Mar 16, 201016 yr HiWondering what time is your largest medication pass daily? On my unit it is at 6AM breakfast is at 8AM. Many pts average 6-10meds at that time.
Mar 16, 201016 yr I have done PRN work for state correctional facilities, one day I counted one "patient's" med load and he takes on average about 16 different medications TID......nuts!
Mar 16, 201016 yr Author I don't think this healthy for pts to take so many meds on an empty stomach.
Mar 16, 201016 yr wow, that's an early time of day to be passing so many meds. Here our daily meds are typically ordered at 0900 and 2100. Usually more a.m. meds. Certain meds are given @ 0730, such as protonix, coreg, insulins. Even with our big daily med pass @ 9 a.m. it is sometimes hard to get all your pt's meds passed on time (by 10 a.m.). The hospital where I did many student clinicals, the daily med pass was 8 a.m. I don't know how anyone could possibly get report, check vitals, and assess all their patients and give the meds by 8 a.m. That's just nuts! Another hospital I did clinicals at, their daily med pass was 10 a.m. which was more realistic.
Mar 16, 201016 yr A lot of our patients have 2000, 2100, and 2200 meds, which I'll give all at 2100 if I can (most are just separate times because of the "auto times" the computer assigns based on the dosing interval, pharmacy notes if they actually need to be given separately). This can end up being quite a few meds for some people.
Mar 16, 201016 yr having the heavy med pass at 0600 is not appropriate, at all. It has to be for day shift convenience. Only those meds needing to be on an empty stomache should be given at that time. Such as synthroid, Vit B12, and most of the anti GERD meds.....
Mar 16, 201016 yr When I worked long term care, 0800 was the worst. I had 16-20 patents with multiple meds. It took a good 2 hours to get it done. When I worked nights, 0500 was the worse on Mondays with 10 BGs, 12 supps and multiple meds. Right now in acute care, the largest is 0900 - but I only have 5 patients. They recently changed it from 8 to 9 so that report, assessents, etc can be done first.
Mar 16, 201016 yr The shift I work on the biggest one for me is the 430p medpass. I don't finish all the 430 meds until about 8. Its way over the time frame but some of the patients are on quite a few meds and I am new so I don't want to make any mistakes. Plus there are some who like their pills later on so that helps lighten the load a bit. If they have a couple of HS pills and its 6pm, I will just give it to them then especially if they go to bed early.(believe me ... some do).
Mar 16, 201016 yr The shift I work on the biggest one for me is the 430p medpass. I don't finish all the 430 meds until about 8. Its way over the time frame but some of the patients are on quite a few meds and I am new so I don't want to make any mistakes. Plus there are some who like their pills later on so that helps lighten the load a bit. If they have a couple of HS pills and its 6pm, I will just give it to them then especially if they go to bed early.(believe me ... some do). if it actually says HS, you may get away with this....if it lists what your P+P says is HS, such as 9PM than you can get in trouble for this....if persons prefer and are competent to request meds be given in a way different that listed--and there are no contraindications--request the doctors change the times to reflect reality..
Mar 16, 201016 yr Whiners!! At my old hospital on the renal floor there was a patient with a 30 pill am med pass and a 20 pill pm med pass, in addtional to the 5 other patients we had!!
Mar 16, 201016 yr if it actually says HS, you may get away with this....if it lists what your P+P says is HS, such as 9PM than you can get in trouble for this....if persons prefer and are competent to request meds be given in a way different that listed--and there are no contraindications--request the doctors change the times to reflect reality..Unless there is a specific reason it has to be given at 9pm for hs, you can adjust the time based on nursing judgement. Some things you don't need to ask the doc about.
Mar 16, 201016 yr Unless there is a specific reason it has to be given at 9pm for hs, you can adjust the time based on nursing judgement. Some things you don't need to ask the doc about.Exactly, there are some meds that I wouldn't give early. I don't do this for every patient but like for example.. I am not going back to them just to give a colace. Theres a patient who gets a xanax at 10p. It wouldn't make sense to give it at 5 with his 4:30 pills. That is entirely too early. Same goes for blood pressure pills, coumadin or antibiotics that have scheduled times. Those I don't want to mess with so I will give them at their schedule time(or close to lol)Doing my med pass for the first time..one of the things I HATED.. was waking people up to swallow a cup full of pills. So I try to give them everything while they are awake.
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Wondering what time is your largest medication pass daily? On my unit it is at 6AM breakfast is at 8AM. Many pts average 6-10meds at that time.