LPN Supervisor Position

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Specializes in SNF-LTC; Gero-psych.

Im not sure if this was the right place or not, but I wanted to rant a little bit.

I have been an LPN for 2.5 years and working at the same LTC since licensure. We have a pretty bad turn around on supervisors, ADON's and DON's.. not sure why though?

We are now on the 4th DON and ADON.. and we have had 4 or 5 Supervisors.. Just since I have been there.

Well, our new DON seems to be doing the best, she actually has 5 years prior experience and knows her stuff. She asked me to come off of night shift and take the Skilled Supervisor position (normally RN's take this position).. I have been workin nights for over 2 years now and my wife and I share the same nights on different halls. It works out good for us...

ANYWAY, The DON asked me once, I told her I didn't really want to do it. Then she asked me a second time I told her I liked working my nights.. (She also knows I have Managment Experience) Most of the other LPN's and CNA's come to me with their problems anyway (they treat me as a NOC shift supervisor). I actually had one ask if I was, once... Any who, about a week after that the ADON (previously skilled supervisor) asked if I would take that position.. I asked her, "good night are you all trying to get rid of me, I know how bad the turn around is in that position." She said "no we have agreed, DON, ADON and ADM, that you would be the best for this position"... So couple days later she asks me again and I told her " as soon as you all get a qualified RN I would be back out on the floor and I would lose my perfect nights that I already have"...

This has been going on the last 2-3 weeks since I got back from vacation.

Now lets come up to this week, I went in yesterday to pick up my check and the ADON said jokingly " I can't believe you didn't come to managment and work days with us". I said aghh you all filled that position anyway.. They hired an RN-C with lots of experience.

Now lets get even further up the time line.. Today, this morning actually at around 5 AM while doing my morning med pass, the MDS-RN came in and said "hey are you not going to take the Supervisor position, I said no they already filled it anyway.." She said" what about supervising the other hall (ICF)?" I said "I can't because my wife works over there and that is nepotism" She said what if we put her over there and put you over here (SNF) side.. I said I just dont know.. I gotta get back to my med pass..

Sorry bout the long story..

What is your positions on this? Do you think they really want me in that position or do you think they are trying to give me the axe?

Let me add this.. I talked to my DON, and told her I had her as a reference for another facility... And she said "oh no, were not gonna let you leave us we need you here" So I told her "Im not leaving I have to make more money, and I need a second job to do that" She then told me not to make any big decisions to let her work on it for a couple of days and she would see what she could do... Now I don't know if this is what she was talking about, but my wife went in for her yearly e-val and got a 4% raise, the norm is 3% there.. It was $0.64 more per hour.. What do you all think?

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

Maybe it's just me, but when people keep bugging me to do something, I automatically get suspicious. I don't think they plan to fire you, but they know you are looking at other options and could be trying to reel you in.

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Sounds to me like you are a valued employee and they are trying to keep you. Knowing you have management background they may have felt you would have been an asset in that position. JMHO. Of course, it would be an asset for them, but there may have been more perks with the position, but, then again, probably more headaches also. Too, it really blows their minds when someone on nights is offered a day position and turns it down, it's hard for some to beleive that some of us really do prefer nights to days.

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Specializes in behavioral health.

It sounds to me like they don't want to lose you. Too bad that you could not do the job during midnight hours. It is nice that you and your wife both work the same shift. I used to work afts., and my husband was dayturn. I was sleeping when he went to work, and he was sleeping when I came home. But, our weekends off were the same.

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

I do believe it shocks the powers that be when they believe they are offering you the position of your dreams; a bit of authority, reasonable hours, holidays and weekends off (at least I hope it would be for you) and are still being turned down. Boggles their brains. You do what is best for you. But I am suspicious; most times, high turnover positions are for a reason. And, there is usually no turning back once you accept the position. Think it through thoroughly, speak about it to your wife and decide from there. Best wishes to you no matter what decision you make!

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It sounds to me like they don't want to lose you. Too bad that you could not do the job during midnight hours. It is nice that you and your wife both work the same shift. I used to work afts., and my husband was dayturn. I was sleeping when he went to work, and he was sleeping when I came home. But, our weekends off were the same.

Yeah...sounds like they really like you and are trying to get the management staff in order.

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Specializes in Peri-op/Sub-Acute ANP.

Can you repeat after me? SET UP!

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Specializes in LTC/SNF, Psychiatric, Pharmaceutical.
Im not sure if this was the right place or not, but I wanted to rant a little bit.

I have been an LPN for 2.5 years and working at the same LTC since licensure. We have a pretty bad turn around on supervisors, ADON's and DON's.. not sure why though?

We are now on the 4th DON and ADON.. and we have had 4 or 5 Supervisors.. Just since I have been there.

Well, our new DON seems to be doing the best, she actually has 5 years prior experience and knows her stuff. She asked me to come off of night shift and take the Skilled Supervisor position (normally RN's take this position).. I have been workin nights for over 2 years now and my wife and I share the same nights on different halls. It works out good for us...

ANYWAY, The DON asked me once, I told her I didn't really want to do it. Then she asked me a second time I told her I liked working my nights.. (She also knows I have Managment Experience) Most of the other LPN's and CNA's come to me with their problems anyway (they treat me as a NOC shift supervisor). I actually had one ask if I was, once... Any who, about a week after that the ADON (previously skilled supervisor) asked if I would take that position.. I asked her, "good night are you all trying to get rid of me, I know how bad the turn around is in that position." She said "no we have agreed, DON, ADON and ADM, that you would be the best for this position"... So couple days later she asks me again and I told her " as soon as you all get a qualified RN I would be back out on the floor and I would lose my perfect nights that I already have"...

This has been going on the last 2-3 weeks since I got back from vacation.

Now lets come up to this week, I went in yesterday to pick up my check and the ADON said jokingly " I can't believe you didn't come to managment and work days with us". I said aghh you all filled that position anyway.. They hired an RN-C with lots of experience.

Now lets get even further up the time line.. Today, this morning actually at around 5 AM while doing my morning med pass, the MDS-RN came in and said "hey are you not going to take the Supervisor position, I said no they already filled it anyway.." She said" what about supervising the other hall (ICF)?" I said "I can't because my wife works over there and that is nepotism" She said what if we put her over there and put you over here (SNF) side.. I said I just dont know.. I gotta get back to my med pass..

Sorry bout the long story..

What is your positions on this? Do you think they really want me in that position or do you think they are trying to give me the axe?

Let me add this.. I talked to my DON, and told her I had her as a reference for another facility... And she said "oh no, were not gonna let you leave us we need you here" So I told her "Im not leaving I have to make more money, and I need a second job to do that" She then told me not to make any big decisions to let her work on it for a couple of days and she would see what she could do... Now I don't know if this is what she was talking about, but my wife went in for her yearly e-val and got a 4% raise, the norm is 3% there.. It was $0.64 more per hour.. What do you all think?

It does sound like they were trying as much as they could to sweeten the deal for this supervisory position, and they wanted an insider for it. They also don't want to let you go to another facility, on the risk that the other facility could offer you a good enough deal to work exclusively for them.

That said, I've never worked in a LTC that didn't have a lot of turnover in administration. In my first LTC job, which I was in for 6 months, we went through 3 ADONs and 2 DONs! There is usually a lot of stress involved with those jobs, and possibly some fundamental problems with the way NH's are run involved.

When a place or a position has a lot of turnover, there is usually a very good reason why. Go with your gut.

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Specializes in SNF-LTC; Gero-psych.
Can you repeat after me? SET UP!

That is what my wife thinks.

Thank all of you for your opinions, I think I will chill on Nights and let it ride...

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Specializes in Peri-op/Sub-Acute ANP.
That is what my wife thinks.

Thank all of you for your opinions, I think I will chill on Nights and let it ride...

Well, listen to her. She if obviously a very intelligent woman:chuckle

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Specializes in ED, ICU, PSYCH, PP, CEN.

Don't take the promotion. If you like where you are and what you do now don't change it.

Being a manager can be a very thankless job and you might be surprised at what you have to give up scruples wise.

If that many people have been through the job don't take it, something is seriously wrong with it.

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