Level to teach RN's

hoolahan, ASN, RN · Apr 11, 2002

Same in NJ. Supposedly, there is also going to be a severe shortage of instructors for nursing school as well. Too bad they won't consider "lowering" the standard to us experienced BSN's, at least for the ADN programs, like it used to be. A friend of mine applied for a lab monitor position in a large Philadelphia University, they offered her a salary equivalent to $9/hr!!! What an insult! I would love to teach nursing school, but I won't go back to school, at a cost of thousands, only to take that kind of cut in pay!! That is ridiculous!

ceecel.dee, MSN, RN · May 24, 2002

You can have a BSN here only if you are working on your masters at some schools.

schrandt · Jul 25, 2002

At most locations in Iowa and surrounding states a BSN is required to teach an ADN program, and most need to see a demonstration towards the masters.

mark_LD_RN · Jul 26, 2002

bsn can teach adn and lpn courses and clinical and if they have 2 or more yrs experience they can teach bsn clinicals only. msn required to teach bsn theory, phd required to teach msn

live4today, RN · Jul 26, 2002

Originally posted by zumalong
What level of education does your area/state/province require a nurse to have to teach at the RN level?? Here it is Masters for ADN, Doctorate for MSN.

Same as in your state at the time I went to college back in Ohio in the eighties. :)

live4today, RN · Jul 26, 2002

Originally posted by mark_LD_RN
bsn can teach adn and lpn courses and clinical and if they have 2 or more yrs experience they can teach bsn clinicals only. msn required to teach bsn theory, phd required to teach msn

Wow Mark.....your state of MS is extremely generous on the educational levels of who can teach ADNs. I can see a BSN teaching at a LPN school, but NOT at ADN/AAS colleges as there isn't enough educational variance - IMHPO - to warrant that.

My college required Master Degreed Nurses MINIMUM To teach and do clinicals for the AAS/ADN students....that's the way it should be everywhere, but I realize some states are structured differently based on the need for healthcare staff in their state. :)

Wannabevenus · Jul 27, 2002

I'm a BSN who teaches clinicals for an ADN program. I have 12 years of varied experience, mostly ICU but M/S and Float Pool as well. We have a small number of LPN to RN students, and the traditional ADN students.

Believe me, experience counts. My LPN students are a valuable asset when I have a group who aren't so experienced. But as a BSN, I feel no intimidation teaching clinicals to ADN students. And although I plan to get a Master's someday, I can't see how it would enhance teaching clinicals any more than hard work experience does.

globalRN · Sep 14, 2002

If we are talking about clinical practicum experience: I'd take the BSN with a lot of experience as a minimal requirement for BSN clinical supervision. In clinicals, the experience is as key as the letters after one's name.

I've seen too many masters degree and Phd holders who have outdated clinical skills. I'm glad the trend is now for faculty to have the letters after their name AND current clinical practice/skills. Of course, the fact that schools can't compete with institutions/private practice for wages is another issue.

My friend doing her PhD at the University of Colorado told me that most assistant professors of nursing make about 35,000 USD/annum.

2banurse · Nov 26, 2002

I know that in FLA you need to have a master's to teach any college class (at the community college level). So I guess I'll be in school for quite some time.

BRobison · Dec 18, 2002

For any:

Does the "master's" have to be an MSN? What about a BSN with a master's in education?

Just curious

healingtouchRN · Jun 2, 2003

A local university offered me $17/hr to teach critical care with a BSN & national certification. The schools are really suffering financially (except where football is concerned!)....