Lpn & asn are are being phased out.

westieluv · May 13, 2016

I also live in the Midwest and ASN and LPN programs are going strong where I live. "Just" being an ASN isn't such a dumb idea either, if you think about it. You graduate, pass the exact same NCLEX that BSNs take, start working as an RN, and then let your employer pay part of your tuition while you take an online RN to BSN program which is still less expensive than a four year university who can charge any amount they want to for tuition because they are being funded by the government through student loans. I think that option sounds pretty smart, actually.

Also, some of the best nurses that I have ever known (I am neithe one, BTW) were LPNs and ASNs. Experience counts for much of a nurse's overall education and development of clinical skills.

springchick1, ADN, RN · May 14, 2016

I'm "just" an ASN and I have no student loans at all. BSNs make the same as ASN nurses in my city.

sallyrnrrt, ADN, RN · May 14, 2016

This topic, is literally over four decades old.....not meaning to be rude, but this June, I will have been a RN, for 44 years....

depends on market demographics

summerly · May 14, 2016

Most hospitals require a BSN degree upon hire now. Especially magnet hospitals. It's becoming a baseline necessity for RN's. Would be smart to acquire one. I started out with my ADN then did ADN to BSN. Now doing BSN to MSN.

roser13, ASN, RN · May 14, 2016

Most hospitals require a BSN degree upon hire now. Especially magnet hospitals. It's becoming a baseline necessity for RN's. Would be smart to acquire one. I started out with my ADN then did ADN to BSN. Now doing BSN to MSN.

Not so in my Midwest region. No difference in salary between the two. Definitely no preference shown.

CanadianRN16 · May 14, 2016

I'm more surprised ASNs haven't been phased out already in the US...it doesn't make sense to get the same entry position/ pay for less education. The increasing complexity/ needs of health care naturally phases out certain education/ roles and increases others. In 20+ years I'm sure nursing students will have different standards.

As for the cost of education, that's a whole other issue and I feel should be addressed nationally. It's gradually becoming a class issue, where the middle classique is phases out and input the children of wealthy parents can afford university. No one should have to go into crippling debt to be able to get a post secondary degree.

CountryMomma, ASN, RN · May 14, 2016

I'm more surprised ASNs haven't been phased out already in the US...it doesn't make sense to get the same entry position/ pay for less education. The increasing complexity/ needs of health care naturally phases out certain education/ roles and increases others. In 20+ years I'm sure nursing students will have different standards.

What exactly do you think ASN/ADN nurses are incapable of caring for based solely on our education?

summerly · May 14, 2016

Not so in my Midwest region. No difference in salary between the two. Definitely no preference shown.

I live in the Midwest as well, and it has here. Chicagoland area.

shermainenevels · May 14, 2016

Phasing out lpn's has been around for 40 years but not hospital only wanting BSN's

This topic, is literally over four decades old.....not meaning to be rude, but this June, I will have been a RN, for 44 years....
depends on market demographics

shermainenevels · May 14, 2016

I agree and they are getting phased out.

I'm more surprised ASNs haven't been phased out already in the US...it doesn't make sense to get the same entry position/ pay for less education. The increasing complexity/ needs of health care naturally phases out certain education/ roles and increases others. In 20+ years I'm sure nursing students will have different standards.
As for the cost of education, that's a whole other issue and I feel should be addressed nationally. It's gradually becoming a class issue, where the middle classique is phases out and input the children of wealthy parents can afford university. No one should have to go into crippling debt to be able to get a post secondary degree.

summerly · May 14, 2016

Look up any hospital application in Chicago and check out the requirements... I'm not lying jeez. They literally state that they want BSN prepared nurses. This is a new requirement that magnet hospitals want. It has changed over the last few years.