse aids in LTC? Huh?

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I recently had a couple of nurses tell me that LPN's are just basically glorified aids in LTC settings.

I though that LPN's did mostly the same work as RN's in the LTC setting.

I know that everyone needs to be a team and pitch in and get whatever needs to be done, done. But LPN's as glorified aids? Why go to LPN school then?

What are typical LPN duties in a LTC setting?

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Spare me...they "find ways to get credit for all of your previous accumulated profession experience???" ...right...lots of non nursing experience? The LPN programs in this state are 11 months...not long enough...

It's amazing what can be learned when time is taken to research the facts.

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Specializes in LTC, Hospice, Case Management.

Once again, I would like to state, it is all what you want to make of yourself. I have completed both LPN and RN education. Do I see a HUGE difference in the training of the two - NO. The RN just expanded my education (learned all about Ethics, and some other BS classes - whoppee!). Did it make me a better nurse? - NO. I was a good nurse as an LPN and I'm a good nurse as an ASN RN - someday will be a good BSN RN hopefully (got learn how to write papers better :scrying: ). Amen to each and every one of you that get up each day and go take care of our elderly population with a smile on your face and the attitude to take care of them to the best of your ability. There has got to be a special place in heaven for all of us someday.

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Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
3 month LPN program....

Still haven't found this yet..............:rolleyes:

Can we please have a link to this 3 month program? Thank you.

LOOK BELOW...I found this link on the 2nd page of this thread....there's one for RN's too.

Licensed Practical Nurse

No Classes - Accredited Graduate in 3-12 months

Go to the different threads and at the bottom you will see different links. On the bottom of the Meds in Assisted Living thread, there are links to assisted livings. On the bottom of the CMS guidelines for pressure ulcer thread, there are links for wound care products and wound care certification.....jeez, I don't make this stuff up.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
LOOK BELOW...I found this link on the 2nd page of this thread....there's one for RN's too.

Licensed Practical Nurse

No Classes - Accredited Graduate in 3-12 months

Go to the different threads and at the bottom you will see different links. On the bottom of the Meds in Assisted Living thread, there are links to assisted livings. On the bottom of the CMS guidelines for pressure ulcer thread, there are links for wound care products and wound care certification.....jeez, I don't make this stuff up.

I don't have links at the bottom of my pages, haven't for several weeks.

I used to look at them, though, when i did. NEVER saw one for a 3 month LPN program.

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Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

This has become another tug -of- war debate over who is better the RN or LVN, who can run circles around who, who is responsible for who's actions.... blah blah... And in the past I have been a major coal to the fire. We can argue until the end of the world and there will always be someone somewhere that thinks the LPN/VN has a more important job in the nursing home and has no purpose in the hospital. When I work the floor with other nurses; I am in charge unless there is an RN. It is my pleasure to turn that responsibility over to the RN... Have at it honey....After saying that, it really dont matter about that because I am in charge of the building on the weekends. So the RN will come get me for the major issues regarding staffing, patients or families. I rarley intervene unless the need calls for it, most of the time the situation is cleared before I arrive on the unit. Even when I get there the RN or LVN is handling the problem and I just sit and listen ,intervene when I have to and try to let the nurses resolve there own floor issues. now for thoses of you saying "how can you be in charge and be a LVN, well my boss is of course a RN and she is a phone call away . They let me run around and problem solve ,pass meds on whatever floor , be the nurse ,staff the buiding ,do orientation or whatever my boss tells me too. I am there so she does not have to be. But once again the nurse has to handle more BS on the floor than I do in the building, so I am grateful to work with an RN. I just run about and pass pills or do treatments . The original poster made the comment that LVN?PN are glorified CNA's, well I do that job to. If a CNA calls in and I can't replace that person , I hit the floor. So yea I guess I am in a way, I am not ashamed of it either. As long as I have a job and make my current wage , Ill scrub the floor with a toothbrush... I have 5 kids to feed.

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In the LTC facility where I work, LPNs pass meds, do treatments, documentation and act as charge nurses. The manager of the subacute/rehab unit is an LPN also. The rest of the management team consists of RNs. I would guess that we have 1/3 RNs & 2/3 LPNs who work as floor nurses. The LPNs are never required to pick up a CNA assignment.

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Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

Go down to the bottom it is a small blue print that provides a link to where-ever. Nonsense I would imagine. It is all distance learning but 3 months... no way....

I don't have links at the bottom of my pages, haven't for several weeks.

I used to look at them, though, when i did. NEVER saw one for a 3 month LPN program.

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Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.
I don't have links at the bottom of my pages, haven't for several weeks.

I used to look at them, though, when i did. NEVER saw one for a 3 month LPN program.

Guess y'all didn't look hard enough. It was there today.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Guess y'all didn't look hard enough. It was there today.

I 'looked hard enough'. Like i already said, there are no longer any ads at the bottom of my pages.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Go down to the bottom it is a small blue print that provides a link to where-ever. Nonsense I would imagine. It is all distance learning but 3 months... no way....

The only print that's there on the page i get is the links to the allnurses pages, none for any ads.

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Guess y'all didn't look hard enough. It was there today.

I don't have those links either, so I guess Marie and I need a good optomitrist, right?

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
I don't have those links either, so I guess Marie and I need a good optomitrist, right?

No, we just aren't looking hard enough. :rolleyes:

I think it has to do with the computer settings, which is fine, since the ads were taking a long time to load when there were tons of them.

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